Kings Off-Season

[iqureshi]

Bulls fan. unsure of what I think of Lavine. He looked amazing against Minny. Flashes of Kobe. Other games he's an awful chuck who wouldn't pass to Lauri for open buckets. Strong work ethic, just terrible ball IQ. His floor is probably Gerald Green, upside is an all star(at least in the eastern conference). Problem I feel with him is, in his head he's Kobe Bryant. Maybe he could improve his efficiency, but by how much? If he comes, it'll be the Lavine show for better or for worse. He'll definitely got better, and should be back to his pre-injury form by this year. Think 17 million is around the level Bulls think if they should resign him or not.

[OGSactownballer]

Bulls fan. unsure of what I think of Lavine. He looked amazing against Minny. Flashes of Kobe. Other games he's an awful chuck who wouldn't pass to Lauri for open buckets. Strong work ethic, just terrible ball IQ. His floor is probably Gerald Green, upside is an all star(at least in the eastern conference). Problem I feel with him is, in his head he's Kobe Bryant. Maybe he could improve his efficiency, but by how much? If he comes, it'll be the Lavine show for better or for worse. He'll definitely got better, and should be back to his pre-injury form by this year. Think 17 million is around the level Bulls think if they should resign him or not.

All I know is that I really hope that this is typical Woj BS noise or he’s being paid by an agent to pump value.

I want no part of Lavine. Buddy is four times the shooter and Bogi is ten times the playmaker. I don’t even see the point with our roster as it is way too much money and doesn’t fill our glaring need at the 3.
I can only hope that this is a way to bump Chicago out of that prime cap position they are in by locking up a bunch of money with Lavine allowing us to be a premier deadline trading partner.

[LightTheBeam]

If Sac trades Bogdan or Buddy, Its going to be really tough to continue watching.

The coolest thing about our team right now is this growing friendship between Buddy/Bogdan and then Giles/Fox/Bagley. Thats the core, IDGAF if Bogdan is 1 inch shorter than he should be. Play your best guys until you have a better option. This is another reason Joerger is driving me **** bonkers. Such an old school mentality as if every single person must fit in some box.

Do you really think Stevens would bench his best players? This wouldn't even be a question, we would be acting as if Bogdan was a true 3 by now because Stevens would figure a way to make it work.

[BoogieTime]

I think summer league to date has shown

Conclusively

The Kings need more help at bigs than wings as Bagley looks a bust and Harry not ready for the responsibility yet. JJ balls

I want Capela/Nurkic tomorrow

[kalenclayton]

I think summer league to date has shown

Conclusively

The Kings need more help at bigs than wings as Bagley looks a bust and Harry not ready for the responsibility yet. JJ balls

I want Capela/Nurkic tomorrow

You are the king of the overreacting hot take.

[becorz]

I think summer league to date has shown

Conclusively

The Kings need more help at bigs than wings as Bagley looks a bust and Harry not ready for the responsibility yet. JJ balls

I want Capela/Nurkic tomorrow

Basing anything on three summer league games a few weeks after the draft is crazy. To me, the only thing that was important in summer league was the health of Giles. Otherwise, everything is just about getting the young players some playing time.

[BoogieTime]

I think summer league to date has shown

Conclusively

The Kings need more help at bigs than wings as Bagley looks a bust and Harry not ready for the responsibility yet. JJ balls

I want Capela/Nurkic tomorrow

You are the king of the overreacting hot take.

Take away my hyperbole if you like, but I don’t see how Jackson doesn’t look more NBA ready than Giles/Bagley anytime soon. You don’t agree?

[BoogieTime]

Harry may or may not be better at PF as well

[SactoKingsFan]

There's nothing conclusive about summer league. Definitely not about to throw the bust term around during summer league. Lots of guys had great or terrible summer league then looked completely different during the regular season. I'm more worried about Joerger sticking with his outdated offense and giving guys like Zbo and Jackson too many minutes.

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[BoogieTime]

There's nothing conclusive about summer league. Definitely not about to throw the bust term around during summer league. Lots of guys had great or terrible summer league then looked completely different during the regular season. I'm more worried about Joerger sticking with his outdated offense and giving guys like Zbo and Jackson too many minutes.

