2024-25 General Thread

BoogieTime · Post #421 » by **BoogieTime** » Sat Mar 8, 2025 10:45 pm

I’m glad to have been wrong about Doug so far

BoogieTime · Post #422 » by **BoogieTime** » Mon Mar 10, 2025 4:41 am

Apparently there is a clip of Fox’s wife having an intense discussion with Monk after the Spurs game

Monk hasn’t been right since the trade deadline game wise…. Is he really emotionally affected to the point?

BoogieTime · Post #423 » by **BoogieTime** » Tue Mar 11, 2025 3:17 am

Why is Vlade hanging around the team.. Do other team's make it a habit of having their old bad GMs showing up all the time?

OxAndFox · Post #424 » by **OxAndFox** » Tue Mar 11, 2025 5:57 am

BoogieTime wrote:Why is Vlade hanging around the team.. Do other team's make it a habit of having their old bad GMs showing up all the time?

No, but all time great players of the franchise such as he, Brad Miller, Peja go to games fairly regularly. Damn those as%#oles for enjoying being at the games watching the Kings.

BoogieTime · Post #425 » by **BoogieTime** » Wed Mar 12, 2025 4:41 pm

Kings are 3-5 without Domas this year and definitely would have won a few of those games with him. JV is still solid starter quality, but I think anyone is getting ahead of themselves thinking Domas is tradable. It’s good to have both Domas and Jonas, not the least of which because there are no bench replacements (“Trey Lyle’s doesn’t belong in the nba”). And Domas’ impact stats this year have been very nice. JV is too old to build with IMO anyhow at turning 33 in a couple months. But it’s a 1-2 punch that hopefully lasts for years

OxAndFox · Post #426 » by **OxAndFox** » Thu Mar 13, 2025 11:42 pm

Good to see Kevin gets out of Sacramento and all of a sudden, after getting his feet under him, turns back into a 40% 3pt shooter.
Almost 14ppg on 40% from 3 since the AS break.

BoogieTime · Post #427 » by **BoogieTime** » Fri Mar 14, 2025 12:18 pm

OxAndFox wrote:Good to see Kevin gets out of Sacramento and all of a sudden, after getting his feet under him, turns back into a 40% 3pt shooter.
Almost 14ppg on 40% from 3 since the AS break.

wow, as if it wasnt his fault here. And he's been awful lately and still inconsistent and overall bad in Chicago

OxAndFox · Post #428 » by **OxAndFox** » Sat Mar 15, 2025 4:24 am

Last 3 games opponent 3pt shooting:
Knicks 22/40
Warriors 22/39
Suns 22/39

This isn't a personnel thing. It runs deeper.

OxAndFox · Post #429 » by **OxAndFox** » Sat Mar 15, 2025 5:05 am

I'm going to ask this with the current state of the team known.
Doug being coach I'm sceptical of.
I'm more concerned with him not implementing anything defensively (something he is known for).
I was thinking about the Vlade thing as GM and then now Doug as HC.

So I am of the opinion you do not hire someone that will only do that specific job for that team. So if Doug doesn't want to be an NBA head coach I think we need to pass. Then maybe that means he shouldn't be on the bench. Maybe he had his best role, as in the media.

I want to hear from you all. I am just spitballing on this ok. I haven't made my mind up on Doug yet, but we CAN NOT go into the new season saying well we need to give him time to implement things. That's a cop out.

OxAndFox · Post #430 » by **OxAndFox** » Tue Mar 18, 2025 6:29 am

At some point we're going to have to start talking about Isaiah Crawford. 50% from the FT line. It's just luck that the Kings didn't lose this game. Almost cost the Kings a chance to play in the post season.

BoogieTime · Post #431 » by **BoogieTime** » Wed Mar 19, 2025 7:16 am

Read on Twitter

Its unfortunate but he needs to be held out til the playin. Also the record shows Domas value to the team, and speaks to how well the team is doing post - trade, that despite the harder schedule and the team missing its best player for much of the stint, they are about the same record

OxAndFox · Post #432 » by **OxAndFox** » Wed Mar 19, 2025 11:20 pm

This is mainly for the off season, but after last nights Australian NBL grand final series game 4 I have made my mind up on Justin Tatum as a coach. He will be in the NBA as an assistant next season and the Kings should be trying to get him if Doug is the HC (unless Doug already has guys that he wants).
Not suggesting he is HC material right now, or maybe ever, but he is a very good operator, knows the game, has great sub patterns, keeps everyone engaged etc. This is Jayson Tatum's father for those that don't know. He won coach of the year this year.

Anyone that wants to read on here is more info.

