Kings Trade Thread

[BoogieTime]

We knew this will happen. Other teams will be inquiring about Bogdan. Hield is unhappy with his role here.

I say pay Bogdan and offload Hield somewhere else.

Personally, thats my third or fourth option.

I personally support a full youth rebuild, but if Im keeping one of Buddy or Bogdan, its Buddy. He has heart/consistency, and I think he had a down year under Walton. Bogdan IMO doesnt impact the game enough while starting. Hes a good 2nd unit handler, but Id put my money on Hield improving because consistency/work ethic arent taught. If starting under the right coaching Buddy can still put up 20/5/3 on good splits

Ofcourse if they arent rebuilding, which i dont see, they can still start both once and for all start both and see where it goes.

[Kabaum]

Two trade proposals I've seen online that I would jump on but I'd like to see what others think.

https://fadeawayworld.net/2020/10/25/nba-rumors-harrison-barnes-to-celtics-gordon-hayward-to-kings-in-proposed-trade/

Barnes + Bjelica for Gordon Hayward.

and

https://www.nbaanalysis.net/2020/10/11/this-kings-pacers-trade-would-send-myles-turner-to-sac-town/2/

Bogdan + Holmes for Myles Turner

Starting line up of:

Fox
Hield
Hayward
Bagley
Turner

NBA2K version of myself would jump on these trades in heart beat but what you all think? I haven't checked but maybe Haywards player option would effect signing Fox coming up.

[NYG]

Knicks get:
Mike Scott
Zhaire Smith
34th Overall Draft Pick
36th Overall Draft Pick

Kings get:
Josh Richardson
Norvel Pelle

76ers get:
Buddy Hield

I think Hield's pure ability just to shoot the ball would be maximized in Philly.

[kalenclayton]

Knicks get:
Mike Scott
Zhaire Smith
34th Overall Draft Pick
36th Overall Draft Pick

Kings get:
Josh Richardson
Norvel Pelle

76ers get:
Buddy Hield

I think Hield's pure ability just to shoot the ball would be maximized in Philly.

I really like this move for the Kings. Richardson is a great fit with the team. I’m a little confused as to why NY is in the trade. Zhaire could be a reclamation project for Sac and Scott can be the enforcer the team has lacked. I feel like the T&T board would kill this trade quickly. They hate Buddy.

[LightTheBeam]

Knicks get:
Mike Scott
Zhaire Smith
34th Overall Draft Pick
36th Overall Draft Pick

Kings get:
Josh Richardson
Norvel Pelle

76ers get:
Buddy Hield

I think Hield's pure ability just to shoot the ball would be maximized in Philly.

I really like this move for the Kings. Richardson is a great fit with the team. I’m a little confused as to why NY is in the trade. Zhaire could be a reclamation project for Sac and Scott can be the enforcer the team has lacked. I feel like the T&T board would kill this trade quickly. They hate Buddy.

Ya they definitely would. But that's not a reality. Buddy is coming off a down season, totally get that. I get the feeling that teams are going to look at the skill set he brings (elite shooting) and realize that putting him with Simmons/Embid hes going to feast.

I like swapping him for LeVert with Brooklyn or Richardson in Philly. Both those guys would make more sense in Sac, and Hield would make more sense on those teams.

[kalenclayton]

Knicks get:
Mike Scott
Zhaire Smith
34th Overall Draft Pick
36th Overall Draft Pick

Kings get:
Josh Richardson
Norvel Pelle

76ers get:
Buddy Hield

I think Hield's pure ability just to shoot the ball would be maximized in Philly.

I really like this move for the Kings. Richardson is a great fit with the team. I’m a little confused as to why NY is in the trade. Zhaire could be a reclamation project for Sac and Scott can be the enforcer the team has lacked. I feel like the T&T board would kill this trade quickly. They hate Buddy.

Ya they definitely would. But that's not a reality. Buddy is coming off a down season, totally get that. I get the feeling that teams are going to look at the skill set he brings (elite shooting) and realize that putting him with Simmons/Embid hes going to feast.

I like swapping him for LeVert with Brooklyn or Richardson in Philly. Both those guys would make more sense in Sac, and Hield would make more sense on those teams.

I love Levert’s fit with Fox. He’s one of my favorite targets right now. Hield would absolutely kill next to Durant and Kyrie with Nash And D’Antoni telling him what to do. It’s a fantastic match.

[Little Digger]

Fox sold his home in Folsom

[kalenclayton]

Fox sold his home in Folsom

1. How do you know this?
2. Does this mean anything?

[City of Trees]

Fox sold his home in Folsom

1. How do you know this?
2. Does this mean anything?

I've been to that home in folsom. He shared it with his mom. Makes sense he move now that he's getting married.

[LightTheBeam]

Fox sold his home in Folsom

1. How do you know this?
2. Does this mean anything?

I've been to that home in folsom. He shared it with his mom. Makes sense he move now that he's getting married.

I thought he lived in Roseville? Not to be weird but a year or 2 ago he went to a hotel I used to work at. My buddy was working the front desk and he checked in and i thought my buddy said he mentioned he was getting some last stuff worked on his house.

