Sacramento (32-40) @ Seattle (17-56)

[KF10]

Wow...even Lo-Wright gets playing time over Kenny Thomas!

Lo-Wright does not turn the ball over...Or missing point blank layups by 5 feet.

[KF10]

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Absolutely, its really a shame that their labeled as "boring" and "not fun" team, but thats just how people feel about them, and rightfully so, because everyone is entitled to their own opinions.

Eh, fair enough.

[KingInExile]

With this win the Kings have now equaled their win total for last year!!! With 1 more we will officially be on an upswing!

[BMiller52]

You guys act like defense is important. I thought all that was important was flashy dunks and sick spin moves to the basket.

The sick spin moves are only cool if they end with a dunk

[HeavyP]

Good game you guys! I love watching Kevin Martin play, one of my favorite in the league. It seems like he always has a huge game against the Sonics, at least both Green and KD played well though. Good luck the rest of the way!

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Lo-Wright does not turn the ball over...Or missing point blank layups by 5 feet.

i thought your Kenny Thomas fan, and by fan i mean, you do not insult him very often.

[Sac Fan in Clipper town]

As the lottery balls get fewer and fewer..

[UKF]

I guess its better that they win....

It was a good game tho. They played good D in the second half..Even tho I think it was more that the Sonics wouldnt miss in the 1st half.. There was good ball movement as well. First time in a while that I noticed that.

Kev and Ron played well, I loved that shot Kevin had when he was almost laying on the ground when he let it go. Overall it was a good game.

[UKF]

As the lottery balls get fewer and fewer..

check out who we play..

I dont expect us to stay at 12. the 3 teams we have a shot at passing are in the East and they have those last couple of playoff spots to play for, and we play against teams that are also fighting for the last playoff spots except they are in the West. I think we could end up in with the 10th pick, but I dont expect us to get anything higher than 12.

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The sick spin moves are only cool if they end with a dunk

BMiller52 = in my fave five

[KingInExile]

As the lottery balls get fewer and fewer..

Hate to break this news to you...losing games won't significantly change our standings right now. There are too many bad teams ahead of the Kings. The lowest they can go is to the 10th pick if they lose every game here on out...and that assumes all of the other teams maintain their current percentages. Face it, the Kings can't lose to win ping-pong balls so they might as well win to save pride.

[Ballings7]

This was a fun game to watch, and I think it was a good game for the team, in terms of having fun and playing well. Solid team win.

Ron/Kevin/Cisco/Brad/Moore/Salmons all played significantly in their own ways

Ron/Kevin/Cisco especially played great... what a dynamic game by Ron

Shame Spencer couldn't of been apart of things, he would of had a nice game I bet

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No. Just shooting and passing. If you can shoot and pass, that means you're a good basketball player.

Trade Hawes for Diop immediately

[pillwenney]

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Trade Hawes for Diop immediately

Yeah that's what I was saying. I wasn't saying anything about being a complete player, I was just saying that if you're only good on D, that you're a good player, and if you're only good on offense, you're not.

[BMiller52]

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i thought your Kenny Thomas fan, and by fan i mean, you do not insult him very often.

OMG... that sad thing is that's true

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Yeah that's what I was saying. I wasn't saying anything about being a complete player, I was just saying that if you're only good on D, that you're a good player, and if you're only good on offense, you're not.

Nope, that's not what you were saying, you were saying Diop = Hawes, one is good at D and one in good at O, these are equal to you, and complete you say, stupid Petrie, he shouldn\t have turned down Dunca, KG and Howard when they were offered to him.

[pillwenney]

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Nope, that's not what you were saying, you were saying Diop = Hawes, one is good at D and one in good at O, these are equal to you, and complete you say, stupid Petrie, he shouldn\t have turned down Dunca, KG and Howard when they were offered to him.

