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Re: Official 2008 Draft Night Thread...the future is now. 

Post#701 » by VeeJay24 » Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:52 am

mitchweber wrote:Also, I don't know who said it, but there is a part of me that thinks that maybe it was a way to get Ewing here as our big man coach. At least I think it's not a crazy thought.


But don't you think; depending on how much Petrie likes Ewing Jr., that it also could signal that either Artest or Salmons will be moved?
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Re: Official 2008 Draft Night Thread...the future is now. 

Post#702 » by pillwenney » Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:59 am

VeeJay24 wrote:
mitchweber wrote:Also, I don't know who said it, but there is a part of me that thinks that maybe it was a way to get Ewing here as our big man coach. At least I think it's not a crazy thought.


But don't you think; depending on how much Petrie likes Ewing Jr., that it also could signal that either Artest or Salmons will be moved?


Ehh, not really--2nd rounders barely ever signal anything like that. And at this point it's like, we have a glut, so adding to it isn't going to make a huge difference.
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Re: Official 2008 Draft Night Thread...the future is now. 

Post#703 » by SacKingZZZ » Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:24 am

mitchweber wrote:Also, I don't know who said it, but there is a part of me that thinks that maybe it was a way to get Ewing here as our big man coach. At least I think it's not a crazy thought.


I actually thought that when he was drafted. I wonder if we could pry him away from the Magic? He would be a great coach for Thompson. They have similar games.
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Post#704 » by UKF » Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:26 am

Jason Thompson
- I like most of you would have prefered to trade our 12th pick back and then grab him later in the first round but there were talks of GS liking him a lot so I think Petrie liked him enough to take a chance on him. I also think Petrie tried to move back but probably got nothing that he liked. Before the draft started he was somebody that I definitely liked, but just didn't think we would draft him this high. He is the athletic big that this team has been waiting for since C-Web had two legs. He is a great athlete, can play inside and outside, and something that I love is that he can handle the ball. The Kings surprised the ish out of me with the pick, but I love it.

Sean Singletary
- He is a guy that I thought we would end up taking with one of our 2nd rounders. He is a PG that knew how to score in Virginia, scoring almost 20 a game and dishing the ball as well with 6 assists per game. He reminds me of Bobby Jackson in the way that he can score. He will turn the ball over but he is a PG that scores, plain and simple.

Patrick Ewing Jr.
- I don't know much about him but I have seen a few of his games and youtube clips. He is a freakish athlete! I am looking forward to seeing a player on the Kings finally dunk. The last time we had a player like him was Gerald Wallace.
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Post#705 » by Smills91 » Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:30 am

mitchweber wrote:Also, I don't know who said it, but there is a part of me that thinks that maybe it was a way to get Ewing here as our big man coach. At least I think it's not a crazy thought.

Way to steal my idea...check earlier thread.
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Post#706 » by sacking78 » Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:43 am

Smills91 wrote:
mitchweber wrote:Also, I don't know who said it, but there is a part of me that thinks that maybe it was a way to get Ewing here as our big man coach. At least I think it's not a crazy thought.

Way to steal my idea...check earlier thread.


lol..
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Post#707 » by basketballdario » Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:59 am

I go to Georgetown and watched every game, I'll tell y'all a little about Ewing. He's a very very smart player, actually one of the best passers on our team (much better than our starting point guard). He is very athletic as well, and he usually translates that into solid defense. He is 6'7 or 6'8 and pretty long, so I think he can make an impact on that end by adding a little strength.

His problems are pretty obvious tho, he is not a good shooter and lacks offensive skills other than passing. He can hit open shots but he's still not a good shooter. He does make plays on offense tho, like getting offensive rebounds and making great passes (see I'm emphasizing that he's a good passer lol). Great Great energy guy, he actually started at the beginning of the year but I guess John Thompson wanted more scoring in our starting line so he moved Ewing to the bench, a role that he really thrived in. He always finished the game, which is more important anyway, and often made plays that helped us win games. We had a gaudy record this year but we really weren't that good of a team, and we won a bunch of close ones. Ewing usually had his hand in those close wins.

Even tho I'm really really happy that he got drafted, I have to say I'm pretty surprised. I agree with what has been said before, given the right situation he can thrive, hope for the best for both him and the Kings.
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Post#708 » by Ballings7 » Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:07 am

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VeeJay24 wrote:Hold on guys, put in the right situation Ewing can help. He's an energy guy and will probably be a defensive specialist.

