Trade Idea Thread 15-16

[benchmobbin02]

If Cousins is traded how would you guys feel about getting KAT in return? He's the next in line after AD and Cuz. Having a KAT and WCS reunion in Sac wouldn't be a bad thing.

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I would love to get KAT back because if means we are replacing DMC with a legit young star with All-star potential at his potential at his position. To make the deal work financially the Wolves would have to add salary like Kevin Martin. Of course we could add lots of combos and packages of guys but that is the example that jumps out out me.

[PaKwAn]

wolves would never trade KAT even for Cuz..

[bleeds_purple]

If Cousins is traded how would you guys feel about getting KAT in return? He's the next in line after AD and Cuz. Having a KAT and WCS reunion in Sac wouldn't be a bad thing.

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I'd be down but not a chance Minnesota would do that.

Don't think they would even offer Wiggins tbh.

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[Jkam31]

My god please don't trade DMC to lebron.
Interesting that LAC want him I'd do blake for DMC

This might be a bit of a long message here but I will try and break this all down .
I found out all this info from my source almost an hour ago before eating dinner & it's my first chance I am getting to share the info so here it goes .

#1 Miami Heat have not only contacted us about R.Gay they now have contacted us about Casspi I don't know the specifics as of yet about that directly .
#2 George Karl is not completely out of the woods yet but KINGS are more likely to keep him as Coach the remainder of the season . I disagree with this & think it's a mistake .
# 3 To nobody's real shock we are in talks with many teams about most all our players one way or the other . So many different directions it's all over the map .

#4 I want to concentrate on a lot of info about Cousins :

First let me say I am a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge Cousins fan He & C-Webb are my all time Sacramento Kings favorites so alot of what I write next pains me a ton & kind of saddens me .

Two weeks ago he was Untouchable . Now he is not however it will take a massive offer for anyone to still get him to be clear .
I am going to break down possibilities as best as I can

#1 We trade him before the deadline and get a ton offered to us & I mean a ton . I don't think this is the senario that will happen I think 2 or 3 is more likely .

#2 We keep him past the deadline . The Kings play great ball and close out the season making the playoffs or at least clearly showing a constant massive improvement and we continue to keep him going into next season .

# 3 We keep him past the deadline not make the playoffs , play not respectable enough & or poorly and then he gets traded this off season sometime more likely after the NBA Draft lottery order has played out possibly trading him for the #1 over all pick + a ton more .

I will also add contrary to any reports Kings have talked with Boston & Clevland most notably as well as Clippers & Heat in regards to Cousins . That is not to say that we haven't spoken with others .
I know L.James & I. Thomas as well as Riley all want CUZ very badly .

KINGS are not happy with CUZ & GAY'S NBA IQ overall .
R.Gay fouling late in a game were he didn't have to do so which made the game more out of reach . CUZ late technical in a game were we had closed the gap & had the game within reach only for the T to cost us . These are just examples of just a couple of situations of many both players have hurt us .

The trade deadline if we deal we will be looking for Higher IQ type players , more about the team type players & defense .

At this point if KARL is truly staying Cousins might be going .
If Cousins stays Karl could still be going but not likely until after the season if so . But if so & both stayed then Kings may then fire Karl after the season and still also trade CUZ .

I might end up being wrong but I expect GAY ( gone )
I could mention others but at this point the only 1 person I would be shocked if traded is WCS at this point nobody else would be a shock to me unless the trade was an idiotic one and I don't think that will be the situation .


WCS is safe almost guaranteed , Rondo likely safe but not as safe as WCS .
I personally like Quincy's hustle as well as Collison's and hope we keep them . But that's just me

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[City of Trees]

If Cousins is traded how would you guys feel about getting KAT in return? He's the next in line after AD and Cuz. Having a KAT and WCS reunion in Sac wouldn't be a bad thing.

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I'd be down but not a chance Minnesota would do that.

Don't think they would even offer Wiggins tbh.

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Well its on the T&T board now so we'll see how this goes LOL.

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[City of Trees]

Man tough blow for Tyreke Evans, opting for knee surgery that should end his season.

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[sdballer]

My god please don't trade DMC to lebron.
Interesting that LAC want him I'd do blake for DMC

This might be a bit of a long message here but I will try and break this all down .
I found out all this info from my source almost an hour ago before eating dinner & it's my first chance I am getting to share the info so here it goes .

