Who's the next one to go?

[dozencousins]

i can see artest to either of the following denver,miami,new your or phoenix possibly even the warriors or dallas

i can see us trading brad miller to the magic for j.j. reddick,expirings and a 1st round pick

1 more possibility is we trade mikki moore to the spurs for brent barry and a 1st round pick

i think our 2nd trade will happen either today (sunday ) or monday i wont be suprised if petrie does at least 2 more trades

i also see tyrone lue getting dealt again very fast for another draft pick or the part of the phoenix suns trade exeption i think this may happen before artest or anyone else is traded to create another roster spot for another deal were we get more expirings !

let the rebuilding proccess begin in petrie we trust ...............

[deNIEd]

I'm just glad Petrie has FINALLY picked a direction.
Didn't care if it was rebuilding or winning, just we need to start heading in one direction and dedicate ourselves fully

[Ballings7]

i can see artest to either of the following denver,miami,new your or phoenix possibly even the warriors or dallas

Ron's not going to Miami with Marion there, and the Heat sucking and going for the lottery now.

New York? Nope. No Lee, No Artest. Isiah's never been willing to give Lee up. Nor is he Balkman and Robinson (just recently), who don't really make much sense for us. Given the players at the wing spots we already have.

Phoenix? They just don't have the pieces, and are a divisional foe, too. Also Phoenix places a priority on character, and Ron's character by the conensus is viewed as questionable. Would have to be a three-way deal, and those are tough to do.

Warriors lack the willing pieces and pieces they'd be willing to trade, don't fit for us.

Dallas? No. They're concentrated on the Kidd deal. So if that gets done, the main asset and deal breaker or maker for us with trading Ron to Dallas, is Devin Harris, and he would be gone to New Jersey if the deal for Kidd gets done. Thus with that, makes a deal with Dallas impossible, basically. Now, if Dallas moves on from Kidd, we would get Harris and the R1 pick. But the catch for Dallas, is Josh Howard has to move to the SG spot, and Jason Terry's minutes at SG are cut. They also of coruse have to accept what we want in return from Dallas, for the Ron Show. Does Dallas want to make all those changes? Who knows. A whole lot has to happen in order for Ron to be dealt to Dallas. Hell, even for talks to be initiated.

[deNIEd]

Can Lue, Anthony, Wright be instantly traded? for like a 2nd or pick or something?

Because if so, i can see all three of them being traded to contenders that want some more depth

[dozencousins]

ballings i think you are very wrong here though i think miami is doubtful i will agree on that one
even dallas not likely i can see them going for him if they cant work the kidd deal
the warriors could offer pietrus and some of their excemption
i did not mean the suns would go after him i was reffering the suns getting the newly acquire tyrone lue

the knicks i dont think will happen though it could i am not implying i would do it but there is a much bigger package we could offer them such as artest,k.thomas & reef for marbury if we want to just dump kenny & reef in a deal so we can knock 1 year each off those deals and use marburys salary at the end of next season for a ton more cap space to get other free agents i dont hate that deal for that reason but i am definitly not in favor of it i am on the fence about it !

as a kings fan the bottom line with me and i think most of us would agree with this statement i am tired of mediocrity i dont want us to suck but i dont want to be average or even a contender i want to have the kings be the most dominant team in the nba we should strive to accomplish being world champions consistantly as the spurs have done over the course of the last 7 years or so !

if it means we dump large contracts and suck for 1 or 2 years i will hate loosing for sure but if by doing that petrie can rebuild this team to the point of dominating the nba then i am in full support of doing this reguardless if it means trading anyone on our team to a rival etc.

kings 4 life.........................

[Smills91]

I'm just glad Petrie has FINALLY picked a direction.
Didn't care if it was rebuilding or winning, just we need to start heading in one direction and dedicate ourselves fully

That's bs, you clearly wanted a rebuild scenario.

[Bibbinator]

I hope Beno is the next one to go. I really don't like that guy. Am I the only one?

[Ballings7]

bdgking: I can't change my mind just because of what is going on and what's there, with those teams.

Things have to change with those teams relating to Ron, before I can change my mind on any of those places being applicable possibilities for Ron to be traded to.

However, Leon Powe interest me a little...

I really have come to like Leon Powe. Undersized and isn't too athletic, but really makes the most of what he has. He's a mature young player, and whenever I've seen him (several times) and from what I've heard - he just produces.

Plays on both sides of the court, too. Rebounds pretty well, and is tough. He's another one of these fun, consistent role-playing smaller big men like Lee, Haslem, Millsap, Maxiell, Craig Smith, eventually Chris Richard, and Brandon Bass emerging.

Charles Oakley-type players.

[deNIEd]

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That's bs, you clearly wanted a rebuild scenario.

And you would know right?

King's were doing neither, if you are going to contend screw any sort of future, and trade EVERYTHING to help you win now. Meaning, Martin (possibly), Garcia, Hawes, Douby, Williams, 1st Picks. We weren't doing that.