Either way, can't imagine we are trading him. Hes getting that new contract soon. Likely upgrading lol

[City of Trees]

1. How do you know this?
2. Does this mean anything?

I've been to that home in folsom. He shared it with his mom. Makes sense he move now that he's getting married.

I thought he lived in Roseville? Not to be weird but a year or 2 ago he went to a hotel I used to work at. My buddy was working the front desk and he checked in and i thought my buddy said he mentioned he was getting some last stuff worked on his house.

Either way, can't imagine we are trading him. Hes getting that new contract soon. Likely upgrading lol

Nah he's been living in Folsom up on the hill overlooking the valley.

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[LightTheBeam]

I've been to that home in folsom. He shared it with his mom. Makes sense he move now that he's getting married.

I thought he lived in Roseville? Not to be weird but a year or 2 ago he went to a hotel I used to work at. My buddy was working the front desk and he checked in and i thought my buddy said he mentioned he was getting some last stuff worked on his house.

Either way, can't imagine we are trading him. Hes getting that new contract soon. Likely upgrading lol

Nah he's been living in Folsom up on the hill overlooking the valley.

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I don't blame him. I moved out to El Dorado Hills early 2020, love it on this side of town. So nice.

[OGSactownballer]

Gotta be honest it’s getting pretty old being treated as the “third team” on the trade board for people to rob assets and value to make their star deals work

[LightTheBeam]

Gotta be honest it’s getting pretty old being treated as the “third team” on the trade board for people to rob assets and value to make their star deals work

I have to stop myself from going there most of the time. Its amazes me how Buddy and Barnes are viewed as such huge negatives that we need to "dump". Then i'll see an article suggesting we move Buddy for far more value and they shoot it down like its crazy. Then Bjelica/Holmes guys who we've seen time and time again get moved for firsts, are only good enough to move us from #35 + #43 to #27 or some trash.

Maybe they will be right, but it seems like that board follows a clear herd mentality where when 1 person whose trusted declares it as truth, everyone else is wrong. I prefer to hold and see. 40%+ 3pt shooters don't grow on trees. Wings who have no major weaknesses don't either. The reality is that we are coming off a down season, so maybe these guys are valued at an all time low, and maybe in a general sense that is their "value" but we've seen time and time again when a team has a major need they will pay to fill that (e.g. Sixers with shooting)

[DieHardKingsFan]

Did y’all read this trade proposal in Bleacher Report?

Phoenix Suns trade: Devin Booker

Sacramento Kings trade: Buddy Hield, Nemanja Bjelica, No. 12 pick, No. 35 pick (via DET) and 2022 first-round pick (top-three protected)

I like the idea of a Fox/Book backcourt, but I wish we could keep the 12th pick. What do you guys think?

[City of Trees]

Did y’all read this trade proposal in Bleacher Report?

Phoenix Suns trade: Devin Booker

Sacramento Kings trade: Buddy Hield, Nemanja Bjelica, No. 12 pick, No. 35 pick (via DET) and 2022 first-round pick (top-three protected)

I like the idea of a Fox/Book backcourt, but I wish we could keep the 12th pick. What do you guys think?

I think the Sun's hang up the phone and block the Kings number.


If I'm trading Booker the starting point is three future 1sts (one or two unprotected), a young prospect with All-Star potential, and a current role player like Buddy to hold me over while I develop the young prospect and picks.

In Bleacher reports trade #12 has little to no value when I'm trading a high caliber player like Booker. Truly a poor return for PHX.


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[City of Trees]

Gotta be honest it’s getting pretty old being treated as the “third team” on the trade board for people to rob assets and value to make their star deals work

I have to stop myself from going there most of the time. Its amazes me how Buddy and Barnes are viewed as such huge negatives that we need to "dump". Then i'll see an article suggesting we move Buddy for far more value and they shoot it down like its crazy. Then Bjelica/Holmes guys who we've seen time and time again get moved for firsts, are only good enough to move us from #35 + #43 to #27 or some trash.

Maybe they will be right, but it seems like that board follows a clear herd mentality where when 1 person whose trusted declares it as truth, everyone else is wrong. I prefer to hold and see. 40%+ 3pt shooters don't grow on trees. Wings who have no major weaknesses don't either. The reality is that we are coming off a down season, so maybe these guys are valued at an all time low, and maybe in a general sense that is their "value" but we've seen time and time again when a team has a major need they will pay to fill that (e.g. Sixers with shooting)

I hear you guys.... I really do.

It's deflating as a trade board fan whenever I make my way over there to see lopsided deals that I know none of us believe the team would agree to but we see the T&T board feels differently.

As everyone is aware the Trade board is a melting pot of our basketball community. I have a few tips for engaging on the trade board that I think helps me navigate the board without finding myself constantly in a defensive position.



#1 Don't take it too seriously

The casual fan watches only a handful of Kings games each season and will form opinions from that small sample size. Don't overreact to the casual fan trade proposal. I see them posted every day and it will never go away. Each fan base deals with this issue its not exclusive to Sacramento. Approach these threads with grace and educate. It's effective and other posters will read as well which can build your reputation on the board.


