Welcome Georgios Papagiannis!

[Jkam31]

I don't really know much about Papa other than YouTube highlights. he himself said that he can shoot the 3,vlade also said that he shot the ball pretty good during his workout and on that Instagram video he was comfortably hitting the 3 ball.. on most sites though they have said different things like his range can be up to 15 feet away and most of his highlights are mostly dunks and hook shots. I don't even recall seeing midrange shots in his highlights..

Reports were he shot lights out at his workout for teams. Also I read he went 49-55 from 3 in a workout. Yes he's open but if that's true he's shooting better than DMC 33% this year


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[Greek]

Papajohn can shoot on 1vs none but since i follow his career and i never saw him taking a 3pt shot on any competitive games. Still ive seen him to take the 15-20 feet shot, so is still something, but dont expect him to be a stretch 5 from the day one. Also i consider the comparisons with Okur off, since Okur was a primary shooter and then anything else. Papa is a low post player with a good potential to develop a reliable 3pt shot, but he is not there yet.

[turbostef]

Just one thing. PapaG has been playing against grown Men Last year. Ok only in the greek final but still more competition than college

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[Mirotic12]

You don't trade a HOF big for freaking Georgios Papajohnis.

Nah, seriously though, he's talking about spreading the floor for Demarcus so he clearly knows how to fit in. I think he can play now for a good 10-14 (which is all the minutes Koufos got when Willie finally got more burn) like you say and be at least as good as Koufos and probably better since he can play with Cousins a bit. That's the problem with Koufos is that he and Cuz just can't play together at all. Defensively and offensively it's just horrible.

From listening to Vlade it sounds like Papa plays now, and Skal is the D-League big.

Papagiannis is not going to be spreading the floor for anyone, and he definitely can't play in the same lineup with Cousins. If this is the King's plan, then they are probably tanking.

Well, he's already asking to be allowed to shoot the long ball. If he can't, it's going to severely limit his impact and court time from the get.

Papagiannis is a post center, and he's too slow to guard anywhere but center position. So the Kings are definitely smoking something really good, if that is their plan. Papagiannis has tremendous talent, but the Kings are high if they believe that.

Papajohn can shoot on 1vs none but since i follow his career and i never saw him taking a 3pt shot on any competitive games. Still ive seen him to take the 15-20 feet shot, so is still something, but dont expect him to be a stretch 5 from the day one. Also i consider the comparisons with Okur off, since Okur was a primary shooter and then anything else. Papa is a low post player with a good potential to develop a reliable 3pt shot, but he is not there yet.

Exactly. If the Kings think he is a stretch 5, then they are going to ruin his career. And yeah, I see no similarity at all with Papagiannis and Okur.

[SacKingZZZ]

Papagiannis is not going to be spreading the floor for anyone, and he definitely can't play in the same lineup with Cousins. If this is the King's plan, then they are probably tanking.

Well, he's already asking to be allowed to shoot the long ball. If he can't, it's going to severely limit his impact and court time from the get.

Papagiannis is a post center, and he's too slow to guard anywhere but center position. So the Kings are definitely smoking something really good, if that is their plan. Papagiannis has tremendous talent, but the Kings are high if they believe that.

Papajohn can shoot on 1vs none but since i follow his career and i never saw him taking a 3pt shot on any competitive games. Still ive seen him to take the 15-20 feet shot, so is still something, but dont expect him to be a stretch 5 from the day one. Also i consider the comparisons with Okur off, since Okur was a primary shooter and then anything else. Papa is a low post player with a good potential to develop a reliable 3pt shot, but he is not there yet.

Exactly. If the Kings think he is a stretch 5, then they are going to ruin his career. And yeah, I see no similarity at all with Papagiannis and Okur.

We'll see, he's 18 right? There is time for his game to grow. If he's a strict post center he'll suffer the same fate as Koufos when it was beyond abundantly clear he and Cousins were a bad fit together.