#1 Miami Heat have not only contacted us about R.Gay they now have contacted us about Casspi I don't know the specifics as of yet about that directly .
#2 George Karl is not completely out of the woods yet but KINGS are more likely to keep him as Coach the remainder of the season . I disagree with this & think it's a mistake .
# 3 To nobody's real shock we are in talks with many teams about most all our players one way or the other . So many different directions it's all over the map .

#4 I want to concentrate on a lot of info about Cousins :

First let me say I am a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge Cousins fan He & C-Webb are my all time Sacramento Kings favorites so alot of what I write next pains me a ton & kind of saddens me .

Two weeks ago he was Untouchable . Now he is not however it will take a massive offer for anyone to still get him to be clear .
I am going to break down possibilities as best as I can

#1 We trade him before the deadline and get a ton offered to us & I mean a ton . I don't think this is the senario that will happen I think 2 or 3 is more likely .

#2 We keep him past the deadline . The Kings play great ball and close out the season making the playoffs or at least clearly showing a constant massive improvement and we continue to keep him going into next season .

# 3 We keep him past the deadline not make the playoffs , play not respectable enough & or poorly and then he gets traded this off season sometime more likely after the NBA Draft lottery order has played out possibly trading him for the #1 over all pick + a ton more .

I will also add contrary to any reports Kings have talked with Boston & Clevland most notably as well as Clippers & Heat in regards to Cousins . That is not to say that we haven't spoken with others .
I know L.James & I. Thomas as well as Riley all want CUZ very badly .

KINGS are not happy with CUZ & GAY'S NBA IQ overall .
R.Gay fouling late in a game were he didn't have to do so which made the game more out of reach . CUZ late technical in a game were we had closed the gap & had the game within reach only for the T to cost us . These are just examples of just a couple of situations of many both players have hurt us .

The trade deadline if we deal we will be looking for Higher IQ type players , more about the team type players & defense .

At this point if KARL is truly staying Cousins might be going .
If Cousins stays Karl could still be going but not likely until after the season if so . But if so & both stayed then Kings may then fire Karl after the season and still also trade CUZ .

I might end up being wrong but I expect GAY ( gone )
I could mention others but at this point the only 1 person I would be shocked if traded is WCS at this point nobody else would be a shock to me unless the trade was an idiotic one and I don't think that will be the situation .


WCS is safe almost guaranteed , Rondo likely safe but not as safe as WCS .
I personally like Quincy's hustle as well as Collison's and hope we keep them . But that's just me

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I wouldn't worry about it. Basically these rumors suggest:

Miami might have inquired about casspi, which had already been leaked

That we may keep cuz, or trade him, or keep him than trade him later

That we may not keep Karl forever

That we've talked to a number of teams about most of our players

And that if we make a trade it would be to improve team especially on defense which had also already been discussed elswhere.

Honestly not trying to be a jerk but people in here out so much weight into every rumor this guy puts out there and for some reason it annoys me. It feels like he may have a limited source but needs attention so he "improvises" when he needs material. A lot of the info is elswhere or just a combination of conjecture you could find on any teams board. Plus he claims to have a Kings source and then shares info on the mindset of other teams like they would share their internal plans with the Kings. The fact that he freaks out and threatens to withhold info every time he perceives he's being challenged doesn't help.

But that's just my opinion. I know a lot of other people enjoy his stuff. So I'll let it go.

[dozencousins]

My god please don't trade DMC to lebron.
Interesting that LAC want him I'd do blake for DMC

This might be a bit of a long message here but I will try and break this all down .
I found out all this info from my source almost an hour ago before eating dinner & it's my first chance I am getting to share the info so here it goes .

#1 Miami Heat have not only contacted us about R.Gay they now have contacted us about Casspi I don't know the specifics as of yet about that directly .
#2 George Karl is not completely out of the woods yet but KINGS are more likely to keep him as Coach the remainder of the season . I disagree with this & think it's a mistake .
# 3 To nobody's real shock we are in talks with many teams about most all our players one way or the other . So many different directions it's all over the map .

#4 I want to concentrate on a lot of info about Cousins :

First let me say I am a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge Cousins fan He & C-Webb are my all time Sacramento Kings favorites so alot of what I write next pains me a ton & kind of saddens me .

Two weeks ago he was Untouchable . Now he is not however it will take a massive offer for anyone to still get him to be clear .
I am going to break down possibilities as best as I can

#1 We trade him before the deadline and get a ton offered to us & I mean a ton . I don't think this is the senario that will happen I think 2 or 3 is more likely .

