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Post#61 » by Jkam31 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:50 pm

The Gentry angle is huge can easily put us at number one destination for him. If he loves Gentry like that he can tell other teams he won’t resign there and we’d only have to give up barnes/huerter/1st.
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Post#62 » by Jkam31 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:52 pm

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Depending on the price, I really like Ingram here. He gas faults but I think what he brings would really help us.


We need iso scorers for the playoffs Fox alone doesn’t cut it to compete vs Dallas, denver, okc, NYK or Boston. With Ingram we are legit championship contenders also with another scorer Fox plate gets less and he can become a better defender more often
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Post#63 » by BoogieTime » Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:55 pm

Jkam31 wrote:The Gentry angle is huge can easily put us at number one destination for him. If he loves Gentry like that he can tell other teams he won’t resign there and we’d only have to give up barnes/huerter/1st.


Gentry is an old, periphery front office/personnel guy who is probably expiring with the timing of his coaches contract without much of a role in Sacramento...
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Post#64 » by OxAndFox » Mon Jul 1, 2024 12:17 am

If the Bulls are attaching a 1st to Lavine then you need to think about it.
Barnes/Huerter for Lavine/1st.
I would say it would be the Portland 1st.
2025 first round draft pick from Portland. Lotto protected until 2028.
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Post#65 » by BoogieTime » Mon Jul 1, 2024 12:28 am

OxAndFox wrote:If the Bulls are attaching a 1st to Lavine then you need to think about it.
Barnes/Huerter for Lavine/1st.
I would say it would be the Portland 1st.
2025 first round draft pick from Portland. Lotto protected until 2028.


We are going to have problems with Ellis/monk/carter now. It ended with the draft
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Post#66 » by Jkam31 » Mon Jul 1, 2024 12:34 am

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Jkam31 wrote:The Gentry angle is huge can easily put us at number one destination for him. If he loves Gentry like that he can tell other teams he won’t resign there and we’d only have to give up barnes/huerter/1st.


Gentry is an old, periphery front office/personnel guy who is probably expiring with the timing of his coaches contract without much of a role in Sacramento...


Tweet is making it seem that gentry is still employed
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Post#67 » by OxAndFox » Mon Jul 1, 2024 12:34 am

BoogieTime wrote:
OxAndFox wrote:If the Bulls are attaching a 1st to Lavine then you need to think about it.
Barnes/Huerter for Lavine/1st.
I would say it would be the Portland 1st.
2025 first round draft pick from Portland. Lotto protected until 2028.


We are going to have problems with Ellis/monk/carter now. It ended with the draft


If they had an interest in Caruso/Lavine then it doesn't change anything. You are just subbing out Caruso for Carter.
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Re: 24-25 Trade Thread 

Post#68 » by madskillz8 » Mon Jul 1, 2024 1:47 am

Be careful what you wish for:

Getting Ingram means we would be locked up for years with Fox / Monk / Keegan / Ingram / Sabonis with little bench and no draft picks (+ huge luxury tax). Take into account the injury risk of Ingram, I am not sure if I'd like that.

If Ingram or Lavine are the only options, trade Huerter + a pick swap (or trade 1 FRP) for J.Grant and call it a day: Fox / Monk / Keegan / J. Grant / Sabonis with Barnes, Ellis, Lyles, Carter, Len + NTPML while controlling almost all picks + future flexibility. I'd say the difference is marginal and Grants rim protection is more valuable next to Sabonis.
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Post#69 » by blind prophet » Mon Jul 1, 2024 1:53 am

madskillz8 wrote:Be careful what you wish for:

Getting Ingram means we would be locked up for years with Fox / Monk / Keegan / Ingram / Sabonis with little bench and no draft picks (+ huge luxury tax). Take into account the injury risk of Ingram, I am not sure if I'd like that.

If Ingram or Lavine are the only options, trade Huerter + a pick swap (or trade 1 FRP) for J.Grant and call it a day: Fox / Monk / Keegan / J. Grant / Sabonis with Barnes, Ellis, Lyles, Carter, Len + NTPML while controlling almost all picks + future flexibility. I'd say the difference is marginal and Grants rim protection is more valuable next to Sabonis.


Well Ingram expires.

So sending out assets and him walking later is a concern.