I mean I don't understand some of u guys, you say the team needs defense and when he adds a role playing defensive type of guy in the 2nd rd. you complain. Go figure............

Ewing was very important to the success of G-town, he's very underrated. He is probably one of the best defenders in the draft and can hit an open jumper to boot. Let's see how it works out.


No, he's cool but we'll see if he even makes the team first. He could fit but we have to really clear the way for him if he even gets the chance to fit.


Well said, both.

It is how it is now, and I dig the Ewing pick.
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Post#709 » by Ballings7 » Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:18 am

UKF wrote:For those of you who wanted Hendrix, he would have gotten barely any playing time. So don't trip.


I completely disagree... we would of cleared out 1 or 2 of the vets somehow during the next some of months, if we took Hendrix.

Hendrix > SAR, KT, and Moore... he's gonna be one of the steals of this draft. Another one of those good big men on both sides of the ball who come off the bench and play consistent.

STK wrote:You mean we couldn't even draft a guy that started after playing 4 years.


Jeff Green and Dajuan Summers...

VeeJay24 wrote:Come on, He could've easily started and probably should've started but he helped the team the best with his energy coming off the bench. Which means that he has no ego and is a team player. I can tell you now he can guard out on the perimeter and probably blocks shots better than any big man we have right now.

If he makes the team he really helps this team defensively and athletically.

I think it was Ballings who wanted a SF that was really the total opposite of Martin. A defender, well Ewing is that and with his hustle and the ability to make open jumpers which he was able to do at G-town. He hit some big shots for G-town.

I really think if he is able to enhance some of his skills he can be a great role player for this team. The type of guy that can get big put backs when needed, hit a big shot when needed, guard the best perimeter player, block many shots, collect many boards and will not complain one iota.

I think it's an excellent pick and if the Kings are really going to go back to the Princeton. He knows the offense and I think it's no doubt he makes the team.


Agreed.

Ewing Jr. isn't quite what I meant, regardless, he still fits the bill of the kind of guy we need up front.

I've always liked Ewing Jr. since I started watching G-Town a couple years ago.
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Post#710 » by pillwenney » Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:06 am

One thing about nbadraft.net--there comparisons usually suck, but their actual breakdowns are good.

http://www.nbadraft.net/admincp/profile ... mpson.html

Strengths: Post forward with excellent length and versatility ... Though he's already a senior, he has a developing skill set and shows a lot of upside ... A late bloomer who despite playing at a mid-major has lottery pick potential ... Terrific foot speed allows him to hold his own on the perimeter on both ends of the floor ... Has great fluidity and athleticism and inside/outside skills ... Good touch on his shot with consistent range out to 12-15 feet ... Has some polished post moves including a nice jump hook ... A marvelous passer for a 6-10 guy with vision and good decision making. Has a 1:1 a/to ratio, which for a post player is excellent ... Rebounds the ball well ... Quality defender. A factor as a shot blocker with his quick leaping ability and timing ... Can handle the ball in both the half court and full court ... Has the ability to face the basket and take bigger players off the dribble ... High character guy. Plays with a high motor, great attitude and eager to improve. ... Hard worker who has shown steady improvement throughout his college career ... Averaging 20 and 10 for his second consecutive season in college ...

Weaknesses: Needs to become stronger and tougher inside ... He has the frame and ability to play inside but will need to improve on those skills for the next level ... He'll need to improve on his leg strength to better fight for positioning ... Must become better at using positioning for rebounds instead of relying strictly on his athleticism over less athletic, smaller players ... Playing in a lower level conference makes him a tougher sell. Level of competition has not been great playing at Rider in the MAAC, he'll have a bigger adjustment in level of competition, thought he has performed very well when facing top level competition ... His free throw shooting while solid over his career has trailed off (55%) as a senior ...


In the pre-draft briefing Geoff specifically talked about the guy being a high-character guy.

Honestly though, a big man coach can't teach everything, but he won't have to--probably just rebounding first and foremost. Other than that Jason and Spencer just need to hit the weights, which isn't at all unusual. But this is why I like late bloomers like Thompson--they tend to have a really strong work ethic.
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Post#711 » by BMiller52 » Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:12 am

basketballdario wrote:I go to Georgetown and watched every game, I'll tell y'all a little about Ewing. He's a very very smart player, actually one of the best passers on our team (much better than our starting point guard). He is very athletic as well, and he usually translates that into solid defense. He is 6'7 or 6'8 and pretty long, so I think he can make an impact on that end by adding a little strength.

