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Re: Would you rather.. 

Post#61 » by Dustin5566 » Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:29 am

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Next question:

If we get to the mid-season at a .500 or better level, do we then scrap the 2010 cap space plan and package all or a lot of those guys to obtain a star-caliber player NOW and try to accelerate the re-build into more immediate contention? Or do we continue the steady plan knowing that it will probably give a longer term of solid playoff contention but take two or three years longer?


If it is a sure fire deal that makes up better than I think we go for it, just because 2010 will be a crapshoot with all the teams that will have space.

next question: What would be better this year: Kevin Martin makes the All-Star team or Jason Thompson wins Rookie of the Year.
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Post#62 » by Draft2007 » Mon Aug 18, 2008 3:04 am

It would be better if Jason Thompson wins the Rookie of the Year. We all know Kevin is an all-star quality player already. He can come out and have an all-star type of year but with the guards in the West (CP3, Kobe, Deron, Roy, McGrady, etc) but he still might not make it. However, if Jason wins ROY he will have greatly exceeded expectations and give us another high quality player to build on.

Next question: At the peak of his career, what type of numbers do you expect from Donte Green?
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Post#63 » by KF10 » Mon Aug 18, 2008 3:44 am

Draft2007 wrote:It would be better if Jason Thompson wins the Rookie of the Year. We all know Kevin is an all-star quality player already. He can come out and have an all-star type of year but with the guards in the West (CP3, Kobe, Deron, Roy, McGrady, etc) but he still might not make it. However, if Jason wins ROY he will have greatly exceeded expectations and give us another high quality player to build on.

Next question: At the peak of his career, what type of numbers do you expect from Donte Green?


Probably same as Lewis' but a more defensive minded player Lewis-version. In in his prime, he perhaps average 23/7/3/1/1 with good defense and shotblocking.

Question:

What do we expect from Sheldon Williams this year?
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Post#64 » by mobiuseinz » Mon Aug 18, 2008 4:24 am

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Probably same as Lewis' but a more defensive minded player Lewis-version. In in his prime, he perhaps average 23/7/3/1/1 with good defense and shotblocking.

Question:

What do we expect from Sheldon Williams this year?


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Post#65 » by Inc » Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:02 am

Jessica Biel, easy.


Q: Jessica Alba with Sam Cassell's face or Brad Pitt.
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Post#66 » by mobiuseinz » Mon Aug 18, 2008 7:19 am

Inc wrote:Jessica Biel, easy.


Q: Jessica Alba with Sam Cassell's face or Brad Pitt.


**** tough... but at least you can cover the face with a black bag or something it still has Alba's body... doing a dude would be gay

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Post#67 » by OGSactownballer » Tue Aug 19, 2008 1:09 am

Whether it sounds gay or not, I could always get counseling and stay intact - give me the one time gang rape.

Q: OK, this is all getting off topic (Kings) but while watching the women's gymnastics recap last night, do you think that Bela Karoyli (sp?) was sincere in his defense of the girl who was shafted with the fourth place spot by going first, or was he just justifying the fact that at 20 years old and developing into a woman's body, she is out of the "range" for top level female gynasts?
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Post#68 » by Dustin5566 » Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:29 am

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Q: OK, this is all getting off topic (Kings) but while watching the women's gymnastics recap last night, do you think that Bela Karoyli (sp?) was sincere in his defense of the girl who was shafted with the fourth place spot by going first, or was he just justifying the fact that at 20 years old and developing into a woman's body, she is out of the "range" for top level female gynasts?


Not sure about Sacramone because I did not see it, but Liukin got royally screwed on the uneven bars. For the most part the scoring at these games have been a joke.

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Post#69 » by OGSactownballer » Wed Aug 20, 2008 2:36 am

Absolutely.

Do you think that Carmelo will be INVITED back for 2012 (just because he wants to go doesn't mean anything)?
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Post#70 » by new don » Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:08 am

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Do you think that Carmelo will be INVITED back for 2012 (just because he wants to go doesn't mean anything)?


