Karl Officially Out, Who's the best fit to replace him?

[Kings2013]

I think we'll hear a name (s) starting tomorrow.

Thibs is out of range obviously. I'd like Jay Wright or an up and coming hungry coach. McHale might make some sense with Cousins.

[KF10]

I think McHale makes the most sense even if we have or didn't have Cousins on the team. McHale is easily the most qualified coach in our range, imo. I think it's an easy choice for McHale if the competition consists of the likes of VDN, Jackson, Hornacek, etc. Ewing and all of those nba assistants are intriguing options but I think you really have to go with McHale in this one..

Thibs, Brooks, JVG are out of our range, unfortunately.

[Wolfay]

Y'all are hilarious. VDN is actually perfect because he'll bend over backwards and break his spine for Cousins, which is the only qualification that matters if you want to hold onto him. Don't be surprised if the candidate pool reflects that. The less the coach knows about coaching and basketball, the better, because all of that will just get in the way of being Cousins' bitch. We're North Korea and Cousins is Kim Jong-un.

[Kings2013]

Y'all are hilarious. VDN is actually perfect because he'll bend over backwards and break his spine for Cousins, which is the only qualification that matters if you want to hold onto him. Don't be surprised if the candidate pool reflects that. The less the coach knows about coaching and basketball, the better, because all of that will just get in the way of being Cousins' bitch. We're North Korea and Cousins is Kim Jong-un.

Not really. Just can't be a coach who tries to implement his own system over the qualities of the roster. It would help if the new coach didn't have a 180 degree difference in offense philosophy from the teams best player - leagues fastest pace, perimeter play etc. Or if the new coach made an effort with Cousins personally.

But yes, the teams best player is a dominant post presence who works better in a more half court game, and I'm sure Vlade understands that and the hiring will reflect that if Cuz is retained

[City of Trees]

because all of that will just get in the way of being Cousins' bitch. We're North Korea and Cousins is Kim Jong-un.

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[KF10]

If that was the case, Keith Smart would still be here. Smart was "buddies buddies" with everyone on roster and didn't hold players accountable for anything... and yet he got the axe eventually. Same goes with Ty Corbin too. Doesn't fit on what has been said.

No one is saying that Cousins is not a difficult player to manage but given the quality of coaches that passed through Sacramento, it is downright pathetic. I still remember the only reason why Westphal was hired by the Kings because he was the cheapest to hire and the only coach that accepted pennies to coach under the Maloof-directed regime.

Most if not all of those coaches that coached the Kings in the previous 6-7 years are still jobless and haven't coached a game since. Hmm..

Before someone points to Karl and his resume for the thousand's of time, it wasn't only Cousins that didn't like him, it was majority of the team. Karl has been throwing his players under the bus in every post game and likes to voice his (direct) opinions through the media. A strategy that works...maybe 2 out of 10 times. Not too mention Karl is in the twilight of his coaching career. Not an exact science on why he didn't work in Sacramento.

McHale is a legit HOF player that commands respect. Fortunately -- he was a big when he played in the NBA and knows a thing or two about the game through a big's eyes. He has a nice blend/blanace on being a player's coach and when to hold player's accountable, imo. His coaching style fits with what we have on roster. We finally have a coaching candidate that checks off most if not all the boxes on what we should be looking for in a coach.

[Wolfay]

If that was the case, Keith Smart would still be here. Smart was "buddies buddies" with everyone on roster and didn't hold players accountable for anything... and yet he got the axe eventually. Same goes with Ty Corbin too. Doesn't fit on what has been said.

No one is saying that Cousins is not a difficult player to manage but given the quality of coaches that passed through Sacramento, it is downright pathetic. I still remember the only reason why Westphal was hired by the Kings because he was the cheapest to hire and the only coach that accepted pennies to coach under the Maloof-directed regime.

Most if not all of those coaches that coached the Kings in the previous 6-7 years are still jobless and haven't coached a game since. Hmm..

Before someone points to Karl and his resume for the thousand's of time, it wasn't only Cousins that didn't like him, it was majority of the team. Karl has been throwing his players under the bus in every post game and likes to voice his (direct) opinions through the media. A strategy that works...maybe 2 out of 10 times. Not too mention Karl is in the twilight of his coaching career. Not an exact science on why he didn't work in Sacramento.

That's some revisionist history. Keith Smart got into profanity-laced fights and even suspended Cousins. I don't what it is, Stockholm Syndrome or something, but the grip that Cousins has on you guys is frightening. Your reality is so distorted that you actually think Cousins was a model citizen before Karl. Dude, even Malone, the fabled Cousins whisperer, wanted Cousins axed before he took the job.