#2 We keep him past the deadline . The Kings play great ball and close out the season making the playoffs or at least clearly showing a constant massive improvement and we continue to keep him going into next season .

# 3 We keep him past the deadline not make the playoffs , play not respectable enough & or poorly and then he gets traded this off season sometime more likely after the NBA Draft lottery order has played out possibly trading him for the #1 over all pick + a ton more .

I will also add contrary to any reports Kings have talked with Boston & Clevland most notably as well as Clippers & Heat in regards to Cousins . That is not to say that we haven't spoken with others .
I know L.James & I. Thomas as well as Riley all want CUZ very badly .

KINGS are not happy with CUZ & GAY'S NBA IQ overall .
R.Gay fouling late in a game were he didn't have to do so which made the game more out of reach . CUZ late technical in a game were we had closed the gap & had the game within reach only for the T to cost us . These are just examples of just a couple of situations of many both players have hurt us .

The trade deadline if we deal we will be looking for Higher IQ type players , more about the team type players & defense .

At this point if KARL is truly staying Cousins might be going .
If Cousins stays Karl could still be going but not likely until after the season if so . But if so & both stayed then Kings may then fire Karl after the season and still also trade CUZ .

I might end up being wrong but I expect GAY ( gone )
I could mention others but at this point the only 1 person I would be shocked if traded is WCS at this point nobody else would be a shock to me unless the trade was an idiotic one and I don't think that will be the situation .


WCS is safe almost guaranteed , Rondo likely safe but not as safe as WCS .
I personally like Quincy's hustle as well as Collison's and hope we keep them . But that's just me

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I wouldn't worry about it. Basically these rumors suggest:

Miami might have inquired about casspi, which had already been leaked

That we may keep cuz, or trade him, or keep him than trade him later

That we may not keep Karl forever

That we've talked to a number of teams about most of our players

And that if we make a trade it would be to improve team especially on defense which had also already been discussed elswhere.

Honestly not trying to be a jerk but people in here out so much weight into every rumor this guy puts out there and for some reason it annoys me. It feels like he may have a limited source but needs attention so he "improvises" when he needs material. A lot of the info is elswhere or just a combination of conjecture you could find on any teams board. Plus he claims to have a Kings source and then shares info on the mindset of other teams like they would share their internal plans with the Kings. The fact that he freaks out and threatens to withhold info every time he perceives he's being challenged doesn't help.

But that's just my opinion. I know a lot of other people enjoy his stuff. So I'll let it go.

You haven't let anything go . You have been rude yourself .
What I say is true . You are a hater and you are just here to be negative .
You don't like me or what I say ignore me or tune me out . I don't care & I don't care for any of your past replies towards me or your opinions .

[sdballer]

My god please don't trade DMC to lebron.
Interesting that LAC want him I'd do blake for DMC





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I wouldn't worry about it. Basically these rumors suggest:

Miami might have inquired about casspi, which had already been leaked

That we may keep cuz, or trade him, or keep him than trade him later

That we may not keep Karl forever

That we've talked to a number of teams about most of our players

And that if we make a trade it would be to improve team especially on defense which had also already been discussed elswhere.

Honestly not trying to be a jerk but people in here out so much weight into every rumor this guy puts out there and for some reason it annoys me. It feels like he may have a limited source but needs attention so he "improvises" when he needs material. A lot of the info is elswhere or just a combination of conjecture you could find on any teams board. Plus he claims to have a Kings source and then shares info on the mindset of other teams like they would share their internal plans with the Kings. The fact that he freaks out and threatens to withhold info every time he perceives he's being challenged doesn't help.

But that's just my opinion. I know a lot of other people enjoy his stuff. So I'll let it go.

You haven't let anything go . You have been rude yourself .
What I say is true . You are a hater and you are just here to be negative .
You don't like me or what I say ignore me or tune me out . I don't care & I don't care for any of your past replies towards me or your opinions .

Your reactions come off like a 13 year old who is taking his ball home when he doesn't like the game. It hardly sounds like someone connected with a legit pro sports front office. Unless it's a family member in which case I still think actual rumors you get make up about 10% of the stuff you post. But if the attention is that important to you, have at it man.

[City of Trees]

So Karl staying on as coach was Round 1. Looks like we should all get ready for Round 2:

@aaronbruski: @kfippin my ‘DeMarcus is the problem’ leak count is up to seven individuals that I know who would get a leak.