The team he coaches, Illawara Hawks (the team LaMelo played for) were without one of their imports in Tre Kell who made the All NBL 1st Team and then early in the game they lost Sam Froling (damn achilles injury) who is an All NBL 2nd team big man and was dominating early.
They were away in Melbourne down 2-1 in a best of 5 series.
They ended up coming away with a W despite being down 2 really good players. It was actually a fun game to watch. Just brutally physical.
Now they have home court for the deciding game 5 on Sunday. Oh and no team has won on their own floor in the series so far.
I actually hate both of these teams, but its been a fun series.

OGSactownballer · Post #433 » by **OGSactownballer** » Thu Mar 20, 2025 7:55 pm

OxAndFox wrote:Last 3 games opponent 3pt shooting:
Knicks 22/40
Warriors 22/39
Suns 22/39

This isn't a personnel thing. It runs deeper.

It’s absolutely a personnel thing when you are trying to run shifting doubling zone against superior three point shooting teams with personnel that are wrong.

The effective defenders for the perimeter in this team are - Ellis, Carter, Murray and Laravia and most of the time Monk. Lyles is effective I. The post with any combo of at least three of these guys because it takes off the pressure to be a shot blocker. Same for Domas who is very good for a big as a man pressure defender, but not as a wing cover. DDR and LaVine are being covered by the zone and are a huge liability on the floor together unless they are totally rolling offensively and the other team is off shooting wise. I will say that I believe that Doug is tapping into Zach’s natural athleticism and lateral speed to help him be a better space defender. But you cannot teach effective man defense. It’s either there or it’s not.

And the wild card is Jones who has a lot of development to go but has the raw tools and great size.

Ultimately they are still needing one more true PF big to be able to handle longer lineups and a true long athletic and shooting wing. Doesn’t need to be a star and shouldn’t be. But a guy who is excellent at his role.

OxAndFox · Post #434 » by **OxAndFox** » Thu Mar 20, 2025 10:31 pm

It’s absolutely a personnel thing when you are trying to run shifting doubling zone against superior three point shooting teams with personnel that are wrong.

I should have said it's not ONLY a personnel thing. Because the effort was at 40% during those games.

I will say that I believe that Doug is tapping into Zach’s natural athleticism and lateral speed to help him be a better space defender.

Absolutely agree. He's never going to be a good man defender, but if he is engaged he can be okay on the defensive end, and coupled with the perimeter D this team has, he won't be a problem.

And the wild card is Jones who has a lot of development to go but has the raw tools and great size.

I'm not a believer. Not when there are so many players now that you can choose from to develop, or more talent right now.

Ultimately they are still needing one more true PF big to be able to handle longer lineups and a true long athletic and shooting wing. Doesn’t need to be a star and shouldn’t be. But a guy who is excellent at his role.

100%. If this team can get to the stage where the only guy you have to "hide" on D is Lavine then they're not just ok, they're looking really good. It would just depend on how good defensively the PF is.

BoogieTime · Post #435 » by **BoogieTime** » Sun Mar 23, 2025 8:45 am

The pick is top 12 protected this year....

we can easily keep this pick now that Domas is injured and we know we aren't anything but a back half playin team

lets see how smart the org is..

BoogieTime · Post #436 » by **BoogieTime** » Sun Mar 23, 2025 7:19 pm

I guess the Bulls loss wasn’t that bad… they’ve been hot, and Giddey, I wanted him in that draft

BoogieTime · Post #437 » by **BoogieTime** » Mon Mar 24, 2025 8:10 am

Domas returning to practice? I think we all know the direction on the tank the org is stupidly taking

Post #438 » by **codydaze** » Mon Mar 24, 2025 4:18 pm

BoogieTime wrote:Domas returning to practice? I think we all know the direction on the tank the org is stupidly taking

I think at this point, the tank is out of the question. There's an off chance Phoenix jumps us for the 9 and we fall to 10 but I put the chances at slim to none that both Phoenix and Dallas jump us, with or without Domas. That's a whole other reason Domas shouldn't be rushing back, just sit and be fully healthy for the play-in, these last 12 games are not going to mean much in terms of making or missing the play-in.

BoogieTime · Post #439 » by **BoogieTime** » Mon Mar 24, 2025 7:27 pm

codydaze wrote:
BoogieTime wrote:Domas returning to practice? I think we all know the direction on the tank the org is stupidly taking

I think at this point, the tank is out of the question. There's an off chance Phoenix jumps us for the 9 and we fall to 10 but I put the chances at slim to none that both Phoenix and Dallas jump us, with or without Domas. That's a whole other reason Domas shouldn't be rushing back, just sit and be fully healthy for the play-in, these last 12 games are not going to mean much in terms of making or missing the play-in.

with our remaining schedule keeping domas and Malik out would fight for it imo

BoogieTime · Post #440 » by **BoogieTime** » Mon Mar 24, 2025 7:36 pm

^^^ and keep Zach out too to deal with his issues..

they could do a lot if they attempted to, but obviously they won't... just...