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Well, I already want our second/third best players starting together in Buddy/Bogdan. But now you throw in a kid in Jackson who has length/BBIQ/effort/is filling out/ who needs to toughen up, but has shown well in SL these last two games.

Harry has heart, and I think can round out to a solid starter eventually with health concerns. Bagley not looking good at all.

I just think the wings - Buddy/Bogdan/JJ, at this point, are more solid than what’s going on in the paint now.

We’re talking about over the course of this upcoming contract.

That’s not to mention Capela/Nurkic are factually the better players than Parker/LaVine etc

[kalenclayton]

I think summer league to date has shown

Conclusively

The Kings need more help at bigs than wings as Bagley looks a bust and Harry not ready for the responsibility yet. JJ balls

I want Capela/Nurkic tomorrow

You are the king of the overreacting hot take.

Take away my hyperbole if you like, but I don’t see how Jackson doesn’t look more NBA ready than Giles/Bagley anytime soon. You don’t agree?

I think Jackson looks a lot better than he did during the season. I may be looking at different things than you though. He plays best when he is aggressive and that will help his teammates. He showed that in the 2nd and 3rd games. He doesn’t need to be scoring, but he does need to be moving with purpose and playing with confidence. He still has lots of warts, but I’ve seen a lot of good in these last two games. I’m saying this as someone who is normally pretty down on Jackson.

Bagley looks fine. He currently needs a playmaker to put him in good positions. He is NOT a creator at this moment. He needs to work on his game and really focus on his right hand. As time goes on, he will get better. He is in no way shape or form a bust at this time. I didn’t see anything that would give me that indication. I just saw a young guy struggle when his weaknesses were attacked. I could’ve told you that was going to happen.

Giles looks great. I don’t know what you were seeing. He looks like an awesome rook with a ton of upside. I think he’s ready for 15-25 minutes a night. He will look loads better when he has competent teammates. His skillset will fit right in with Willie, Fox, Buddy and Bogi.

[BoogieTime]

You are the king of the overreacting hot take.

Take away my hyperbole if you like, but I don’t see how Jackson doesn’t look more NBA ready than Giles/Bagley anytime soon. You don’t agree?

I think Jackson looks a lot better than he did during the season. I may be looking at different things than you though. He plays best when he is aggressive and that will help his teammates. He showed that in the 2nd and 3rd games. He doesn’t need to be scoring, but he does need to be moving with purpose and playing with confidence. He still has lots of warts, but I’ve seen a lot of good in these last two games. I’m saying this as someone who is normally pretty down on Jackson.

Bagley looks fine. He currently needs a playmaker to put him in good positions. He is NOT a creator at this moment. He needs to work on his game and really focus on his right hand. As time goes on, he will get better. He is in no way shape or form a bust at this time. I didn’t see anything that would give me that indication. I just saw a young guy struggle when his weaknesses were attacked. I could’ve told you that was going to happen.

Giles looks great. I don’t know what you were seeing. He looks like an awesome rook with a ton of upside. I think he’s ready for 15-25 minutes a night. He will look loads better when he has competent teammates. His skillset will fit right in with Willie, Fox, Buddy and Bogi.

Bagley looks fine? Giles looks great?

IMO Bagley hasn’t even put a presence on the game today, which is highly concerning. That is showing a lot of deference to Giles. I like him, but he’s smallish for a C, is still getting his athleticism, and rough around the edges. This pair is young, and they are struggling in SL. They are struggling to positively impact in SL. I can’t believe Vlade or Joerger have the notion both will start about now.

We will see But I can say, that if what has gone on in SL will have ANY impact on the FO’s decision, that IMO my wish for our cap is more likely than a week ago

[City of Trees]

Marcus Smart: Smart measured a bit shorter than expected at 6-3 ¼ with shoes. The bruiser point guard does make up for it with a massive 6-9 ¼ wingspan however. Smart also weighed in at 227 pounds, making him the second-strongest point guard in our database.

I know Smart is a baller but is this really a path the Kings should take?

For the record my opinion for the best fit is Smart>Lavine.... But still... Not the best of options.

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[SactoKingsFan]

Marcus Smart: Smart measured a bit shorter than expected at 6-3 ¼ with shoes. The bruiser point guard does make up for it with a massive 6-9 ¼ wingspan however. Smart also weighed in at 227 pounds, making him the second-strongest point guard in our database.