Not an exact science on why NOBODY, NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON, EVER worked in Sacramento since Cousins was drafted.

McHale is a legit HOF player that commands respect. Fortunately -- he was a big when he played in the NBA and knows a thing or two about the game through a big's eyes. He has a nice blend/blanace on being a player's coach and when to hold player's accountable, imo. His coaching style fits with what we have on roster. We finally have a coaching candidate that checks off most if not all the boxes on what we should be looking for in a coach.

Yeah, that sure helped his relationship with Harden. I'm sure Cousins, who has 100 times the butthurt and not even half the success, is going to do a 180

[Kings2013]

If that was the case, Keith Smart would still be here. Smart was "buddies buddies" with everyone on roster and didn't hold players accountable for anything... and yet he got the axe eventually. Same goes with Ty Corbin too. Doesn't fit on what has been said.

No one is saying that Cousins is not a difficult player to manage but given the quality of coaches that passed through Sacramento, it is downright pathetic. I still remember the only reason why Westphal was hired by the Kings because he was the cheapest to hire and the only coach that accepted pennies to coach under the Maloof-directed regime.

Most if not all of those coaches that coached the Kings in the previous 6-7 years are still jobless and haven't coached a game since. Hmm..

Before someone points to Karl and his resume for the thousand's of time, it wasn't only Cousins that didn't like him, it was majority of the team. Karl has been throwing his players under the bus in every post game and likes to voice his (direct) opinions through the media. A strategy that works...maybe 2 out of 10 times. Not too mention Karl is in the twilight of his coaching career. Not an exact science on why he didn't work in Sacramento.

That's some revisionist history. Keith Smart got into profanity-laced fights and even suspended Cousins. I don't what it is, Stockholm Syndrome or something, but the grip that Cousins has on you guys is frightening. Your reality is so distorted that you actually think Cousins was a model citizen before Karl. Dude, even Malone, the fabled Cousins whisperer, wanted Cousins axed before he took the job.

Not an exact science on why NOBODY, NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON, EVER worked in Sacramento since Cousins was drafted.

McHale is a legit HOF player that commands respect. Fortunately -- he was a big when he played in the NBA and knows a thing or two about the game through a big's eyes. He has a nice blend/blanace on being a player's coach and when to hold player's accountable, imo. His coaching style fits with what we have on roster. We finally have a coaching candidate that checks off most if not all the boxes on what we should be looking for in a coach.

Yeah, that sure helped his relationship with Harden. I'm sure Cousins, who has 100 times the butthurt and not even half the success, is going to do a 180

Do you have a link for the Malone part?

The Kings have been a bad franchise and IMO have had no coaches worthy to continue on, regardless of Cousins. To me that's false equivalency to relate the two

At any rate, IMO, this is Sacramento. This place has had no success with free agency the draft, and has draft obligations owed to Philly. It's not like Burger King, where you can have your way so to speak. Would it be nice if DMC was a squeaky clean cat? Yes, but he may still be the only hope, getting him on page, the franchise has at becoming respectable in the near future. Yes, as an avid fan I think he's a decent hearted kid that can mature with a coach who respects him and game plans for him if we start to become more competitive, even with his checkered history, and there is only one way to find out.. And if we hire a coach who establishes a relationship with him and tries to work with him and this type of upheaval is still going on, then trade him next trade deadline and I'm wrong.

I believe Vlade to feel the same way that I do. He stated DMC to be untouchable last summer and last deadline. DMC didn't need an exit interview with Vlade because they were on the same page, and Sam Amick's latest article about the situation a few days ago had Vlade saying the team is still building around him. IMO he's going to be here unless there is a deal that makes the team better. He's the team's number one asset, and will be treated as such IMO.

[blind prophet]

The good news is this season should be the last "feeler/explore" season. We should know if we are gonna completely rebuild, or finally be able to progress next year.

[rpa]

Can't believe I'm going to say this, but I think the Kings should go after Ewing and go after him HARD. There are 2 main reasons why I think this:

#1: The Kings need someone who's hungry. They can't keep trying to bring in retreads and hope that it works out. They need someone who's hungry enough to bust his ass to make this a winning team. Remember the last time we had a guy like that in Malone? Don't we all still wish he was never fired?