@aaronbruski: @kfippin all with similar coded language. #StayWoke


@aaronbruski: @kfippin the crazy one is the Sac Bee Edit Board. Either they’ll write anything or somebody with juice called that one in.

[dozencousins]

I wouldn't worry about it. Basically these rumors suggest:

Miami might have inquired about casspi, which had already been leaked

That we may keep cuz, or trade him, or keep him than trade him later

That we may not keep Karl forever

That we've talked to a number of teams about most of our players

And that if we make a trade it would be to improve team especially on defense which had also already been discussed elswhere.

Honestly not trying to be a jerk but people in here out so much weight into every rumor this guy puts out there and for some reason it annoys me. It feels like he may have a limited source but needs attention so he "improvises" when he needs material. A lot of the info is elswhere or just a combination of conjecture you could find on any teams board. Plus he claims to have a Kings source and then shares info on the mindset of other teams like they would share their internal plans with the Kings. The fact that he freaks out and threatens to withhold info every time he perceives he's being challenged doesn't help.

But that's just my opinion. I know a lot of other people enjoy his stuff. So I'll let it go.

You haven't let anything go . You have been rude yourself .
What I say is true . You are a hater and you are just here to be negative .
You don't like me or what I say ignore me or tune me out . I don't care & I don't care for any of your past replies towards me or your opinions .

Your reactions come off like a 13 year old who is taking his ball home when he doesn't like the game. It hardly sounds like someone connected with a legit pro sports front office. Unless it's a family member in which case I still think actual rumors you get make up about 10% of the stuff you post. But if the attention is that important to you, have at it man.

Good try I am a grown man however your the one acting like a child .

I have a history of informing a lot of info before it happens some examples are just to name some more recent .

#1 last year us trading J.T. , SAUCE & LANDRY & we traded all .
Signing A. Miller before we did so .

This year . Jan 1st in this thread about us talking trading Gay . That didn't break on the internet until the 15th 2 weeks later . Mind you I said specifically we were talking to the Pelicans about R. Anderson & E .Gordon .
I also mentioned about us talking trade of MARCO before that broke .

I guess I know nothing & you know everything ?

I am glad you are the end all and be all to determine whom is a liar and real and whom is not . I guess that would make you the high all mighty by your logic .

I have no family relations to the KINGS . You are just yet another person who goes on the internet to be negative , start drama because you are looking to cause problems , be negative and take away peoples joy .

I am real and sincere . I speak the truth . I am tired of people like you . I am greatful to the more positive members whom have been more supportive & kind . I am ashamed that you are even a KINGS fan because I would think our fans would have more class than to go online just to seek out starting drama & looking to bash members online that is very cowardly .

I am sure you will not do so but it would be appreciated if you never respond to anything I write again .
Though I am sure you won't be able to help yourself and reply with something negative or it will just be a matter of time before you pull this crap again .

[sdballer]

You haven't let anything go . You have been rude yourself .
What I say is true . You are a hater and you are just here to be negative .
You don't like me or what I say ignore me or tune me out . I don't care & I don't care for any of your past replies towards me or your opinions .

Your reactions come off like a 13 year old who is taking his ball home when he doesn't like the game. It hardly sounds like someone connected with a legit pro sports front office. Unless it's a family member in which case I still think actual rumors you get make up about 10% of the stuff you post. But if the attention is that important to you, have at it man.

Good try I am a grown man however your the one acting like a child .

I have a history of informing a lot of info before it happens some examples are just to name some more recent .

#1 last year us trading J.T. , SAUCE & LANDRY & we traded all .
Signing A. Miller before we did so .

This year . Jan 1st in this thread about us talking trading Gay . That didn't break on the internet until the 15th 2 weeks later . Mind you I said specifically we were talking to the Pelicans about R. Anderson & E .Gordon .
I also mentioned about us talking trade of MARCO before that broke .

I guess I know nothing & you know everything ?

I am glad you are the end all and be all to determine whom is a liar and real and whom is not . I guess that would make you the high all mighty by your logic .

I have no family relations to the KINGS . You are just yet another person who goes on the internet to be negative , start drama because you are looking to cause problems , be negative and take away peoples joy .

I am real and sincere . I speak the truth . I am tired of people like you . I am greatful to the more positive members whom have been more supportive & kind . I am ashamed that you are even a KINGS fan because I would think our fans would have more class than to go online just to seek out starting drama & looking to bash members online that is very cowardly .

I am sure you will not do so but it would be appreciated if you never respond to anything I write again .
Though I am sure you won't be able to help yourself and reply with something negative or it will just be a matter of time before you pull this crap again .

