Ntikilina or Smith Jr?

[JohnWillow]

I like Teodesic over both Collison & Lawson. I would be fine bringing Teodesic in. He has a great basketball IQ on the court, excellent passer and has a good enough jumper to keep the defense honest. Our young guys will benefit from Teodesic's game, imo. That being said, his biggest con is his defense. He's actually decent in one-on-one D due to his size and adequate lateral movement but his effort in fighting through screens is pretty bad.

In the past, Teodesic made 2-3 conditions for NBA teams that are interested in him:

- He will not start from the bench.
- Team needs to be competitive.
- Financially, it needs to be good.

The Kings can meet 2/3 of those conditions listed above. Not sure they can meet the "team needs to be competitive" Teodesic was very adamant in the past about this condition. I wonder what changed this year if the Kings are "legit contenders" for Teodesic.

Bogdanovic/Vlade/Peja factor maybe?

[City of Trees]

Well, today it was revealed Kings are q "serious contender " to sign Teodesic. That's probably the nugget CD was referring to, if I had to guess.

I'm totally down to sign him and draft a PG. Actually, signing Teodesic is best case if the pick is Ntilikina.

I think signing Teodesic would have more of an impact on Collison than on who the Kings draft. I mean, the guy's 30 years old. He's obviously not the PG of the future.

Of course, it would mean that DC is redundant. I think Trees was saying that Teodesic makes drafting one of these PGs easier because they don't have to be the man right away. Works especially well with a guy like Ntilikina that will need to develop like Trees said.

BTW, PLEASE SIGN WITH US MILOS!

Yeah I was getting at signing Teodosic and letting Collison/Lawson walk.

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[sacking123]

I like Teodesic over both Collison & Lawson. I would be fine bringing Teodesic in. He has a great basketball IQ on the court, excellent passer and has a good enough jumper to keep the defense honest. Our young guys will benefit from Teodesic's game, imo. That being said, his biggest con is his defense. He's actually decent in one-on-one D due to his size and adequate lateral movement but his effort in fighting through screens is pretty bad.

In the past, Teodesic made 2-3 conditions for NBA teams that are interested in him:

- He will not start from the bench.
- Team needs to be competitive.
- Financially, it needs to be good.

The Kings can meet 2/3 of those conditions listed above. Not sure they can meet the "team needs to be competitive" Teodesic was very adamant in the past about this condition. I wonder what changed this year if the Kings are "legit contenders" for Teodesic.

Bogdanovic/Vlade/Peja factor maybe?

I've got no doubt it's the Vlade factor.
I think Vlade has also sold him on only being mediocre his first year and once he, Bogdanovic and the other young guys have had a season together that is when they will make a huge jump.
And I think they can as well.
I honestly think we need to do what we can to get Jackson if Teodosic signs.
Don't worry about future drafts if we rock with
Teodosic/Galloway
Hield/Bogdanovic/Temple
Jackson/Richardson
Skal/Tolliver
WCS/Koufas/Papa G
Don't be surprised if Papa G is the starting C in 18/19 either.


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[KF10]

I like Teodesic over both Collison & Lawson. I would be fine bringing Teodesic in. He has a great basketball IQ on the court, excellent passer and has a good enough jumper to keep the defense honest. Our young guys will benefit from Teodesic's game, imo. That being said, his biggest con is his defense. He's actually decent in one-on-one D due to his size and adequate lateral movement but his effort in fighting through screens is pretty bad.

In the past, Teodesic made 2-3 conditions for NBA teams that are interested in him:

- He will not start from the bench.
- Team needs to be competitive.
- Financially, it needs to be good.

The Kings can meet 2/3 of those conditions listed above. Not sure they can meet the "team needs to be competitive" Teodesic was very adamant in the past about this condition. I wonder what changed this year if the Kings are "legit contenders" for Teodesic.

Bogdanovic/Vlade/Peja factor maybe?

Yup, most likely.

Like I said before, I like Teodosić better than both Collison & Lawson. Teodosić is a very good get, imo. He is a legitimate floor general that plays the right way.

For those that are concerned about Teodosić's age. Both Teodosić & Collison are only separated several months (last time I checked: 5 months) when looking at age. So, it isn't like Teodosić is a fossil.

[City of Trees]

Teodosic would wow the crowd like J Will
https://youtu.be/mmWHYSJ5PM0
.

Ok I know some will say, sure he can pass but look at Rubio teams will sag off. Nope.
https://youtu.be/1dBua8WwxWY
.

This is exactly the kind of vet PG I want on my team of young talent. I hope Vlade convinces him to play here. Pay that man.

Stretches of Teodosic/Hield/Bogdonavic/Skal/PapaG would be tough to guard.

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[PetrieUnderstudy]

I find it funny that some guy sends out a tweet about the Kings are a possible landing spot for Teodosic and people start getting hyped. I brought up idea of Teodosic to the Kings over a month ago and even provided reasons why I thought it could happen and it kind of got shot down on here as not possible and wouldn't be that great of a pick up. The guy can flat out pass the rock. There's a 17 minute video (SR posted it) showing all of his assists this year, impressive.

[PetrieUnderstudy]

I find it funny that some guy sends out a tweet about the Kings are a possible landing spot for Teodosic and people start getting hyped. I brought up idea of Teodosic to the Kings over a month ago and even provided reasons why I thought it could happen and it kind of got shot down on here as not possible and wouldn't be that great of a pick up. The guy can flat out pass the rock. There's a 17 minute video (SR posted it) showing all of his assists this year, impressive.

I was wrong it wasn't over a month ago, it was April 21 in the Welcome Bogdan Bogdanovic thread.

Well I hope he does end up signing here.