But, it not working out and him expiring in a way is also comforting knowing we aren't committing anything beyond the assets to get him here.
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Post#70 » by BoogieTime » Mon Jul 1, 2024 2:26 am

We are the front runners, apparently Barnes and draft capital being mentioned
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Post#71 » by Jkam31 » Mon Jul 1, 2024 2:47 am

BoogieTime wrote:We are the front runners, apparently Barnes and draft capital being mentioned


Saying they want a center we need to find a team to take Huerter and a pick for a center. Isiah Stewart can be a guy used to send to NO
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Re: 24-25 Trade Thread 

Post#72 » by codydaze » Mon Jul 1, 2024 2:58 am

Jkam31 wrote:
BoogieTime wrote:We are the front runners, apparently Barnes and draft capital being mentioned


Saying they want a center we need to find a team to take Huerter and a pick for a center. Isiah Stewart can be a guy used to send to NO


Feel like that makes a lot sense for all three teams.
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Post#73 » by Jkam31 » Mon Jul 1, 2024 3:10 am

madskillz8 wrote:Be careful what you wish for:

Getting Ingram means we would be locked up for years with Fox / Monk / Keegan / Ingram / Sabonis with little bench and no draft picks (+ huge luxury tax). Take into account the injury risk of Ingram, I am not sure if I'd like that.

If Ingram or Lavine are the only options, trade Huerter + a pick swap (or trade 1 FRP) for J.Grant and call it a day: Fox / Monk / Keegan / J. Grant / Sabonis with Barnes, Ellis, Lyles, Carter, Len + NTPML while controlling almost all picks + future flexibility. I'd say the difference is marginal and Grants rim protection is more valuable next to Sabonis.


Ingram makes us title contenders so ya I’m good with that we’d be adding a 20/5/5 player who create in iso which we lack outside of fox. Every championship team had a strong sobering wing outside GSW we need one and ingram isn’t a defensive liability. Our closing lineup defense on the perimeter would be strong Fox, ellis, ingram, Keegan.

Also we saw fox takes his game to the next level in the playoffs so there’s that and if Sabonis is disappearing we’ll we got a 20 ppg player
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Post#74 » by FarBeyondDriven » Mon Jul 1, 2024 7:39 pm

Jkam31 wrote:
madskillz8 wrote:Be careful what you wish for:

Getting Ingram means we would be locked up for years with Fox / Monk / Keegan / Ingram / Sabonis with little bench and no draft picks (+ huge luxury tax). Take into account the injury risk of Ingram, I am not sure if I'd like that.

If Ingram or Lavine are the only options, trade Huerter + a pick swap (or trade 1 FRP) for J.Grant and call it a day: Fox / Monk / Keegan / J. Grant / Sabonis with Barnes, Ellis, Lyles, Carter, Len + NTPML while controlling almost all picks + future flexibility. I'd say the difference is marginal and Grants rim protection is more valuable next to Sabonis.


Ingram makes us title contenders so ya I’m good with that we’d be adding a 20/5/5 player who create in iso which we lack outside of fox. Every championship team had a strong sobering wing outside GSW we need one and ingram isn’t a defensive liability. Our closing lineup defense on the perimeter would be strong Fox, ellis, ingram, Keegan.

Also we saw fox takes his game to the next level in the playoffs so there’s that and if Sabonis is disappearing we’ll we got a 20 ppg player


stop. absolutely not. You people believe his addition is in a vacuum not taking into consideration what it costs (player, draft picks, future moves due to salary cap) and how long it takes for new players to integrate into a new system. He misses a crazy amount of games every season. He isn't a strong defender. He's got a "too cool for school" attitude that is off-putting. If he was truly a dynamic player the Pelicans wouldn't be so willing to allow him to move as he enters his prime. That's not how things operate in the NBA.
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Post#75 » by OGSactownballer » Mon Jul 1, 2024 7:51 pm

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FarBeyondDriven wrote:
Jkam31 wrote:
madskillz8 wrote:Be careful what you wish for:

Getting Ingram means we would be locked up for years with Fox / Monk / Keegan / Ingram / Sabonis with little bench and no draft picks (+ huge luxury tax). Take into account the injury risk of Ingram, I am not sure if I'd like that.

If Ingram or Lavine are the only options, trade Huerter + a pick swap (or trade 1 FRP) for J.Grant and call it a day: Fox / Monk / Keegan / J. Grant / Sabonis with Barnes, Ellis, Lyles, Carter, Len + NTPML while controlling almost all picks + future flexibility. I'd say the difference is marginal and Grants rim protection is more valuable next to Sabonis.


Ingram makes us title contenders so ya I’m good with that we’d be adding a 20/5/5 player who create in iso which we lack outside of fox. Every championship team had a strong sobering wing outside GSW we need one and ingram isn’t a defensive liability. Our closing lineup defense on the perimeter would be strong Fox, ellis, ingram, Keegan.

Also we saw fox takes his game to the next level in the playoffs so there’s that and if Sabonis is disappearing we’ll we got a 20 ppg player


stop. absolutely not. You people believe his addition is in a vacuum not taking into consideration what it costs (player, draft picks, future moves due to salary cap) and how long it takes for new players to integrate into a new system. He misses a crazy amount of games every season. He isn't a strong defender. He's got a "too cool for school" attitude that is off-putting. If he was truly a dynamic player the Pelicans wouldn't be so willing to allow him to move as he enters his prime. That's not how things operate in the NBA.