It was widely reported that we would try to trade either Ben or sauce last year and that eliminating JT/Landry would be necessary to clear cap space. All you reported at the time was that and that we may try to package them. The same thing was discussed at length on other Kings sites. How was that an inside scoop?

Andre Miller was also expected to be a target with the Karl connection. Again discussed on other sites prior. Maybe some of the fans here just don't go to other Kings sites where this stuff gets discussed.

The gay/no thing was good and as I said I think you may have a minor source but you've escalated from a solid, definitive rumor here and there to broad brush rumors involving 10-15 teams and lots more details on inner workings of multiple franchises. That's fairly typical of attention seeking behavior. They take facts and embellish with too many details.

[dozencousins]

Your reactions come off like a 13 year old who is taking his ball home when he doesn't like the game. It hardly sounds like someone connected with a legit pro sports front office. Unless it's a family member in which case I still think actual rumors you get make up about 10% of the stuff you post. But if the attention is that important to you, have at it man.

Good try I am a grown man however your the one acting like a child .

I have a history of informing a lot of info before it happens some examples are just to name some more recent .

#1 last year us trading J.T. , SAUCE & LANDRY & we traded all .
Signing A. Miller before we did so .

This year . Jan 1st in this thread about us talking trading Gay . That didn't break on the internet until the 15th 2 weeks later . Mind you I said specifically we were talking to the Pelicans about R. Anderson & E .Gordon .
I also mentioned about us talking trade of MARCO before that broke .

I guess I know nothing & you know everything ?

I am glad you are the end all and be all to determine whom is a liar and real and whom is not . I guess that would make you the high all mighty by your logic .

I have no family relations to the KINGS . You are just yet another person who goes on the internet to be negative , start drama because you are looking to cause problems , be negative and take away peoples joy .

I am real and sincere . I speak the truth . I am tired of people like you . I am greatful to the more positive members whom have been more supportive & kind . I am ashamed that you are even a KINGS fan because I would think our fans would have more class than to go online just to seek out starting drama & looking to bash members online that is very cowardly .

I am sure you will not do so but it would be appreciated if you never respond to anything I write again .
Though I am sure you won't be able to help yourself and reply with something negative or it will just be a matter of time before you pull this crap again .

It was widely reported that we would try to trade either Ben or sauce last year and that eliminating JT/Landry would be necessary to clear cap space. All you reported at the time was that and that we may try to package them. The same thing was discussed at length on other Kings sites. How was that an inside scoop?

Andre Miller was also expected to be a target with the Karl connection. Again discussed on other sites prior. Maybe some of the fans here just don't go to other Kings sites where this stuff gets discussed.

The gay/no thing was good and as I said I think you may have a minor source but you've escalated from a solid, definitive rumor here and there to broad brush rumors involving 10-15 teams and lots more details on inner workings of multiple franchises. That's fairly typical of attention seeking behavior. They take facts and embellish with too many details.

Proven just as I said you could not stop yourself from responding so this is my last towards you .

No your info is not correct that info was not widely reported before I dished it out .
In no way am I an attention seeker . I have been on here a bit the last month or two buy normally not on here a lot .
Bottom line you believe what you want your going to anyways .
There is always someone like you whom cannot possibly believe that someone on a board like this may actually have more insight to trade talks about this team than a Marc Stein etc. Oh yeah it was Stein whom reported the possible R.Gay being traded 2 weeks after me . That's right I know nothing and again you know it all .

I have said many of times . I do not always find out all Kings going's on first before it breaks but often enough I do .
Quit a bit of what you claim people have been aware of for awhile now I posted on this board before it broke on the internet at all . I guess they some media are stealing my posted info and running with it and getting credit huh .
lastly I don't read any other boards and not a part of any other boards so anything you claim about that I would not know of anything being said elsewhere .

You don't like what I have to say ignore it or don't respond . Again please stop your rudeness and drama it is uncalled for .

[sdballer]

Good try I am a grown man however your the one acting like a child .

I have a history of informing a lot of info before it happens some examples are just to name some more recent .

#1 last year us trading J.T. , SAUCE & LANDRY & we traded all .
Signing A. Miller before we did so .

This year . Jan 1st in this thread about us talking trading Gay . That didn't break on the internet until the 15th 2 weeks later . Mind you I said specifically we were talking to the Pelicans about R. Anderson & E .Gordon .
I also mentioned about us talking trade of MARCO before that broke .