Sure. Sad thing is only because of his hype in America he'll be invited.

Do you think Petrie will walk for a much better deal when his contracts up?
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Post#71 » by KF10 » Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:30 am

new don wrote:
OGSactownballer wrote:
Do you think that Carmelo will be INVITED back for 2012 (just because he wants to go doesn't mean anything)?


Sure. Sad thing is only because of his hype in America he'll be invited.

Do you think Petrie will walk for a much better deal when his contracts up?



I'm pretty sure that the Maloofs will outbid anyone for Petrie. The Maloofs and Petrie are close.

Question:

Will Shareef retire or play in limited minutes next season?
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Post#72 » by mobiuseinz » Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:47 am

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new don wrote:
OGSactownballer wrote:
Do you think that Carmelo will be INVITED back for 2012 (just because he wants to go doesn't mean anything)?


Sure. Sad thing is only because of his hype in America he'll be invited.

Do you think Petrie will walk for a much better deal when his contracts up?



I'm pretty sure that the Maloofs will outbid anyone for Petrie. The Maloofs and Petrie are close.

Question:

Will Shareef retire or play in limited minutes next season?



I hope that he retires... but thats only hoping... in reality I think he'll stay.

Q: In hindsight do you think that it was a dumb move signing Abdur-Rahim (eventhough the Nest said he would have knee issues... and lookie here)
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Post#73 » by new don » Wed Aug 20, 2008 7:12 am

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Q: In hindsight do you think that it was a dumb move signing Abdur-Rahim (eventhough the Nest said he would have knee issues... and lookie here)


No not really ....remember now SAR was a starter and logged good minutes and contributed so much for us while kenny was becoming not even serviceable anymore. Petrie knew we needed to do something quick to make some sense of our PF spot. And SAR was the best out their at the time. We didnt have a fairy tale ending because Musslehead was the coach *argh the memories*

Q: Are you satisfy about the artest trade?? And does not trading him to the knicks really makes the huston trade worth the wait? Considering what we wanted from the knicks? Lee + garbage + a protected pick. And is it safe to say already that Greene>>>>>Lee?? 3 part question :lol:
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Post#74 » by King Baller » Wed Aug 20, 2008 7:56 pm

Lee would just add to the log jam at the 4. Lee is a nice rebounder but Sheldon plays better defense. With Moore, Sheldon, Jason, SAR (If healthly) KT (On the bench) and sometimes Brad at the 4 where would Lee play?

Petrie got some nice assets back in the Artest deal. Bobby can play and is valuable as a leader. His trade value is pretty good if a team needs a PG. Green is a First rounder and is all upside at this point. And a late first rounder can be a future quality player or a bargaining chip in another trade. So Petrie gets an A in my estimation.

If the starters are Brad, Moore, Salmons, KMart and Beno who are the 6,7,8 and 9 guys most nights?

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Post#75 » by Ballings7 » Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:39 pm

the new don wrote:No not really ....remember now SAR was a starter and logged good minutes and contributed so much for us while kenny was becoming not even serviceable anymore. Petrie knew we needed to do something quick to make some sense of our PF spot. And SAR was the best out their at the time. We didnt have a fairy tale ending because Musslehead was the coach *argh the memories*


Indeed.

But what you're leaving out is Kenny played great when SAR went down in late December with that jaw injury. And he was a key part of the team's success when we began the playoff run when Ron came onto the team, especially defensively and on the glass. Then, Kenny hurt his shoulder in late March (which wasn't publicized much, strangely) and it brought down his play into the playoffs. Also the Spurs size played a part, as well, I'd say. He only gained more respect from me playing hurt, and while not playing like he can, still was passable.