Or if you are going to rebuild, trade Bibby, Miller, Artest(if not using him), Shareef, Moore, everyone that won't help you in 5 years.

Personally i felt rebuilding would be better, but I didn't care which one.

Look around the league, there is no inbetween..it's either competing or rebuilding.

[AILebronMelo]

This thread is to funny.....I stop reading after someone suggested they could get a number 1 Pick for Lue from the Suns LOL......You guys will not get back alot for Artest maybe a pick but you guys wont get a pick and a young player. The most you will get is expiring contracts and your choose of a young prospect or a pick.

[dozencousins]

if you think thats impossible to get you are nuts please stop reading the thread then ailebronmelo go to your own board considering the fact the suns are going for broke by getting shaq and if they go after lue then i have no doubt the kings will get the # 1 pick from phoenix thats the price division rivals have to pay when trading with its divisional foes !
your logic about getting an expiring for lue is ignorant plain ansd simple at this point why would petrie trade 1 expiring for another ?

please go back to the hole were you crawled out of !

[Ballings7]

This thread is to funny.....I stop reading after someone suggested they could get a number 1 Pick for Lue from the Suns LOL......

I think it's a decent possibility considering the Hawks pick (which the suns acquired from them in 05) is going to be a latter R1 pick, with Bibby going to Atlanta and the Hawks likely move up quite a bit in the standings. Also considering the Hawks have never had a real back-up PG for Nash. And one that can defend and would be in the rotation.

That'd be Tyronn Lue.

Also, since this stood out so much for you, who was the one that suggested it?

I also have a hard time believing you lol'ed as much as you indicated over this. It just lacks credibility, given it's just a simple thought about a deal, that does relate for both teams.

[dozencousins]

i suggested it ballings ! bdgking

i tried to respond to you about the other message but somehow it did not go through i was to lazy to rewrite it

lol

[King Baller]

I hope Beno is the next one to go. I really don't like that guy. Am I the only one?

I like Beno's game, plus he has a low $ contract this year. Lets see how his game develops if he starts the rest of the season.

As far as who to trade next, pick a veteran with a hefty contract on the team, and Petrie could trade him for the right package. Artest, Miller, Mikki, Rahim and KT all are possibilities. Draft picks, expirings and young prospects would be included in the right package coming the Kings way.

After the season Petrie can build around what ever vets are left, K Mart, Salmons, Garcia, Hawes and perhaps Beno, Justin & Sheldon Williams.

Anyhow the Kings should look a lot different next season.

KB

[Hoops23]

I think the next player the Kings will let go is Kenny Thomas then they pick Justin Williams after clearing waivers. They will waive Thomas soon. The man is hard to trade even in a package that includes Bibby.

[OGSactownballer]

I think that the Suns are more likely to bite on AJ for the pick than Lue.

[Bimbo_Coles]

I still think that Patrick O'Bryant, Pietrus, and a pick still makes the most sense. O'Bryant and Pietrus can both be considered expiring, but are young and could thrive in a different system. I would say that this beats most expirings/pick types of deals.

[Ballings7]

Aside from being an expiring, O'Bryant doesnt fit. I don't see him getting an oppurtunity, combined with having very little NBA time and oppurtunity already. It wouldn't be fair to him to keep him around, unless there is a drastic change or two.

Pietrus I wouldn't see staying around with the wings we already have. He'd be an expiring, strictly, IMO. Especially with his talk to be traded from the Warrirors, and in somehow staying, he'd be in a similar situation as with the Warriors - log-jammed.

If were getting another young big it'll be in the draft. Which is a good possibility this year.

To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised at all if Ron just stays and finishes out the season. I'd actually mostly prefer that.

I wouldn't prefer to do a deal with Denver. I'd be okay getting Najera/Kleiza/R1 pick, but that still doesn't mean I'd "want", to do it.

[Ballings7]

Kirk Hinrich, Kidd, or Antonio Daniels would be fits for the guard partner to AI. Like Eric Snow was, or in the mold of Aaron Mckie even. Big guards that defend, can make shots, have play-making ability, and hustle.

Philadelphia Inquirer -
A basketball source has informed the Philadelphia Inquirer that the Nuggets have expressed interest in Seattle's Delonte West.

West was dealt in the Ray Allen trade on draft night.

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archi ... onte_west/

And yeah, Delonte West would be another of that type of guard, and the most reaslistic. Only thing is West not as good a play-maker as those other guys. He'd really bring everything they need at PG next to Iverson, and improve their shooting.

I guess they'd give up one of R1 pick (not sure if you can just trade a pick for somebody)/Najera/Kleiza for West. Which, would partially relate to Artest dealings, talkings. Maybe even put off talks for good, depending what would be given up.

[KF10]

Cavs upgrade key to keeping James, may seek Artest

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/rumors/post ... ba%2C67286