Hmmmmm.

So pretty much like a young Chris Webber when he first came here.

Wonder how that worked out?
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Re: 24-25 Trade Thread 

Post#76 » by Jkam31 » Mon Jul 1, 2024 8:47 pm

FarBeyondDriven wrote:
Jkam31 wrote:
madskillz8 wrote:Be careful what you wish for:

Getting Ingram means we would be locked up for years with Fox / Monk / Keegan / Ingram / Sabonis with little bench and no draft picks (+ huge luxury tax). Take into account the injury risk of Ingram, I am not sure if I'd like that.

If Ingram or Lavine are the only options, trade Huerter + a pick swap (or trade 1 FRP) for J.Grant and call it a day: Fox / Monk / Keegan / J. Grant / Sabonis with Barnes, Ellis, Lyles, Carter, Len + NTPML while controlling almost all picks + future flexibility. I'd say the difference is marginal and Grants rim protection is more valuable next to Sabonis.


Ingram makes us title contenders so ya I’m good with that we’d be adding a 20/5/5 player who create in iso which we lack outside of fox. Every championship team had a strong sobering wing outside GSW we need one and ingram isn’t a defensive liability. Our closing lineup defense on the perimeter would be strong Fox, ellis, ingram, Keegan.

Also we saw fox takes his game to the next level in the playoffs so there’s that and if Sabonis is disappearing we’ll we got a 20 ppg player


stop. absolutely not. You people believe his addition is in a vacuum not taking into consideration what it costs (player, draft picks, future moves due to salary cap) and how long it takes for new players to integrate into a new system. He misses a crazy amount of games every season. He isn't a strong defender. He's got a "too cool for school" attitude that is off-putting. If he was truly a dynamic player the Pelicans wouldn't be so willing to allow him to move as he enters his prime. That's not how things operate in the NBA.


Ingram isn’t a bad defender that’s all that matters we Jen you’re going a team 20/5/5 and are a top scorer you just need to be passable on defense. We’d have ellis, Carter, and Keegan as defenders that’s pretty good as long as Sabonis isn’t a negative.

Or we can go to battle with what we have plus Cam Johnson and be a 7-8 seed again while waiting to trade after we extend fox/keegan
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Post#77 » by FarBeyondDriven » Mon Jul 1, 2024 9:44 pm

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Jkam31 wrote:
Ingram makes us title contenders so ya I’m good with that we’d be adding a 20/5/5 player who create in iso which we lack outside of fox. Every championship team had a strong sobering wing outside GSW we need one and ingram isn’t a defensive liability. Our closing lineup defense on the perimeter would be strong Fox, ellis, ingram, Keegan.

Also we saw fox takes his game to the next level in the playoffs so there’s that and if Sabonis is disappearing we’ll we got a 20 ppg player


stop. absolutely not. You people believe his addition is in a vacuum not taking into consideration what it costs (player, draft picks, future moves due to salary cap) and how long it takes for new players to integrate into a new system. He misses a crazy amount of games every season. He isn't a strong defender. He's got a "too cool for school" attitude that is off-putting. If he was truly a dynamic player the Pelicans wouldn't be so willing to allow him to move as he enters his prime. That's not how things operate in the NBA.


Hmmmmm.

So pretty much like a young Chris Webber when he first came here.

Wonder how that worked out?


oh no...did you just compare Ingram to Webber lmao? The equivalent would be if we sent out either Fox or Sabonis for Ingram. You're comparing apples and bananas and people are upvoting this? :lol:
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Post#78 » by BoogieTime » Mon Jul 1, 2024 10:00 pm

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Lauri is obviously better. Much better impact player than the other names being mentioned, but cost is cost. If Ingram is literally only going to cost 2-3 picks and Lauri twice that, which way to go?

In fact this says the Jazz are requiring Keegan most likely.. Ingram could be had without Keegan though
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Post#79 » by Jkam31 » Mon Jul 1, 2024 10:13 pm

BoogieTime wrote:
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Lauri is obviously better. Much better impact player than the other names being mentioned, but cost is cost. If Ingram is literally only going to cost 2-3 picks and Lauri twice that, which way to go?

In fact this says the Jazz are requiring Keegan most likely.. Ingram could be had without Keegan though


Keegan ain’t going anywhere but the answer here is still ingram. Cost included it’s basically Ingram/Carter vs Lauri I’d take the later with our defense being better with ingram and Carter.
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Post#80 » by OxAndFox » Mon Jul 1, 2024 10:25 pm

You don't give up Keegan in a Lauri trade. When you factor in both sides of the ball Lauri isn't THAT much ahead of Keegan.
Different players yes, but give me the kid that can defend at a really good level.

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