[enderwilson]

Papajohn can shoot on 1vs none but since i follow his career and i never saw him taking a 3pt shot on any competitive games. Still ive seen him to take the 15-20 feet shot, so is still something, but dont expect him to be a stretch 5 from the day one. Also i consider the comparisons with Okur off, since Okur was a primary shooter and then anything else. Papa is a low post player with a good potential to develop a reliable 3pt shot, but he is not there yet.

Exactly. If the Kings think he is a stretch 5, then they are going to ruin his career. And yeah, I see no similarity at all with Papagiannis and Okur.

We'll see, he's 18 right? There is time for his game to grow. If he's a strict post center he'll suffer the same fate as Koufos when it was beyond abundantly clear he and Cousins were a bad fit together.

Given that he's 18, (and what? one year playing competitively in Europe?) there hasn't been much of a career yet to make a clear assessment of his skill set or his capabilities, much less speculate on what's going to ruin his career. At the moment, we can only judge on what he has shown, and to this extent it's pretty impressive. From the in-game vids to the vines, he shows remarkable ability and agility for a 7' 2" rookie prospect.

[onfish2000]

Koufos and cousins was mainly a bad fit because Koufos struggled to make layups. if papagiannis can play, playing cousin at the 4 and papagiannis at the 5 might makes the plan

[Jkam31]

Koufos and cousins was mainly a bad fit because Koufos struggled to make layups. if papagiannis can play, playing cousin at the 4 and papagiannis at the 5 might makes the plan

It would be on defense but than again teams can't play quick PF under 6'10. DMC would destroy them and Papa at 7'2 would eat them as well


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[City of Trees]

The 18 year old will probably find most of his minutes backing up DMC at Center. Papa and Skal are both projects at this point. I don't see them as major contributors right away.

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[Jkam31]

The 18 year old will probably find most of his minutes backing up DMC at Center. Papa and Skal are both projects at this point. I don't see them as major contributors right away.

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Vlade comparing him to WCS rookie yearakes me believe he gets 10-16mpg. All backing up DMC


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[PaKwAn]

he doesn't have to be shooting 3's, if he can bury 15-20ft shots to keep the defense honest and be an effective low post player as well then this guy can be good.. it seems he still needs to get better conditioning wise and pnr defense might be a problem for him.

i like this kid to succeed and to prove the haters wrong! it would be nice if he did what porzingis did to the knicks fans in that he made the haters eat crow and turned them in to believers.. I'm not saying he will be as good as krsitaps did but in more of shutting the haters down!

[City of Trees]

Basically Joerger has a 7'2 18yr old kid to mold into the player he wants. Papagiannis seems to have the tools which leaves me to think he can develop into a contributing young player. It will be interesting to see how Joerger runs the team and what he will look for from Papagiannis.

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[SacKingZZZ]

Koufos and cousins was mainly a bad fit because Koufos struggled to make layups. if papagiannis can play, playing cousin at the 4 and papagiannis at the 5 might makes the plan

Plus Koufos couldn't defend PF's that played in pick and roll. Any decent outside big ate his lunch.

[Greek]

Exactly. If the Kings think he is a stretch 5, then they are going to ruin his career. And yeah, I see no similarity at all with Papagiannis and Okur.

We'll see, he's 18 right? There is time for his game to grow. If he's a strict post center he'll suffer the same fate as Koufos when it was beyond abundantly clear he and Cousins were a bad fit together.

Given that he's 18, (and what? one year playing competitively in Europe?) there hasn't been much of a career yet to make a clear assessment of his skill set or his capabilities, much less speculate on what's going to ruin his career. At the moment, we can only judge on what he has shown, and to this extent it's pretty impressive. From the in-game vids to the vines, he shows remarkable ability and agility for a 7' 2" rookie prospect.

One of my favorite summer events is the youth competitions, i rather watch youth games than NT games. If he didnt show a 3pt range on those competitions its hard to imagine him to be a stretch 5 soon. What i saw is that can hit with a good consistency the 15-20 feet. If he can expand his range up to 3pt? ofcourse he can, but is not there yet.