I guess I know nothing & you know everything ?

I am glad you are the end all and be all to determine whom is a liar and real and whom is not . I guess that would make you the high all mighty by your logic .

I have no family relations to the KINGS . You are just yet another person who goes on the internet to be negative , start drama because you are looking to cause problems , be negative and take away peoples joy .

I am real and sincere . I speak the truth . I am tired of people like you . I am greatful to the more positive members whom have been more supportive & kind . I am ashamed that you are even a KINGS fan because I would think our fans would have more class than to go online just to seek out starting drama & looking to bash members online that is very cowardly .

I am sure you will not do so but it would be appreciated if you never respond to anything I write again .
Though I am sure you won't be able to help yourself and reply with something negative or it will just be a matter of time before you pull this crap again .

It was widely reported that we would try to trade either Ben or sauce last year and that eliminating JT/Landry would be necessary to clear cap space. All you reported at the time was that and that we may try to package them. The same thing was discussed at length on other Kings sites. How was that an inside scoop?

Andre Miller was also expected to be a target with the Karl connection. Again discussed on other sites prior. Maybe some of the fans here just don't go to other Kings sites where this stuff gets discussed.

The gay/no thing was good and as I said I think you may have a minor source but you've escalated from a solid, definitive rumor here and there to broad brush rumors involving 10-15 teams and lots more details on inner workings of multiple franchises. That's fairly typical of attention seeking behavior. They take facts and embellish with too many details.

Proven just as I said you could not stop yourself from responding so this is my last towards you .

No your info is not correct that info was not widely reported before I dished it out .
In no way am I an attention seeker . I have been on here a bit the last month or two buy normally not on here a lot .
Bottom line you believe what you want your going to anyways .
There is always someone like you whom cannot possibly believe that someone on a board like this may actually have more insight to trade talks about this team than a Marc Stein etc. Oh yeah it was Stein whom reported the possible R.Gay being traded 2 weeks after me . That's right I know nothing and again you know it all .

I have said many of times . I do not always find out all Kings going's on first before it breaks but often enough I do .
Quit a bit of what you claim people have been aware of for awhile now I posted on this board before it broke on the internet at all . I guess they some media are stealing my posted info and running with it and getting credit huh .
lastly I don't read any other boards and not a part of any other boards so anything you claim about that I would not know of anything being said elsewhere .

You don't like what I have to say ignore it or don't respond . Again please stop your rudeness and drama it is uncalled for .

I've got a new baby who can't sleep so I've got some time to kill. What's interesting is checking out your profile. When you joined in 2008 you were all about trades as well, except you didn't claim to have a source. So it looks like you were a typical fan that searched for rumors, checked out basketball sites and injury reports and then put together theoretical deals. Even then, you seemed to get aggravated when anyone "put down" deals you were suggesting.

After a while, you suddenly had a source and stopped being a fan thinking up trades to an "insider" reporting stuff. But the basic premise of your posts, even the language and sensitivity is about the same. It's interesting.

Ok back to not sleeping. I promise I'll let it go now.

[dozencousins]

It was widely reported that we would try to trade either Ben or sauce last year and that eliminating JT/Landry would be necessary to clear cap space. All you reported at the time was that and that we may try to package them. The same thing was discussed at length on other Kings sites. How was that an inside scoop?

Andre Miller was also expected to be a target with the Karl connection. Again discussed on other sites prior. Maybe some of the fans here just don't go to other Kings sites where this stuff gets discussed.

The gay/no thing was good and as I said I think you may have a minor source but you've escalated from a solid, definitive rumor here and there to broad brush rumors involving 10-15 teams and lots more details on inner workings of multiple franchises. That's fairly typical of attention seeking behavior. They take facts and embellish with too many details.

Proven just as I said you could not stop yourself from responding so this is my last towards you .

No your info is not correct that info was not widely reported before I dished it out .
In no way am I an attention seeker . I have been on here a bit the last month or two buy normally not on here a lot .
Bottom line you believe what you want your going to anyways .
There is always someone like you whom cannot possibly believe that someone on a board like this may actually have more insight to trade talks about this team than a Marc Stein etc. Oh yeah it was Stein whom reported the possible R.Gay being traded 2 weeks after me . That's right I know nothing and again you know it all .

I have said many of times . I do not always find out all Kings going's on first before it breaks but often enough I do .
Quit a bit of what you claim people have been aware of for awhile now I posted on this board before it broke on the internet at all . I guess they some media are stealing my posted info and running with it and getting credit huh .
lastly I don't read any other boards and not a part of any other boards so anything you claim about that I would not know of anything being said elsewhere .

