teerfour+40LG wrote:The new coach has to hold all players equally accountable, since that was one of the complaints out of the locker room this season, so no David Blatt.
FrodoBaggins wrote:Common denominator
Why do all these coaches keep failing in Sacramento?
Querie: Perhaps it might be on our end, and not the coaches
Epiphany: Maybe it's Demarcus Cousins and the organization!
City of Trees wrote:SacKingZZZ wrote:City of Trees wrote:It's not like i root against the guy. For me, it's just I think the Kings would be better without him, so I share my opinion to trade him. Kings can't trade him if he stinks.
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I think it's worth a shot to give him a "handpicked" coach. And by that I mean relative to his on court abilities and not his personality issues. Plenty of people act like that's happened already when it hasn't happened one time. If anything they've consistently not done that, nor have they, until Vlade showed up at least, built the team around him in any sort of way. This is the last chance to do that and see where it leads. I'm telling you, watch what happens when they finally have a coach with some power who plays Cousins the right way. All those little quirks will just seem to fade away.
Maybe it does work with another coach, anything is possible. I've just reached my limit on patience with him... It would be a lot easier for me if Cousins actually played the way Kings fans love to see the game played.
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I personally don't care either way, sincerely. Commonplace stuff back in the day. I think a lot of it is environment induced, personally 
Kings2013 wrote:Wolfay wrote:KF10 wrote:If that was the case, Keith Smart would still be here. Smart was "buddies buddies" with everyone on roster and didn't hold players accountable for anything... and yet he got the axe eventually. Same goes with Ty Corbin too. Doesn't fit on what has been said.
No one is saying that Cousins is not a difficult player to manage but given the quality of coaches that passed through Sacramento, it is downright pathetic. I still remember the only reason why Westphal was hired by the Kings because he was the cheapest to hire and the only coach that accepted pennies to coach under the Maloof-directed regime.
Most if not all of those coaches that coached the Kings in the previous 6-7 years are still jobless and haven't coached a game since. Hmm..
Before someone points to Karl and his resume for the thousand's of time, it wasn't only Cousins that didn't like him, it was majority of the team. Karl has been throwing his players under the bus in every post game and likes to voice his (direct) opinions through the media. A strategy that works...maybe 2 out of 10 times. Not too mention Karl is in the twilight of his coaching career. Not an exact science on why he didn't work in Sacramento.
That's some revisionist history. Keith Smart got into profanity-laced fights and even suspended Cousins. I don't what it is, Stockholm Syndrome or something, but the grip that Cousins has on you guys is frightening. Your reality is so distorted that you actually think Cousins was a model citizen before Karl. Dude, even Malone, the fabled Cousins whisperer, wanted Cousins axed before he took the job.
Not an exact science on why NOBODY, NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON, EVER worked in Sacramento since Cousins was drafted.McHale is a legit HOF player that commands respect. Fortunately -- he was a big when he played in the NBA and knows a thing or two about the game through a big's eyes. He has a nice blend/blanace on being a player's coach and when to hold player's accountable, imo. His coaching style fits with what we have on roster. We finally have a coaching candidate that checks off most if not all the boxes on what we should be looking for in a coach.
Yeah, that sure helped his relationship with Harden. I'm sure Cousins, who has 100 times the butthurt and not even half the success, is going to do a 180
Do you have a link for the Malone part?
The Kings have been a bad franchise and IMO have had no coaches worthy to continue on, regardless of Cousins. To me that's false equivalency to relate the two
At any rate, IMO, this is Sacramento. This place has had no success with free agency the draft, and has draft obligations owed to Philly. It's not like Burger King, where you can have your way so to speak. Would it be nice if DMC was a squeaky clean cat? Yes, but he may still be the only hope, getting him on page, the franchise has at becoming respectable in the near future. Yes, as an avid fan I think he's a decent hearted kid that can mature with a coach who respects him and game plans for him if we start to become more competitive, even with his checkered history, and there is only one way to find out.. And if we hire a coach who establishes a relationship with him and tries to work with him and this type of upheaval is still going on, then trade him next trade deadline and I'm wrong.
I believe Vlade to feel the same way that I do. He stated DMC to be untouchable last summer and last deadline. DMC didn't need an exit interview with Vlade because they were on the same page, and Sam Amick's latest article about the situation a few days ago had Vlade saying the team is still building around him. IMO he's going to be here unless there is a deal that makes the team better. He's the team's number one asset, and will be treated as such IMO.
bleeds_purple wrote:Warned for backseat moderating and personal attack. -Wolfay
Silver Man wrote:Keep Cousins in the post and utilize him to maximum rather than having him waste his energy starting his moves from the perimeter and midrange and wasting his energy there.
City of Trees wrote:Silver Man wrote:Keep Cousins in the post and utilize him to maximum rather than having him waste his energy starting his moves from the perimeter and midrange and wasting his energy there.
Why this is even something that needs to be covered just shows how screwed up Karl's approach was. Adjust to your players, George!
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Silver Man wrote:City of Trees wrote:Silver Man wrote:Keep Cousins in the post and utilize him to maximum rather than having him waste his energy starting his moves from the perimeter and midrange and wasting his energy there.
Why this is even something that needs to be covered just shows how screwed up Karl's approach was. Adjust to your players, George!
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Oh, I 100% agree I only added this part because of how poorly Karl did this.
City of Trees wrote:According to Jason Jones Mike Woodson will be the first of many interviewed by Vlade.
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City of Trees wrote:According to Jason Jones Mike Woodson will be the first of many interviewed by Vlade.
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Jstock12 wrote:Mike Woodson, VDN, Mark Jackson... I mean... really Sacramento? Really? Why are you doing this to yourselves.
blind prophet wrote:Jstock12 wrote:Mike Woodson, VDN, Mark Jackson... I mean... really Sacramento? Really? Why are you doing this to yourselves.
Talking doesn't hurt much.
I'd rather them talk with many, then narrow it down to a few.
blind prophet wrote:Talking doesn't hurt much.
I'd rather them talk with many, then narrow it down to a few.
rpa wrote:blind prophet wrote:Talking doesn't hurt much.
I'd rather them talk with many, then narrow it down to a few.
Completely disagree. "Talking" is what got us Eric Mussellman (remember, he gave an "amazing" presentation to the Maloofs).
The Kings should have used the last 2+ months to look at bodies of work and talk to a bunch of people about perspective candidates. Narrow that list down to 2 or 3 guys and then consider having them each come in.
Talking to a bunch of people just means you're likely going to pick the one that interviews the best; not the one that is the best for your team.
Further, talking to a lot of people could "validate" a bad interview. That is, they bring 10 people in to interview and 1 or 2 have bad talks. The Kings can chalk it up to them not being as good as they hoped because the other 8 went fine. Bring in 3 guys and have 2 go wrong and it validates your interview as the problem.
I mean seriously, bringing in 6, 10, 15 guys to interview for the job absolutely wreaks of amateur hour. Of course, at this point I'd expect nothing less from this organization.