Now as far as about KK, when he was at his age it was mostly a finesse player with range up to 3pt and amazing hook shot. Then he bulked up and became the slow molossus player that he is now. Actually back then his offense was his calling card, not his D.

[miwaukee]

We'll see, he's 18 right? There is time for his game to grow. If he's a strict post center he'll suffer the same fate as Koufos when it was beyond abundantly clear he and Cousins were a bad fit together.

Given that he's 18, (and what? one year playing competitively in Europe?) there hasn't been much of a career yet to make a clear assessment of his skill set or his capabilities, much less speculate on what's going to ruin his career. At the moment, we can only judge on what he has shown, and to this extent it's pretty impressive. From the in-game vids to the vines, he shows remarkable ability and agility for a 7' 2" rookie prospect.

One of my favorite summer events is the youth competitions, i rather watch youth games than NT games. If he didnt show a 3pt range on those competitions its hard to imagine him to be a stretch 5 soon. What i saw is that can hit with a good consistency the 15-20 feet. If he can expand his range up to 3pt? ofcourse he can, but is not there yet.

Now as far as about KK, when he was at his age it was mostly a finesse player with range up to 3pt and amazing hook shot. Then he bulked up and became the slow molossus player that he is now. Actually back then his offense was his calling card, not his D.

the utah jazz completely **** him when i see how good he was. esp u18 carrying all of his team solo, rebounding, 3pointers, middlerange, he had everything

[onfish2000]

Koufos and cousins was mainly a bad fit because Koufos struggled to make layups. if papagiannis can play, playing cousin at the 4 and papagiannis at the 5 might makes the plan

Plus Koufos couldn't defend PF's that played in pick and roll. Any decent outside big ate his lunch.

Koufo's is a plus defender, no doubt. its his offense that's the problem. if koufos cant play defense he would have no value around the league. I can guarantee you, that many teams will have interest trading for Koufos this offseason strictly as a defensive center.

[SacKingZZZ]

Koufos and cousins was mainly a bad fit because Koufos struggled to make layups. if papagiannis can play, playing cousin at the 4 and papagiannis at the 5 might makes the plan

Plus Koufos couldn't defend PF's that played in pick and roll. Any decent outside big ate his lunch.

Koufo's is a plus defender, no doubt. its his offense that's the problem. if koufos cant play defense he would have no value around the league. I can guarantee you, that many teams will have interest trading for Koufos this offseason strictly as a defensive center.

He's a plus defender at the rim, when asked to guard shooters and pick and roll they ate an entire weeks worth of lunches from the dude. He's a center, that's where he should stay.

Hopefully they do find him a new home, because clearly the plan B signings last summer were not great fits. As a 14 mpg back up big, like he was in Memphis, he'd be fine, but that's probably not fair to him and his talent level at this point. Nor is it cap space well spent for the Kings. And now you have young bigs needing time.

[Starting Five]

It's time to trade Cousins, but the owner will never do it the year they move into a new arena.

Everybody here knows that Cousins is a cancer in the lockeroom..it's time to part ways.

[City of Trees]

It's time to trade Cousins, but the owner will never do it the year they move into a new arena.

Everybody here knows that Cousins is a cancer in the lockeroom..it's time to part ways.

The Drive morning show on 1140 said they would take a deal of Smart, Bradley, and Crowder for Cousins

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[Jkam31]

It's time to trade Cousins, but the owner will never do it the year they move into a new arena.

Everybody here knows that Cousins is a cancer in the lockeroom..it's time to part ways.

The Drive morning show on 1140 said they would take a deal of Smart, Bradley, and Crowder for Cousins

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We better not and I'm sure DMC won't be traded if he were u trade him at draft and prepare for free agency.

And I'm taking D'Angelo Russell over all those guys. You win in this league with superstars and Russell will be one none of those Boston guys are stars or have that potential


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