^ Yeah.
And, I've thought about that a bit myself, letting Duncan go and focusing on everybody else. But, are the Hornets good enough as a team to focus more on the wing guys?
Like, Duncan is getting his, then you have one of Parker/Ginobili to slow down. And, since both are highly skilled offensive players, is that limitation on one of those guys going to be enough? Combined with the more simple players like Finley, Thomas, Oberto, Udoka, Barry/Horry here and there? Not just shooting-wise, but moving the ball as a team is involved with them, also. And, Duncan isn't just going to look to score, he's still going to facilitate the offense sometimes - like Paul. But with Paul, it's different, because, the Hornets reliance on him for the offense to be run is notably more, and the collective options around him combined with the Spurs defense on the team offensively, hasn't been relatively enough for the Hornets. They don't really have another guy to run their offense through, like the Spurs do, who have 3 consistently, and at times 5 (Oberto/Barry). If anybody other than Paul, it'd be West, but I don't think he's consistent/good/proven enough to be that 2nd source.
Because, Ginobili today still played solid overall, but not relative to a top-level game. He didn't have a solid scoring game, 5-13, 15 pts. But still hit some shots inside and out, ran the back-up point, and got 8 assists... I'd guess their defense played a part, didn't focus on that too much.
The Spurs depth, diversity, and chemistry as a team is awesome. I just don't know if the Hornets are going to have enough, now with this new dimension on the series.
I think for them to win, like in the first two games, the Spurs have to be off their game significantly. I'm doubting that happens in the best of 3 series now. That'd be surpirsing and impressive to me.
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Ballings7 wrote:^ Yeah.
And, I've thought about that a bit myself, letting Duncan go and focusing on everybody else. But, are the Hornets good enough as a team to focus more on the wing guys?
Like, Duncan is getting his, then you have one of Parker/Ginobili to slow down. And, since both are highly skilled offensive players, is that limitation on one of those guys going to be enough? Combined with the more simple players like Finley, Thomas, Oberto, Udoka, Barry/Horry here and there? Not just shooting-wise, but moving the ball as a team is involved with them, also. And, Duncan isn't just going to look to score, he's still going to facilitate the offense sometimes - like Paul. But with Paul, it's different, because, the Hornets reliance on him for the offense to be run is notably more, and the collective options around him combined with the Spurs defense on the team offensively, hasn't been relatively enough for the Hornets. They don't really have another guy to run their offense through, like the Spurs do, who have 3 consistently, and at times 5 (Oberto/Barry). If anybody other than Paul, it'd be West, but I don't think he's consistent/good/proven enough to be that 2nd source.
Because, Ginobili today still played solid overall, but not relative to a top-level game. He didn't have a solid scoring game, 5-13, 15 pts. But still hit some shots inside and out, ran the back-up point, and got 8 assists... I'd guess their defense played a part, didn't focus on that too much.
The Spurs depth, diversity, and chemistry as a team is awesome. I just don't know if the Hornets are going to have enough, now with this new dimension on the series.
I think for them to win, like in the first two games, the Spurs have to be off their game significantly. I'm doubting that happens in the best of 3 series now. That'd be surpirsing and impressive to me.
Well from what I've seen, the Spurs have been doubling West at times, since nobody other than maybe Duncan (who they want to keep out of foul trouble) can guard him. But unlike Paul (obviously), West hasn't really been able to handle the double teams, so it works there. That's why I've always thought that being a primary scorer doesn't do much good at all if you can't draw attention and pass out of it smartly and effectively. That's why it might not work to try to focus on Parker and Ginobili. But if I were NO, I would give it a shot.
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Yeah I think the big key is that they're frustrating him, and that's part of why he's not really a main offensive weapon yet. When Duncan is doubled he almost always makes the right pass to the right guy for an open shot. When West is trapped or doubled he gets frustrated and it affects his whole game.
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Wolfay wrote:As I have said from the very beginning, Boston is an overrated team. They can talk a lot (especially KG), but when the tough gets going, they all turn into little girls.
Doc Rivers can't coach either. Even if he makes it to the finals, he'll get out-coached BAD by Pop/Phil Jackson.
I think this is really the key part. I don't care what defense the other team is playing, Rondo should not be close to leading your team in FGA in any game. Their offense should be much, much better than it is.
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Wow - what a win by Cleveland
They played really well as a team again, especially defensively. They were just tremendous there.
Shows again, with a good defense (and some semblance of offense), you have a solid chance to win.
Boston's road play is a definite big-time issue - and if they advance, which I don't know about anymore, I'm doubting they'll be able to turn it around enough. Aside from already having match-up problems with Detroit.