You don't like what I have to say ignore it or don't respond . Again please stop your rudeness and drama it is uncalled for .

I've got a new baby who can't sleep so I've got some time to kill. What's interesting is checking out your profile. When you joined in 2008 you were all about trades as well, except you didn't claim to have a source. So it looks like you were a typical fan that searched for rumors, checked out basketball sites and injury reports and then put together theoretical deals. Even then, you seemed to get aggravated when anyone "put down" deals you were suggesting.

After a while, you suddenly had a source and stopped being a fan thinking up trades to an "insider" reporting stuff. But the basic premise of your posts, even the language and sensitivity is about the same. It's interesting.

Ok back to not sleeping. I promise I'll let it go now.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight sure you will .
I have never made trades up . I have only had my source the past just over 3 years now . I have never claimed to have always had a source .
For you to claim you have looked into me etc. goes to show you are trying to stir up problems if you have nothing better to do than to do that then your life must be a bit boring .
Again do not bother me again . I have asked you many times now .

[Jkam31]

I'm choosing to believe him as of now. And with rumors that blake might be on the block and DMC as well and him saying clippers were interested. I think a griffin DMC swap is good as it gets. This would happen in the off season if we don't play good the rest of the way and clippers do clipper things in the 2nd round

My god please don't trade DMC to lebron.
Interesting that LAC want him I'd do blake for DMC

This might be a bit of a long message here but I will try and break this all down .
I found out all this info from my source almost an hour ago before eating dinner & it's my first chance I am getting to share the info so here it goes .

#1 Miami Heat have not only contacted us about R.Gay they now have contacted us about Casspi I don't know the specifics as of yet about that directly .
#2 George Karl is not completely out of the woods yet but KINGS are more likely to keep him as Coach the remainder of the season . I disagree with this & think it's a mistake .
# 3 To nobody's real shock we are in talks with many teams about most all our players one way or the other . So many different directions it's all over the map .

#4 I want to concentrate on a lot of info about Cousins :

First let me say I am a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge Cousins fan He & C-Webb are my all time Sacramento Kings favorites so alot of what I write next pains me a ton & kind of saddens me .

Two weeks ago he was Untouchable . Now he is not however it will take a massive offer for anyone to still get him to be clear .
I am going to break down possibilities as best as I can

#1 We trade him before the deadline and get a ton offered to us & I mean a ton . I don't think this is the senario that will happen I think 2 or 3 is more likely .

#2 We keep him past the deadline . The Kings play great ball and close out the season making the playoffs or at least clearly showing a constant massive improvement and we continue to keep him going into next season .

# 3 We keep him past the deadline not make the playoffs , play not respectable enough & or poorly and then he gets traded this off season sometime more likely after the NBA Draft lottery order has played out possibly trading him for the #1 over all pick + a ton more .

I will also add contrary to any reports Kings have talked with Boston & Clevland most notably as well as Clippers & Heat in regards to Cousins . That is not to say that we haven't spoken with others .
I know L.James & I. Thomas as well as Riley all want CUZ very badly .

KINGS are not happy with CUZ & GAY'S NBA IQ overall .
R.Gay fouling late in a game were he didn't have to do so which made the game more out of reach . CUZ late technical in a game were we had closed the gap & had the game within reach only for the T to cost us . These are just examples of just a couple of situations of many both players have hurt us .

The trade deadline if we deal we will be looking for Higher IQ type players , more about the team type players & defense .

At this point if KARL is truly staying Cousins might be going .
If Cousins stays Karl could still be going but not likely until after the season if so . But if so & both stayed then Kings may then fire Karl after the season and still also trade CUZ .

I might end up being wrong but I expect GAY ( gone )
I could mention others but at this point the only 1 person I would be shocked if traded is WCS at this point nobody else would be a shock to me unless the trade was an idiotic one and I don't think that will be the situation .


WCS is safe almost guaranteed , Rondo likely safe but not as safe as WCS .
I personally like Quincy's hustle as well as Collison's and hope we keep them . But that's just me

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I wouldn't worry about it. Basically these rumors suggest:

Miami might have inquired about casspi, which had already been leaked

That we may keep cuz, or trade him, or keep him than trade him later

That we may not keep Karl forever

That we've talked to a number of teams about most of our players

And that if we make a trade it would be to improve team especially on defense which had also already been discussed elswhere.