Well at this very moment, Diop>Hawes, but that's besides the point. No, I'm saying that offense and defense are equally important. Frankly, if history has shown anything, that's being generous to offense. But anyway, Hawes will be better than Diop because his offense will be much better than Diop's D (which is obviously quite good, but not all-defense material), and Spencer's D (which isn't even that bad so far) is probably already better than Diop's offense.

And no, I'm not implying that Geoff had a chance to get anybody like that. Honestly, I'd hope you'd think a little bit more highly of me than that.

What I was really referring to was an attitude that is seen at times with Geoff, but is really seen throughout the franchise--that is a preference towards offensive skills, and the assumption that if guys "try" that they can be "good enough" defensively. It shows up everywhere really--like even with the commentating. Jerry will often say that a team is "both teams are playing really well" if it's a high scoring game (in other words, if both teams' offenses are clicking and presumable, both teams are sucking defensively). This pisses me off to no end, because it's completely ignoring half of the freaking game. But that's just an example.

[Ballings7]

The Spurs really execute their offense with team ball as well as anybody in the league.

Oh yeah, one of the top offensive teams in the league in terms of flexibility and execution. They don't have any weaknesses other than FT shooting, and that ultimately has been okay.

A lot of people really overlook that the Spurs look to and do run, several times a game. Selectively breaking.

Aside from all the three point shooting, and Ginobili, Parker, Duncan trailing on the break, you have them beating Phoenix at their own game multiple times. The emergence of both Parker/Ginboili being the key to that added dimension compared to some years ago.

One of the most enjoyable teams in the league overall.

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Absolutely, its really a shame that their labeled as "boring" and "not fun" team, but thats just how people feel about them, and rightfully so, because everyone is entitled to their own opinions.

But regardless, in feeling that way directly, it's because those people just don't appreciate quality basketball, and/or don't see SA enough. The Spurs play the game the right way. They play team basketball with versatility.

Anybody who knows the game, then you recognize that in some form. Either in the way of respect, or even better in enjoyment.

If you don't on either, then you simply have a limited perspective on things, and quite possibly just think basketball is about athletic scorers and high-scoring games (in general-sense).

To end, here's a direct quote on TNT earlier this month:

Charles Barkley: I hear some of these folks, some of these reporters, talkin

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Well at this very moment, Diop>Hawes, but that's besides the point. No, I'm saying that offense and defense are equally important. Frankly, if history has shown anything, that's being generous to offense. But anyway, Hawes will be better than Diop because his offense will be much better than Diop's D (which is obviously quite good, but not all-defense material), and Spencer's D (which isn't even that bad so far) is probably already better than Diop's offense.

And no, I'm not implying that Geoff had a chance to get anybody like that. Honestly, I'd hope you'd think a little bit more highly of me than that.

What I was really referring to was an attitude that is seen at times with Geoff, but is really seen throughout the franchise--that is a preference towards offensive skills, and the assumption that if guys "try" that they can be "good enough" defensively. It shows up everywhere really--like even with the commentating. Jerry will often say that a team is "both teams are playing really well" if it's a high scoring game (in other words, if both teams' offenses are clicking and presumable, both teams are sucking defensively). This pisses me off to no end, because it's completely ignoring half of the freaking game. But that's just an example.

1. For many people the game is show and entertainment, there guys who enjoy good defense and defensive execution, but there is a reason why every general NBA fan knows Steve Nash lies on his back when out, Suns are popular and entertaining.
2. And it goes back to your example of Hawes and frustration from the attitude, great offense (Brad and Vlade's vision and passing for example) is a talent and feel that you won't get from training hard, average defense can be, you'll never make an elite interior defender or rebounder out of Miller, but when healthy, fit and motivated he can be decent, Diop on the other hand will never be anything close to decent offensively, so the sum is usually greater with Petrie type of picks, it won't let us compete, unless we get a Webber like player again, but it's better than other available options.

[KF10]

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i thought your Kenny Thomas fan, and by fan i mean, you do not insult him very often.

Yeah, unfortunately, I am. Well, hey, can I at least insult him once or twice in a year?