And again, Boston's significance of reliance on jumpshots shows up (like on the road against Atlanta)... they always were a team that relied quite a bit on jumpers, but it wasn't as evident in a negative fashion in the regular season.
With the Cavs playing competitive in Game 1, and with these two wins, Cleveland now may well be able to play well enough as a team on the road. Being in more of a rhythm against Boston, and having already played in Boston twice.
I think Cleveland will have a good mental approach for Game 5, combined with Boston's home situation, that will be anybody's game.
I used to be wary of Boston before these playoffs, but slowly and steadily, I am not anymore. They've been exposed multiple times in numerous ways, and the main issue of their iffy road ability, I don't think is really going to be improved.
They're still a good team, and could just bust out of their road funk now, but that doesn't look like it'll happen.
They played really well as a team again, especially defensively. They were just tremendous there.
Shows again, with a good defense (and some semblance of offense), you have a solid chance to win.
Boston's road play is a definite big-time issue - and if they advance, which I don't know about anymore, I'm doubting they'll be able to turn it around enough. Aside from already having match-up problems with Detroit.
And again, Boston's significance of reliance on jumpshots shows up (like on the road against Atlanta)... they always were a team that relied quite a bit on jumpers, but it wasn't as evident in a negative fashion in the regular season.
With the Cavs playing competitive in Game 1, and with these two wins, Cleveland now may well be able to play well enough as a team on the road. Being in more of a rhythm against Boston, and having already played in Boston twice.
I think Cleveland will have a good mental approach for Game 5, combined with Boston's home situation, that will be anybody's game.
I used to be wary of Boston before these playoffs, but slowly and steadily, I am not anymore. They've been exposed multiple times in numerous ways, and the main issue of their iffy road ability, I don't think is really going to be improved.
They're still a good team, and could just bust out of their road funk now, but that doesn't look like it'll happen.
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The Spurs can be beaten, but they don't beat themselves, if hornets wants to win they better bring their A game and they might have a chance to win the series.
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One hell of a win by San Antonio
West's back combined with the Spurs defense really limited him tonight
The Hornets didn't play well in the third qtr with bad, well-called fouls (two offensive on Paul, three PFs on West, then a technical), then the play of Duncan/Ginobili/Udoka/Bowen, and around the middle of the third, Chris Paul was shut down when Popovich made the adjustment of trapping Paul, and the Hornets couldn't score. Before that there was just too much being done with Paul/Chandler.
Chris Paul played pretty well, but as a whole was contained tonight
Ime Udoka + team defense has made Bonzi a non-factor in this series.. along with not playing as many minutes or getting the kind of touches he got in the past. Udoka being a stronger defender to play guys like Bonzi, is one of the main reasons the Spurs signed him, and makes him a different defender to Bowen.
Peja started off well, scoring at will on Bruce Bowen, but was shut down in the 2nd half.
David West will continue to have problems at times if he doesn't cool down his emotions as he goes along in his career... I dig his game and steady establishment in the league, though.
Horry's back-screen on West, I don't really think it was a "dirty" play. Physical? Yes. If anything it's a coincidence with Horry, and was just a basketball play. I do understand if people think there's a bit extra, for obvious reasons. I doubt Horry wouldn't of done it if West didn't have a hurting back. Unfortunate West got hurt, but I don't mind at all if it effects him for Game 7, and may not because of the few days off till the next game.
West's back combined with the Spurs defense really limited him tonight
The Hornets didn't play well in the third qtr with bad, well-called fouls (two offensive on Paul, three PFs on West, then a technical), then the play of Duncan/Ginobili/Udoka/Bowen, and around the middle of the third, Chris Paul was shut down when Popovich made the adjustment of trapping Paul, and the Hornets couldn't score. Before that there was just too much being done with Paul/Chandler.
Chris Paul played pretty well, but as a whole was contained tonight
Ime Udoka + team defense has made Bonzi a non-factor in this series.. along with not playing as many minutes or getting the kind of touches he got in the past. Udoka being a stronger defender to play guys like Bonzi, is one of the main reasons the Spurs signed him, and makes him a different defender to Bowen.
Peja started off well, scoring at will on Bruce Bowen, but was shut down in the 2nd half.
David West will continue to have problems at times if he doesn't cool down his emotions as he goes along in his career... I dig his game and steady establishment in the league, though.
Horry's back-screen on West, I don't really think it was a "dirty" play. Physical? Yes. If anything it's a coincidence with Horry, and was just a basketball play. I do understand if people think there's a bit extra, for obvious reasons. I doubt Horry wouldn't of done it if West didn't have a hurting back. Unfortunate West got hurt, but I don't mind at all if it effects him for Game 7, and may not because of the few days off till the next game.
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