Bibby to Atlanta for Shelden Williams and filler

SactownHrtBrks8 · Post #61 » by **SactownHrtBrks8** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:22 pm

He will at least give us another tough guy and will be able to set a mean screen. I doubt anyone wants to mess with SWilliams, that guys a beast

UKF · Post #62 » by **UKF** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:25 pm

Wow KIE...

but Im to pumped about the Kings deal to criticize the way the boards are ran. Good job KIE!

So what number will Sheldon Williams be sporting?

Ballings7 · Post #63 » by **Ballings7** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:25 pm

From what I've seen and heard of Shelden he's been up and down, as expected (especially with a sporadic, limited oppurtunity to play and develop with who else was on the Hawks), but those ups are intriguing for what type of big man he is. I've always liked him a lot going back to his senior year at Duke. He has ability and up-side on both ends of the floor. More defensively than offensively, of course - but that is perfectly fine with me.

I think Shelden can really bring what this team's been lacking for years.

sk916 wrote:With Hawes at C we need a PF to be a little quicker and athletic,

Well, I'd say that'll come in one of the next two drafts. Quite possibly this year because of the depth of bigs in the draft.

Shelden's more of a center anyway, and Justin's more of a PF than a C.

ZenBaller · Post #64 » by **ZenBaller** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:31 pm

GOOD TRADE!

Now we can finally bench Moore forever!

SactownHrtBrks8 · Post #65 » by **SactownHrtBrks8** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:33 pm

ZenBaller wrote:GOOD TRADE!

Now we can finally bench Moore forever!

I like him for 20 off the bench.

sacstar16 · Post #66 » by **sacstar16** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:38 pm

I'm going to miss Bibby a lot. He was great to have on our team but it's time for us and him to move on.

1st step in rebuilding

freshie2 · Post #67 » by **freshie2** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:43 pm

Are you done now?? Are the Artest rumors legitimate? Just seems like this is a two footed jump into rebuilding mode, and you still have some chips to deal.

Dustin5566 · Post #68 » by **Dustin5566** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:44 pm

I think i am so against it because Bibby is the last player from the glory days! Miller came in at the end so he is not truly part of the glory years.

This is truly a dump in every since of the word.

Well lets make the run at Derrick Rose!

Artest to Miami for there #1 pick.....

Ballings7 · Post #69 » by **Ballings7** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:49 pm

freshie2 wrote:Are the Artest rumors legitimate?

No.

And if you know about them (wiretap), and have to ask about it - they aren't.

Post #70 » by **dms269** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:51 pm

I have always been a fan of Shelden. He did not deserve the heat he got from the fans. Woody refused to play him, so his minutes are very up and down. When given the minutes, he has produced. The problem is that he would have a 15 mpg day, 3 mpg, 20 mpg, then 3 straight dnp.

PaKwAn · Post #71 » by **PaKwAn** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:52 pm

I hope Petrie's got some other plans for us to rebuild. I'm pissed that we cant get a future pick. Oh well here's what sheldon can do

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKHGJurEWQc

Ballings7 · Post #72 » by **Ballings7** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:52 pm

I have always been a fan of Shelden. He did not deserve the heat he got from the fans. Woody refused to play him, so his minutes are very up and down. When given the minutes, he has produced. The problem is that he would have a 15 mpg day, 3 mpg, 20 mpg, then 3 straight dnp.

Yup. Like I've said.

DDV · Post #73 » by **DDV** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:54 pm

im not a king fan but im just wodnering why the kigns waited this long to rebuild and get rid of bibby and artest?

they prboably cost themselves a high pick

Ballings7 · Post #74 » by **Ballings7** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:01 pm

Ron Artest isn't traded yet, and there's nothing legitimate that says he will be, yet.

Something actually serious has to emerge first. Nothing has been the whole season, so far, except for that three-way trade with LA/Chi/Sac back in the Fall. NY and Denver stuff, hasn't been anything more than just talk and rehash from the media, and exploratory talks.

eagles nut · Post #75 » by **eagles nut** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:31 pm

What players are you guys going to cut to get down to 15 players?

Post #76 » by **HMFFL** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:33 pm

Here is the AJC article

Hawks to trade 4 players for Kings' Bibby

Could a four-for-one deal completed Saturday finally net the Hawks the point guard they've coveted?

Hawks captain and All-Star Joe Johnson certainly hopes so.

The Hawks have agreed in principle to trade for Sacramento veteran Mike Bibby, sending veteran point guards Anthony Johnson and Tyronn Lue back to the Kings, along with second-year forward Shelden Williams and veteran center Lorenzen Wright.

The deal is expected to be finalized Saturday afternoon, a person familiar with the situation told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. Officials from the Hawks, Kings and NBA will participate in a 4 p.m. conference call.

Bibby could join the Hawks in time for Tuesday's game against the Los Angeles Lakers, the first of five straight road games against Western Conference teams. The next night, the Hawks face the Kings in Sacramento.

"This is another huge step for us," Johnson said Saturday while preparing to play in Sunday's 57th NBA All-Star Game. "You're talking about a guy who can make shots and can run a team. He embodies all the things we've wanted in a veteran point guard and he's also a guy that's known for taking and making big shots.

"And you can never have too many guys like that in the NBA. As tough as it is to see guys like Lue, A.J., 'Ren and Shelden leave, we all realize that this is a business and decisions are made and you make the best of things and move on. But there's no doubt we're getting a guy that can help make us better."

Link

mr.basketball · Post #77 » by **mr.basketball** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:35 pm

Before this 4 for 1 happens, the Kings need to waive 2 players since they are @ 14 now.

~73aLL372~ · Post #78 » by **~73aLL372~** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:37 pm

This is a GREAT trade for the Sacramento kings for a couuple of reasons:

1. More money, more money, more money for the future
2. Pretty much says Ron Artest will be gone after this season so more moeny for free agency once again!
3. Sheldon Willims, a great PF that IMHO should start and will get great minutes.
4. We will probably get worse and lose more games meaning better draft pcik baby!
5. More potential in the team and players.

Dustin5566 · Post #79 » by **Dustin5566** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:38 pm

mr.basketball wrote:Before this 4 for 1 happens, the Kings need to waive 2 players since they are @ 14 now.

Most likely D Jones and hopefully buyout Kenny Thomas.

I cant see them waiving Beno so maybe they will waive one of the incoming hawks...Ty Lue

_SRV_ · Post #80 » by **_SRV_** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:42 pm

I don't get people saying Ron is gone this offseason.
This is exactly the deal that gives Petrie the option of re-signing Artest, Artest will be re-signed IMO, or at least S&T, this trade gives the Kings a whole lot more room for operation next summer, I love it.
Bibby was great, I loved him, but we were trying to force fitting him in the team when clearly there were better options for 14 million dollars from our cap.