Cousins demanded a trade(Other fans: Stop proposing trades)

[SacKingZZZ]

Well his value wouldn't have been hurt that much if we didn't make this public statement.

Especially from a coach that has nearly destroyed his team in the past. I noticed Westphal made some remark at Cousins after a play last night and Cousins said something back.

This is just not good, scary Warriors/Webber situation going on here and at least they sided with a HALL OF FAME COACH. The Kings siding with Westphal, while right on some levels, it such a wrong move. The entire team is pissed at him, WTF?

[pillwenney]

Well nothing can be based on anything, it's all a matter of who do you believe I guess - but honestly looking at this whole mess, if indeed Cousins said he wanted a trade - is it not alot more reasonable, due to the heart of the issue, to be directly cause of the coach? with the reports of other players like tyreke showing same frustration? with the fact that since he's here - other then the first half of his first season - we're only going backwards or at best sideways - but not at all moving forward?

I would much more believe that IF demarcous said such a thing, it would be cause of the coach and the coach alone.

And I ment spenc who also had a beef with coach, and Omri here in Israel(and especielly his father) always hinted and adressed the coach as the biggest problem.

Or it could also be because Demarcus has always had problems like this--like, forever.

Also a possibility, no doubt about it - but seeing that our biggest problem in the team, not only with Demarcus but alot of other players, has been the coach - I personally think IF he indeed said it, that that reason is much much more likely.

And I'm not absolving Westphal of any potential blame here. But doing what Demarcus is doing (if the reports are true) is a horrible overreaction.

[Flipstorm]

Oh god, this franchise is so screwed. There is no way you can come out of this situation without looking completely and utterly incompetent. How we got from the Laker game to here this fast is beyond me. The press release makes me really worried that management is actually gonna side with Westphal and trade Cousins. Why else would they release this? And why is he gonna be sitting this out. This sounds like the beginning of one of those situations where the player sits at home until the team trades him.

Its clear the Westphal is the problem. We have been trying to shift blame away from him, but after 2 failed seasons and now this it is clear that he has no clue how to run an offense. We were complaining about him 2 years ago, and well now things are no different. We actually have the talent to have a decent team and our offense is still garbage. Westphal seems to have lost the team already, I dunno how he can be supported. The Maloofs are looking really incompetent right now.

[pillwenney]

Well his value wouldn't have been hurt that much if we didn't make this public statement.

Especially from a coach that has nearly destroyed his team in the past. I noticed Westphal made some remark at Cousins after a play last night and Cousins said something back.

This is just not good, scary Warriors/Webber situation going on here and at least they sided with a HALL OF FAME COACH. The Kings siding with Westphal, while right on some levels, it such a wrong move. The entire team is pissed at him, WTF?

I'm not sure what evidence there is that the entire team is pissed at him. They're all frustrated, but you're reading into things to assume that means it's directed at Westphal.

[Ballings7]

Completely agree on Evans. He needs time to gel.

[boogie-reke]

Ofcourse I agree that it was best to keep his tempers - but can you honestly blaim the dude?

And it's not about Demarcus at all - I would say the same thing for Tyreke, or any other player in our roster. as a young player who looks to improove as a player, I wouldn't want to have anything to do with him as my coach aswell, and if it came down to it i'd want to be moved too.

I mean it's not like we're not seeing what he's doing with our own 2 eyes no?

Anyways I just hope this is fixed with Westphal being fired. with or without Demarcus being moved.

[pillwenney]

Ofcourse I agree that it was best to keep his tempers - but can you honestly blaim the dude?

And it's not about Demarcus at all - I would say the same thing for Tyreke, or any other player in our roster. as a young player who looks to improove as a player, I wouldn't want to have anything to do with him as my coach aswell, and if it came down to it i'd want to be moved too.

I mean it's not like we're not seeing what he's doing with our own 2 eyes no?

Anyways I just hope this is fixed with Westphal being fired. with or without Demarcus being moved.

Yes, I can blame him. Because we're 4 games into the youngest season in NBA history (usually still an ugly part of preseason at this point). It's way too early to react like this on both sides.

And we're also still assuming that this is directly about Westphal.

[Jodi]

How about send Cousins to the Pistons for the Singler/Maxiell and a Pistons 2012 1st round pick

[BrooklynBulls]

Holy. ****. ****.

[deNIEd]

with or without Demarcus being moved.

If we move DeMarcus, we will be lucky to get a third of what his value was at the start of the season. His value now is probably the same as Hickson. King's have lost essentially all leverage in this situation.

[SacKingZZZ]

And I'm not absolving Westphal of any potential blame here. But doing what Demarcus is doing (if the reports are true) is a horrible overreaction.

I don't know the crux of the issue here, but if it's his statement saying "everybody needs to buy in" and the Kings let Westphal have an open mic like this....well....this organization is doomed. Siding with a coach who has one foot out of the door, has pissed off the entire team apparently (and certainly did last year), and is the one behind this IMO. While the intention is to show that he's the boss, I'm sorry, wrong path to travel.

[pillwenney]

And I'm not absolving Westphal of any potential blame here. But doing what Demarcus is doing (if the reports are true) is a horrible overreaction.

I don't know the crux of the issue here, but if it's his statement saying "everybody needs to buy in" and the Kings let Westphal have an open mic like this....well....this organization is doomed. Siding with a coach who has one foot out of the door, has pissed off the entire team apparently (and certainly did last year), and is the one behind this IMO. While the intention is to show that he's the boss, I'm sorry, wrong path to travel.

What is your evidence that he has one foot out the door? And what is your evidence that he has pissed off the entire team?