Honestly not trying to be a jerk but people in here out so much weight into every rumor this guy puts out there and for some reason it annoys me. It feels like he may have a limited source but needs attention so he "improvises" when he needs material. A lot of the info is elswhere or just a combination of conjecture you could find on any teams board. Plus he claims to have a Kings source and then shares info on the mindset of other teams like they would share their internal plans with the Kings. The fact that he freaks out and threatens to withhold info every time he perceives he's being challenged doesn't help.

But that's just my opinion. I know a lot of other people enjoy his stuff. So I'll let it go.

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[nolimit0820]

If you have a source great, but let's be real here...you expect to come on an Internet forum, claim to have a source, and expect true fans to not be suspicious?

you can't expect people to just bow at your feet. Nor should you get upset when you're challenged. It looks foolish and hurts your credibility.

Think objectively here...you're on an Internet forum positing about your "source." It could be accurate, but many times as the above poster mentioned your scenarios cover literally almost every scenario. Cousins may or may not get traded before the deadline. They may keep him. He's no longer untouchable.

That's not legitimate...at all...sorry man...but the reality is it just sounds bogus and hurts credibility. Now this is a forum so it's quite entertaining, so please by all means go at it. But in this space, to expect people to either bow at your feet and/or not say anything at all is hilarious.

I never say anything about this stuff, but the constant complaints about others calling you out gets funny/annoying. I'm not helping the situation, but I'm also hoping maybe just maybe this post might sink in and a light will turn on that says...I'm on an Internet forum claiming to have a source and I understand the legitimacy of that will forever be questioned.

I can't believe I'm even responding to this. But it's Wednesday. We all need a good laugh. So thank you for tuning in, friends. Now back to King's basketball...

[nolimit0820]

I commend Vlade for his patience. He inherited a plagued franchise and he is bringing stability to a chaotic environment. The stability being in the front office/coaching. I respect that. Firing a HOF coach is NOT a good look for the franchise. Then you get the coaching fraternity ripping the Kings and the franchise's respect levels again plunder.

Vlade is not afraid to pull a trade. I'm open to seeing this team disintegrate. Honestly, I'd want to hold on to Ben and WCS if we were to blow it up. I can't believe I'm willing to see a trade of Cousins, but if you're blowing it up better not leave any c4 that might blow it up even more later.

This franchise although it may set them back years from championship contender (lol) I don't think it sets us out of playoffs for long. With cousins and company you can pull back pieces that are going to be young, play hard and compete (i.e trailblazers)

[City of Trees]

I commend Vlade for his patience. He inherited a plagued franchise and he is bringing stability to a chaotic environment. The stability being in the front office/coaching. I respect that. Firing a HOF coach is NOT a good look for the franchise. Then you get the coaching fraternity ripping the Kings and the franchise's respect levels again plunder.

Vlade is not afraid to pull a trade. I'm open to seeing this team disintegrate. Honestly, I'd want to hold on to Ben and WCS if we were to blow it up. I can't believe I'm willing to see a trade of Cousins, but if you're blowing it up better not leave any c4 that might blow it up even more later.

This franchise although it may set them back years from championship contender (lol) I don't think it sets us out of playoffs for long. With cousins and company you can pull back pieces that are going to be young, play hard and compete (i.e trailblazers)

Let's hope it was Vlade's decision and not the Minority Owners saying No like Sam Amick is reporting.

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[benchmobbin02]

I commend Vlade for his patience. He inherited a plagued franchise and he is bringing stability to a chaotic environment. The stability being in the front office/coaching. I respect that. Firing a HOF coach is NOT a good look for the franchise. Then you get the coaching fraternity ripping the Kings and the franchise's respect levels again plunder.

Vlade is not afraid to pull a trade. I'm open to seeing this team disintegrate. Honestly, I'd want to hold on to Ben and WCS if we were to blow it up. I can't believe I'm willing to see a trade of Cousins, but if you're blowing it up better not leave any c4 that might blow it up even more later.

This franchise although it may set them back years from championship contender (lol) I don't think it sets us out of playoffs for long. With cousins and company you can pull back pieces that are going to be young, play hard and compete (i.e trailblazers)

Let's hope it was Vlade's decision and not the Minority Owners saying No like Sam Amick is reporting.

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I, for one, take Vlade at his word that the final decision rests with him alone. I have always taken him to be a straight shooter. Of course, it's his word vs Amick's so I can understand people doubting.