His problems are pretty obvious tho, he is not a good shooter and lacks offensive skills other than passing. He can hit open shots but he's still not a good shooter. He does make plays on offense tho, like getting offensive rebounds and making great passes (see I'm emphasizing that he's a good passer lol). Great Great energy guy, he actually started at the beginning of the year but I guess John Thompson wanted more scoring in our starting line so he moved Ewing to the bench, a role that he really thrived in. He always finished the game, which is more important anyway, and often made plays that helped us win games. We had a gaudy record this year but we really weren't that good of a team, and we won a bunch of close ones. Ewing usually had his hand in those close wins.

Even tho I'm really really happy that he got drafted, I have to say I'm pretty surprised. I agree with what has been said before, given the right situation he can thrive, hope for the best for both him and the Kings.


Do you think getting a big man coach might help him?
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Post#712 » by Ballings7 » Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:22 am

I think he just needs to mature body-wise, and skill-wise, in terms of his inside play on both ends (moreso defensively), for the NBA.

He has the initiation point for that with his frame and size, and what he did in college. I think he has the tools to be a notable, all-around defensive player. And really should, turn out to be one. I'm not worried about his rebounding based on various write-ups, and again, because of what he has to work with and progress along.

I also don't really think he fits all the "solid-solid-solid-solid-solid-solid-solid-solid-solid-solid" label talk that I heard and read from like, everybody.

I'm confident about him being a significant complement to Spencer.

I definitely like how we've gotten bigger up front, not only for now, but for the future

Hawes/Thompson/quite possibly Shelden/Brad/Moore
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Post#713 » by deNIEd » Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:26 am

Thompson is not the problem. I don't care who we draft really. He could work out, he could not.

Problem is that we are not being nearly active enough, nor do we as an organization have any balls whatsoever.
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Post#714 » by Sacramento_King » Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:44 am

deNIEd wrote:Thompson is not the problem. I don't care who we draft really. He could work out, he could not.

Problem is that we are not being nearly active enough, nor do we as an organization have any balls whatsoever.


I agree completely. Petrie needs to acquire assets by any means. Buy picks, trade for future picks etc. The more assets they have, the better chance of getting a home run. Kings are trying to sell tickets next year and Thompson won't do it for them.
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Post#715 » by Flix360 » Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:52 am

did u kept sean singletary? and im his fan since march and im impressed with him, he was even projected undrafted, but he got on 42?

best of luck kings fans
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Post#716 » by Draino » Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:08 am

kingsfan10 wrote:Kings pick Ewing Jr.

dude do you realize you predicted ALL 3 Kings picks???

Thompson
Singletary
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Post#717 » by PaKwAn » Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:02 pm

JT seems to have an Aldrige type of a game,im ok with the picks made but as we all know could have been better. Since these where the guys we picked im going to support them and give them a chance to show what they really have.

I actually liked Singletary,here's a video of him http://www.sacbee.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-sea ... deBlogs=16 He has that Beno spin and a good floater.
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Post#718 » by KingInExile » Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:13 pm

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deNIEd wrote:Thompson is not the problem. I don't care who we draft really. He could work out, he could not.

Problem is that we are not being nearly active enough, nor do we as an organization have any balls whatsoever.


I agree completely. Petrie needs to acquire assets by any means. Buy picks, trade for future picks etc. The more assets they have, the better chance of getting a home run. Kings are trying to sell tickets next year and Thompson won't do it for them.

"Assets" do no good when you don't have room for them on the roster. As of now the Kings have 14 guys on the roster, and this doesn't count the soon-to-be unrestricted FAs (Beno, Johnson and Wright). And who says Petrie is done adding rookie talent? There are still some undrafted guys who can get camp invites along with young FAs from the D-league. But even at that, there's still not going to be room to add these "assets" unless some of the existing "dead weight" is moved...which is easier said than done.
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Post#719 » by PaKwAn » Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:31 pm

Patrick Ewing jr highlights http://youtube.com/watch?v=meTt3CmaQ64
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Post#720 » by chriswebb86 » Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:48 pm

deNIEd wrote:Thompson is not the problem. I don't care who we draft really. He could work out, he could not.

Problem is that we are not being nearly active enough, nor do we as an organization have any balls whatsoever.

Do you just want us to be more like the Knicks and make moves because we can?
Also how do you know that we havent tried to make trades?
I would say we do have some balls; moving a fan favorite in Peja for a guy with character issues in Artest is a pretty ballies move. Drafting a player out of a small school called Western Carolina is a pretty ballies move. So I wouldnt say we havent had the balls to make moves.

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