[N Ireland Nets]

Why the heck was that statement released and therefore ruining the value of Cousins in a trade. Now you guys will get lowballed.

It sucks, feel sorry for you fans, don't deserve that. What do you fans think you'll get in return for Cousins now?

[SacKingZZZ]

Ofcourse I agree that it was best to keep his tempers - but can you honestly blaim the dude?

And it's not about Demarcus at all - I would say the same thing for Tyreke, or any other player in our roster. as a young player who looks to improove as a player, I wouldn't want to have anything to do with him as my coach aswell, and if it came down to it i'd want to be moved too.

I mean it's not like we're not seeing what he's doing with our own 2 eyes no?

Anyways I just hope this is fixed with Westphal being fired. with or without Demarcus being moved.

Yes, I can blame him. Because we're 4 games into the youngest season in NBA history (usually still an ugly part of preseason at this point). It's way too early to react like this on both sides.

And we're also still assuming that this is directly about Westphal.

Of course this is directly about Paul Westphal. I know exactly what this is, Petrie standing behind his coach who is trying to send a message to his team and his players. It's a gamble for sure, could be the right move long term, or the worst move in history.

Anyone who doesn't think Cousins is by far the best prospect on this team in terms of raw talent just doesn't know basketball. This would be destruction for this team if he's not on it.

[pillwenney]

Of course this is directly about Paul Westphal. I know exactly what this is, Petrie standing behind his coach who is trying to send a message to his team and his players. It's a gamble for sure, could be the right move long term, or the worst move in history.

Anyone who doesn't think Cousins is by far the best prospect on this team in terms of raw talent just doesn't know basketball. This would be destruction for this team if he's not on it.

That's complete and total speculation.

I don't disagree on the second part. But that doesn't absolve him of anything.

[SacKingZZZ]

Why the heck was that statement released and therefore ruining the value of Cousins in a trade. Now you guys will get lowballed.

It sucks, feel sorry for you fans, don't deserve that. What do you fans think you'll get in return for Cousins now?

You know why? Because Petrie has no intentions of trading Cousins. This is about sending a message, I don't really know what that message is, but it's a message nonetheless.

Cousins camp is denying a trade request. I'll bet you anything that this is how it went down:

Westphal: Blah, blah, blah
Cousisn: Blah blah blah
Westphal: Oh yeah! Blah, blah, blah
Cousins: Well if that's how you feel maybe you should just trade me.

[boogie-reke]

Ofcourse I agree that it was best to keep his tempers - but can you honestly blaim the dude?

And it's not about Demarcus at all - I would say the same thing for Tyreke, or any other player in our roster. as a young player who looks to improove as a player, I wouldn't want to have anything to do with him as my coach aswell, and if it came down to it i'd want to be moved too.

I mean it's not like we're not seeing what he's doing with our own 2 eyes no?

Anyways I just hope this is fixed with Westphal being fired. with or without Demarcus being moved.

Yes, I can blame him. Because we're 4 games into the youngest season in NBA history (usually still an ugly part of preseason at this point). It's way too early to react like this on both sides.

And we're also still assuming that this is directly about Westphal.

Well - the way I see it atleast - he is doing this team a favor putting us in a spot where our FO has to deside and possibly fire westphal.

He might be hurting us currently, but if all of this indeed makes our FO choose Demarcus over Westphal - or even choose to trade Demarcus and fire Westphal - then this is a Blessing in disguise - and thats why I don't really blaim him.

I mean players came and went, but they all still suck when they put on a Kings jersy, as individual and more esp as a unit.

Whats in common with everything? the coach is the still the same.

Players within our team talk in frustration about our offence and our system, same goes for players who left the team already and give thier 2 cents about the situation and esp the coach - whats in common with everything?

Thats why I can't really blaim Demarcus in this case if it's indeed played out the way I think it did(which is strictly a hunch obviously)- and again it doesn't even matter to me that it's Demarcus - it could just as easily be any other player on our roster.

We have 1 huge cancer in our body as a franchise, and it needs to be taken out of our system ASAP. if all of this mess helps to make it happen now, this is again a Blessing in disguise

[pillwenney]

I'd like to think that you're right and that this will all work out.

[deNIEd]

Ofcourse I agree that it was best to keep his tempers - but can you honestly blaim the dude?

And it's not about Demarcus at all - I would say the same thing for Tyreke, or any other player in our roster. as a young player who looks to improove as a player, I wouldn't want to have anything to do with him as my coach aswell, and if it came down to it i'd want to be moved too.

I mean it's not like we're not seeing what he's doing with our own 2 eyes no?

Anyways I just hope this is fixed with Westphal being fired. with or without Demarcus being moved.

Yes, I can blame him. Because we're 4 games into the youngest season in NBA history (usually still an ugly part of preseason at this point). It's way too early to react like this on both sides.

And we're also still assuming that this is directly about Westphal.

Of course this is directly about Paul Westphal. I know exactly what this is, Petrie standing behind his coach who is trying to send a message to his team and his players. It's a gamble for sure, could be the right move long term, or the worst move in history.

Anyone who doesn't think Cousins is by far the best prospect on this team in terms of raw talent just doesn't know basketball. This would be destruction for this team if he's not on it.

I'm confused with what you're trying to say. If the King's were going to go anywhere, it was going to be because of DeMarcus....

King's FO released this to send a message to the players to respect the coach? And you single out the player that would have saved the franchise and essentially put national attention on this situation? What?

[deNIEd]

What coaches don't have a job and would be willing to come the Sacramento?