I know Smart is a baller but is this really a path the Kings should take?

For the record my opinion for the best fit is Smart>Lavine.... But still... Not the best of options.

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This team needs a good two-way SF more than a defense first guard with major offensive limitations. Signing Smart would make sense if Kings were on the verge of competing for the 8th seed.

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[City of Trees]

Give me both Anderson and Smart and i will be one happy camper

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[City of Trees]

According to Jason Jones we can scratch off every RFA out there.

“With no deals imminent, the Kings will focus on the trade market, looking to take advantage of having about $17 million under the cap to absorb a contract that could land a coveted veteran small forward. A deal could also mean taking on a contract another team finds undesirable and would be willing to package with a first-round pick, which the Kings lack in 2019.”

https://www.hoop-ball.com/articles/team/report-kings-offered-mario-hezonja-a-multi-year-deal/

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[SacKingZZZ]

I think summer league to date has shown

Conclusively

The Kings need more help at bigs than wings as Bagley looks a bust and Harry not ready for the responsibility yet. JJ balls

I want Capela/Nurkic tomorrow

Be careful you're stepping far out a certain limb, very, very early.

[rpa]

I know Smart is a baller but is this really a path the Kings should take?

For the record my opinion for the best fit is Smart>Lavine.... But still... Not the best of options.

If the Kings trade their space for a future pick it's likely going to be a pick slated for late teens at best. Now let's consider 2 things:
#1: On average a player picked in that range is going to be worse than Smart (yes, I'm ignoring Smart's salary here)
#2: Ignore that "average" part because the Kings are--hands down--one of the worst teams in the league at drafting


What's my point? Smart's a good player. He fills a bunch of needs. He does nearly everything except shoot. The chances the Kings get a player that's anywhere near his caliber via a pick from a salary dump is next to nil.

[SacKingZZZ]

You are the king of the overreacting hot take.

Take away my hyperbole if you like, but I don’t see how Jackson doesn’t look more NBA ready than Giles/Bagley anytime soon. You don’t agree?

I think Jackson looks a lot better than he did during the season. I may be looking at different things than you though. He plays best when he is aggressive and that will help his teammates. He showed that in the 2nd and 3rd games. He doesn’t need to be scoring, but he does need to be moving with purpose and playing with confidence. He still has lots of warts, but I’ve seen a lot of good in these last two games. I’m saying this as someone who is normally pretty down on Jackson.

Bagley looks fine. He currently needs a playmaker to put him in good positions. He is NOT a creator at this moment. He needs to work on his game and really focus on his right hand. As time goes on, he will get better. He is in no way shape or form a bust at this time. I didn’t see anything that would give me that indication. I just saw a young guy struggle when his weaknesses were attacked. I could’ve told you that was going to happen.

Giles looks great. I don’t know what you were seeing. He looks like an awesome rook with a ton of upside. I think he’s ready for 15-25 minutes a night. He will look loads better when he has competent teammates. His skillset will fit right in with Willie, Fox, Buddy and Bogi.

I like what I've seen from JJ. It's the same problem with Mason though, when in a volume role he looks good, so what. Right now if you watch the games they are using Bagley to create space for the wings, but the wings aren't moving when he does have the ball. Jacksons real role is finding shots off of movement, finishing spot shots off of the ability of the superior talents on the team, and playing aggressive defense. I see another SL system that could very well prime the toilet to flush at the start of the year just like it did last year.

[SacKingZZZ]

According to Jason Jones we can scratch off every RFA out there.

“With no deals imminent, the Kings will focus on the trade market, looking to take advantage of having about $17 million under the cap to absorb a contract that could land a coveted veteran small forward. A deal could also mean taking on a contract another team finds undesirable and would be willing to package with a first-round pick, which the Kings lack in 2019.”

https://www.hoop-ball.com/articles/team/report-kings-offered-mario-hezonja-a-multi-year-deal/

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Screw the vet SF, get a pick in the next draft. It's highly unlikely Vlade didn't trade off a top 5 pick. They need to start rolling out the young guys and put them in a position to produce, not just putting them in tough spots to develop. 11 ppg ain't going to cut it. They have to build value and package to start putting this in order.