#2: The Kings aren't going to be a premier destination. Hell, the Kings aren't even going to be someone's third choice. They're going to be the choice of the guy that has few other options. Personally, I'd rather go after the young(ish), hungry coach who no one else wants to give a shot to.

Also, if you look at his resume as a coach he's not a guy who has used his career as a crutch. The guy works his ass off, he looks at film, and he's got a defensive mind.

[City of Trees]

Cousins and Calipari used to get into on the court. Cousins has never had a coach he didn't challenge.

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[Kings2013]

Cousins and Calipari used to get into on the court. Cousins has never had a coach he didn't challenge.

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He's going to be here until there is a deal that makes sense on the court for him not to be. I guess I just don't see the point in not supporting the players on the team til that point

You don't know if someone would offer your preferred deal (top 2/+) given his rep and contract

His personality is part of the game. He's a hothead who is overly emotional. I think it can be channeled relatively positively as he matures. But I don't think beggars can be choosers

But we will see how it plays out

[City of Trees]

Cousins and Calipari used to get into on the court. Cousins has never had a coach he didn't challenge.

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He's going to be here until there is a deal that makes sense on the court for him not to be. I guess I just don't see the point in not supporting the players on the team til that point

It's not like i root against the guy. For me, it's just I think the Kings would be better without him, so I share my opinion to trade him. Kings can't trade him if he stinks.

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[SacKingZZZ]

I'd be iffy on a first time coach even though Ewing is ready, and I'm also sure someone waiting that long is going to be iffy about the Kings being potentially their ONLY shot at the big time. If they end up just another blip on the Kings radar that might be all she wrote. I think they need someone with both experience and a willingness to build the offense around the best players on the team. That is McHale a million times over.

[PaKwAn]

just hire Cousins as the coach...he might get along with our best player...

[Kings2013]

Cousins and Calipari used to get into on the court. Cousins has never had a coach he didn't challenge.

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He's going to be here until there is a deal that makes sense on the court for him not to be. I guess I just don't see the point in not supporting the players on the team til that point

It's not like i root against the guy. For me, it's just I think the Kings would be better without him, so I share my opinion to trade him. Kings can't trade him if he stinks.

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You don't know what his value is or how much he would command.

Vlade isn't going into the summer with an onus on that given everything I've read, if a deal pops up that makes sense it will happen

[SacKingZZZ]

Cousins and Calipari used to get into on the court. Cousins has never had a coach he didn't challenge.

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He's going to be here until there is a deal that makes sense on the court for him not to be. I guess I just don't see the point in not supporting the players on the team til that point

It's not like i root against the guy. For me, it's just I think the Kings would be better without him, so I share my opinion to trade him. Kings can't trade him if he stinks.

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I think it's worth a shot to give him a "handpicked" coach. And by that I mean relative to his on court abilities and not his personality issues. Plenty of people act like that's happened already when it hasn't happened one time. If anything they've consistently not done that, nor have they, until Vlade showed up at least, built the team around him in any sort of way. This is the last chance to do that and see where it leads. I'm telling you, watch what happens when they finally have a coach with some power who plays Cousins the right way. All those little quirks will just seem to fade away.

[SacKingZZZ]

just hire Cousins as the coach...he might get along with our best player...

Here's the funny thing about how backwards things are perceived sometimes. Cousins doesn't want that, and neither did many of his teammates last year as well. They weren't against being coached. This was a guy BEGGING to be coached. You could see it all throughout preseason, there was no coaching to be found! No system in place. Heck, even Vance Walberg basically stated that in that video interview posted after he was fired.

[City of Trees]

He's going to be here until there is a deal that makes sense on the court for him not to be. I guess I just don't see the point in not supporting the players on the team til that point

It's not like i root against the guy. For me, it's just I think the Kings would be better without him, so I share my opinion to trade him. Kings can't trade him if he stinks.

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I think it's worth a shot to give him a "handpicked" coach. And by that I mean relative to his on court abilities and not his personality issues. Plenty of people act like that's happened already when it hasn't happened one time. If anything they've consistently not done that, nor have they, until Vlade showed up at least, built the team around him in any sort of way. This is the last chance to do that and see where it leads. I'm telling you, watch what happens when they finally have a coach with some power who plays Cousins the right way. All those little quirks will just seem to fade away.

Maybe it does work with another coach, anything is possible. I've just reached my limit on patience with him... It would be a lot easier for me if Cousins actually played the way Kings fans love to see the game played.

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[teerfour+40LG]

The new coach has to hold all players equally accountable, since that was one of the complaints out of the locker room this season, so no David Blatt.