After that season in 06-07, he was the starter for the first 2-3 months, still played pretty well for what he can do in the first two months, but not quite as good as previous seasons, and was inconsistent for stretches. Then, his playing time and role began to decrease from Jan. 2007 on, and stopped playing after the earlyish part of the 3rd qtr, Corliss/SAR taking over, and then somewhere within January/February, he got his leg injury (ankle or knee), and then sat out for the year the last couple months. Hasn't had any role with us really since, obviously being used sparingly, and not in the teams plans.

I think Kenny can get his career back on track once he's in a more favorable team situation. He's had and will continue to have lots of time off being on this team. Regardless, he's already had a respectable NBA career as a complementary player (production and money-wise).
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Post#76 » by Inc » Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:03 am

King Baller wrote:Lee would just add to the log jam at the 4. Lee is a nice rebounder but Sheldon plays better defense. With Moore, Sheldon, Jason, SAR (If healthly) KT (On the bench) and sometimes Brad at the 4 where would Lee play?

Petrie got some nice assets back in the Artest deal. Bobby can play and is valuable as a leader. His trade value is pretty good if a team needs a PG. Green is a First rounder and is all upside at this point. And a late first rounder can be a future quality player or a bargaining chip in another trade. So Petrie gets an A in my estimation.

If the starters are Brad, Moore, Salmons, KMart and Beno who are the 6,7,8 and 9 guys most nights?

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6 - Francisco Garcia
7 - Spencer Hawes
8 - Bobby Jackson
9 - Shelden Williams or Jason Thompson (I hope it's Thompson)


Q: Which rookie do you want to succeed more, Thompson, Greene or Brown? Who WILL be better in the future?
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Post#77 » by new don » Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:16 am

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the new don wrote:No not really ....remember now SAR was a starter and logged good minutes and contributed so much for us while kenny was becoming not even serviceable anymore. Petrie knew we needed to do something quick to make some sense of our PF spot. And SAR was the best out their at the time. We didnt have a fairy tale ending because Musslehead was the coach *argh the memories*


Indeed.

But what you're leaving out is Kenny played great when SAR went down in late December with that jaw injury. And he was a key part of the team's success when we began the playoff run when Ron came onto the team, especially defensively and on the glass. Then, Kenny hurt his shoulder in late March (which wasn't publicized much, strangely) and it brought down his play into the playoffs. Also the Spurs size played a part, as well, I'd say. He only gained more respect from me playing hurt, and while not playing like he can, still was passable.

After that season in 06-07, he was the starter for the first 2-3 months, still played pretty well for what he can do in the first two months, but not quite as good as previous seasons, and was inconsistent for stretches. Then, his playing time and role began to decrease from Jan. 2007 on, and stopped playing after the earlyish part of the 3rd qtr, Corliss/SAR taking over, and then somewhere within January/February, he got his leg injury (ankle or knee), and then sat out for the year the last couple months. Hasn't had any role with us really since, obviously being used sparingly, and not in the teams plans.

I think Kenny can get his career back on track once he's in a more favorable team situation. He's had and will continue to have lots of time off being on this team. Regardless, he's already had a respectable NBA career as a complementary player (production and money-wise).


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Post#78 » by new don » Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:18 am

Inc wrote:
Q: Which rookie do you want to succeed more, Thompson, Greene or Brown? Who WILL be better in the future?


I think Greene SF's with his size and skills set normally intend to become real good. But i'm gonna go with Brown. Simply because we need a new young PG

Q: Should the kings take more of a scouting look on Patrick Mills the young PG from Australia? And what do you think is his limit is going to be
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Post#79 » by KF10 » Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:18 am

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the new don wrote:No not really ....remember now SAR was a starter and logged good minutes and contributed so much for us while kenny was becoming not even serviceable anymore. Petrie knew we needed to do something quick to make some sense of our PF spot. And SAR was the best out their at the time. We didnt have a fairy tale ending because Musslehead was the coach *argh the memories*


Indeed.