[City of Trees]

I find it funny that some guy sends out a tweet about the Kings are a possible landing spot for Teodosic and people start getting hyped. I brought up idea of Teodosic to the Kings over a month ago and even provided reasons why I thought it could happen and it kind of got shot down on here as not possible and wouldn't be that great of a pick up. The guy can flat out pass the rock. There's a 17 minute video (SR posted it) showing all of his assists this year, impressive.

Well the Kings suck in FA so when I hear Sacramento is a "serious contender " to sign what I see is a good player, yeah I'll get excited. Will it actually happen? Probably not.


I saw your Teodosic post back in April but chose to ignore it given the Kings history in attracting free agents. After years of disappointment as a Kings fan you learn to filter who s available in Free agency. My filter said Kings had no chance.

Good call.


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[PetrieUnderstudy]

I find it funny that some guy sends out a tweet about the Kings are a possible landing spot for Teodosic and people start getting hyped. I brought up idea of Teodosic to the Kings over a month ago and even provided reasons why I thought it could happen and it kind of got shot down on here as not possible and wouldn't be that great of a pick up. The guy can flat out pass the rock. There's a 17 minute video (SR posted it) showing all of his assists this year, impressive.

Well the Kings suck in FA so when I hear Sacramento is a "serious contender " to sign what I see is a good player, yeah I'll get excited. Will it actually happen? Probably not.

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I agree the Kings suck in FA, they've actually sucked at just about everything in recent years. I had said in the other thread if Vlade (a national hero in their country) and Peja another fellow countryman can't convince Teodosic to sign with Kings along with another countryman in Bogdanovic possibly coming over this year then I have no faith in them being able to sign anyone of significance ever in FA unless the player and/or agent is using them (kinda like Rondo) or they way overpay.

I hope Teodosic signs here. I think it would be beneficial for him and the Kings.

[City of Trees]

I agree the Kings suck in FA, they've actually sucked at just about everything in recent years. I had said in the other thread if Vlade (a national hero in their country) and Peja another fellow countryman can't convince Teodosic to sign with Kings along with another countryman in Bogdanovic possibly coming over this year then I have no faith in them being able to sign anyone of significance ever in FA unless the player and/or agent is using them (kinda like Rondo) or they way overpay.

I hope Teodosic signs here. I think it would be beneficial for him and the Kings.

I'm trying to remember the last time I had confidence in a Kings GM to sign a player of significance.

Nope, I got nothing

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[SacKingZZZ]

Interviewing Fultz to me signals that the Kings are looking at packaging those picks and moving up. I like it.

[WalterBenjamin]

Im fairly positive about the direction wher you are going if some Markanen-Vikev connection doesn't strike at you. The current draft expres mock is the ideal scenario for you. Eaven any of those two guards and Collins is a A grade draft whyle Issac is A+.

[codydaze]

I find it funny that some guy sends out a tweet about the Kings are a possible landing spot for Teodosic and people start getting hyped. I brought up idea of Teodosic to the Kings over a month ago and even provided reasons why I thought it could happen and it kind of got shot down on here as not possible and wouldn't be that great of a pick up. The guy can flat out pass the rock. There's a 17 minute video (SR posted it) showing all of his assists this year, impressive.

I was wrong it wasn't over a month ago, it was April 21 in the Welcome Bogdan Bogdanovic thread.

Well I hope he does end up signing here.

Proof that I called this in October 2016

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[benchmobbin02]

Interviewing Fultz to me signals that the Kings are looking at packaging those picks and moving up. I like it.

I don't think that necessarily signals what we are looking to do. I think we are acting like a professional team that will not only cover our bases and be prepared but will continue to mask our intentions. I bet we try to talk to every lotto guy at the combine. The team schedules the interviews at the combine, not the player.

[KF10]

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[City of Trees]

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[benchmobbin02]

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None of us will know for sure but I bet that he couldn't square the most likely conservative stop gap deal and being on a young team. One or the other could have probably worked but with the "news" we are looking for a PG of the future I doubt we were ready to invest so much in an almost 30 yr old player who isn't a great athlete to start with.

[City of Trees]

In this CD clarifies his comments about the Kings possibly opting to pass on a PG. He backpedals, says not drafting a PG is one of many scenarios the Kings FO will cover and prepare for given the uncertainty of the draft.

http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2017/05/12/carmichael-dave-deaaron-fox-could-be-the-real-deal/

So Fox's comments on the Kings wanting to find their PG of the future is probably more accurate. Still holding out hope for Teodosic.

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[SacKingZZZ]

Interviewing Fultz to me signals that the Kings are looking at packaging those picks and moving up. I like it.

I don't think that necessarily signals what we are looking to do. I think we are acting like a professional team that will not only cover our bases and be prepared but will continue to mask our intentions. I bet we try to talk to every lotto guy at the combine. The team schedules the interviews at the combine, not the player.

Most teams that low don't GET THE CHANCE to talk to the potential number 1 pick. The Kings also have literally no chance at getting that pick via the lottery so it much speak to the possibility of the potential of moving up.

[SacKingZZZ]

In this CD clarifies his comments about the Kings possibly opting to pass on a PG. He backpedals, says not drafting a PG is one of many scenarios the Kings FO will cover and prepare for given the uncertainty of the draft.

http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2017/05/12/carmichael-dave-deaaron-fox-could-be-the-real-deal/

So Fox's comments on the Kings wanting to find their PG of the future is probably more accurate. Still holding out hope for Teodosic.

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I hope the Kings somehow get Fox. I think he is the most perfect fit possible for the team moving forward next to the young pieces the Kings have to move forward with. Potential wise he might not be on the Ball/Fultz level, but if he gets a solid jumper he could very well surpass them both.