But what you're leaving out is Kenny played great when SAR went down in late December with that jaw injury. And he was a key part of the team's success when we began the playoff run when Ron came onto the team, especially defensively and on the glass. Then, Kenny hurt his shoulder in late March (which wasn't publicized much, strangely) and it brought down his play into the playoffs. Also the Spurs size played a part, as well, I'd say. He only gained more respect from me playing hurt, and while not playing like he can, still was passable.

After that season in 06-07, he was the starter for the first 2-3 months, still played pretty well for what he can do in the first two months, but not quite as good as previous seasons, and was inconsistent for stretches. Then, his playing time and role began to decrease from Jan. 2007 on, and stopped playing after the earlyish part of the 3rd qtr, Corliss/SAR taking over, and then somewhere within January/February, he got his leg injury (ankle or knee), and then sat out for the year the last couple months. Hasn't had any role with us really since, obviously being used sparingly, and not in the teams plans.

I think Kenny can get his career back on track once he's in a more favorable team situation. He's had and will continue to have lots of time off being on this team. Regardless, he's already had a respectable NBA career as a complementary player (production and money-wise).


Yeah, I agree with you Ballings. It seems that we are the few or only people that believes that Thomas could turn his career around.

Well, to add to your post, I say that when we acquired Thomas from the Webber deal, he was very solid for us. He averaged 14.5/8.7/2.9/1 Only in 29 minutes. He played a large role for that playoff contention. Eventually, we got eliminated by the Sonics in 5 games. Next year, he was competing with Shareef with minutes and as well as injuries like you stated. And we know what happened next. Thomas' production just went DOWN due to injuries, inconsistency, and etc.

Well, I could say that Theus played a big role on Thomas' production this year. Theus even said to him he is not in the team's furure plans.

Thomas recently was told he is not in the team's plans, the word from on high relayed through coach Reggie Theus. As if enough messages hadn't already been sent.


Theus forced Thomas to become a post player so we keep post feeding him. We know that Thomas is a perimeter type of PF. And obviously, Thomas doesn't have a post game. And we knew that this would be an ugly sequence in offense.

But Thomas' demotion from unwanted contributor to highly paid benchwarmer came quickly, and Thomas knows his unofficial end in Sacramento has arrived. His early play under Theus was a failed experiment at running the offense from the inside out, with Theus dumping the ball down low to Thomas, a player never known for his post moves. During the best of times with the 76ers, Thomas was a respected finisher around the basket who could step out and hit the midrange jump shot.


Yeah, eventually, Thomas is in the doghouse for the rest of the season due to his "lack of post skill" and inconsistent play. He IMO was mistakenly misjudged as a BAD player. In a right situation, he is a dbl-dbl threat with solid defense and hustle every night.

I think most people view Thomas as a bad player due to limited perspective and history about him. People will say "He needs a miracle to even get on to the court" "He sucks and a cancer" "Worst player ever" etc. People like that doesn't even know why Thomas is in the doghouse in the first place.

But as is right now, Thomas is being a professional. He does not complain playing time anymore or etc...

"This is where I'm at now," he said. "I've got to still stay in shape, because you never know what's going to happen, either if it's here or wherever it is, Europe or wherever. I've still got to maintain my sanity, which is working out, being professional.

"I have so much more positive stuff in my life than to let one situation get me down. … I'm trying to play hard. It's just a matter of when my time's going to come."


Too bad Thomas will have a slim to no chance in the court next year. He can be productive but not in this situation.
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Post#80 » by KF10 » Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:42 am

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Inc wrote:
Q: Which rookie do you want to succeed more, Thompson, Greene or Brown? Who WILL be better in the future?


I think Greene SF's with his size and skills set normally intend to become real good. But i'm gonna go with Brown. Simply because we need a new young PG

Q: Should the kings take more of a scouting look on Patrick Mills the young PG from Australia? And what do you think is his limit is going to be


Well, I haven't seen Mills yet but I heard he has good potential though. Supposedly, he is fast. iirc Kobe said that he didn't even want to guard him in the Olympics.

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