#2 Be calculated in your replies

You can't win every disagreement. You can't change every narrative. Sometimes less is more. Nothing hits harder than a reply that kills their argument in one reply.


#3 Engage in non Kings trade topics

One way to boost YOUR reputation in the board is to interact with fans on trade ideas not related to your team. Be objective. Be calm. Plant those seeds and you will begin to notice better interactions the next time you run into those posters in a thread related to the Kings.


#4 Don't argue with the mods

If you find a mod is giving you extra "attention" it's not because they dislike the Kings it's probably related to how you interacted with them previously. If you feel attacked by a mod we have ways of handling those issues. My DM's are always open and I will go to bat for all of you as long as you handled yourself within the rules. My advice here is don't get hung up on disagreements with mod opinions. They don't hold more weight than yours. Win the disagreement over with in depth analysis and facts.


#5 I don't need to claim victory

We are all people. Sometimes I find myself interacting with a poster who is just too emotional or prideful to admit they are wrong. I stated my case which I know is right. Other posters can read and decide for themselves.



There is only a small group of you that represent us on the T&T board. What do you think our reputation is based on how we've been posting?









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[OGSactownballer]

Gotta be honest it’s getting pretty old being treated as the “third team” on the trade board for people to rob assets and value to make their star deals work

I have to stop myself from going there most of the time. Its amazes me how Buddy and Barnes are viewed as such huge negatives that we need to "dump". Then i'll see an article suggesting we move Buddy for far more value and they shoot it down like its crazy. Then Bjelica/Holmes guys who we've seen time and time again get moved for firsts, are only good enough to move us from #35 + #43 to #27 or some trash.

Maybe they will be right, but it seems like that board follows a clear herd mentality where when 1 person whose trusted declares it as truth, everyone else is wrong. I prefer to hold and see. 40%+ 3pt shooters don't grow on trees. Wings who have no major weaknesses don't either. The reality is that we are coming off a down season, so maybe these guys are valued at an all time low, and maybe in a general sense that is their "value" but we've seen time and time again when a team has a major need they will pay to fill that (e.g. Sixers with shooting)

I hear you guys.... I really do.

It's deflating as a trade board fan whenever I make my way over there to see lopsided deals that I know none of us believe the team would agree to but we see the T&T board feels differently.

As everyone is aware the Trade board is a melting pot of our basketball community. I have a few tips for engaging on the trade board that I think helps me navigate the board without finding myself constantly in a defensive position.



#1 Don't take it too seriously

The casual fan watches only a handful of Kings games each season and will form opinions from that small sample size. Don't overreact to the casual fan trade proposal. I see them posted every day and it will never go away. Each fan base deals with this issue its not exclusive to Sacramento. Approach these threads with grace and educate. It's effective and other posters will read as well which can build your reputation on the board.


#2 Be calculated in your replies

You can't win every disagreement. You can't change every narrative. Sometimes less is more. Nothing hits harder than a reply that kills their argument in one reply.


#3 Engage in non Kings trade topics

One way to boost YOUR reputation in the board is to interact with fans on trade ideas not related to your team. Be objective. Be calm. Plant those seeds and you will begin to notice better interactions the next time you run into those posters in a thread related to the Kings.


#4 Don't argue with the mods

If you find a mod is giving you extra "attention" it's not because they dislike the Kings it's probably related to how you interacted with them previously. If you feel attacked by a mod we have ways of handling those issues. My DM's are always open and I will go to bat for all of you as long as you handled yourself within the rules. My advice here is don't get hung up on disagreements with mod opinions. They don't hold more weight than yours. Win the disagreement over with in depth analysis and facts.


#5 I don't need to claim victory

We are all people. Sometimes I find myself interacting with a poster who is just too emotional or prideful to admit they are wrong. I stated my case which I know is right. Other posters can read and decide for themselves.



There is only a small group of you that represent us on the T&T board. What do you think our reputation is based on how we've been posting?


I feel
Like I slide in on pretty much all of your points. And I completely agree. That’s how best to handle things.

There is absolutely a big market bias as well and there are several traditional fan bases (Celts, Lakers and Knicks primarily) that are just completely obnoxious and/or u realistic at valuation of their own assets or their front office ability to actually do deals.

I also have a lot of respect for most of the mods over there. They certainly have their own fan bias to work through like any of us. But generally they are intuitive and reasonable. Most are also fans of small or mid market teams and this have a more reasonable basis for discussion from our POV.






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[VCfor3]

I think Bjelica is definitely worth a late first on his own to a contender. I've always thought he was a solid role player with range. Holmes I know less about but Boston using say 26 to get him seems like it would make a ton of sense given their need for C depth.

Also one of our local beat writers was trying to figure out potential deals for us to get Buddy. He basically said expiring Dieng+1st+filler or Brooks(young starter for us)+Allen(young prospect)+expiring Dieng and that either option may not be enough. So a 1st and cap savings or decent young players and cap savings. Buddy definitely has less value on his contract, but any package that isn't clear positive value won't get him. I never understood the Harris+Horford for Buddy+Barnes idea unless Philly was adding in solid incentive. Harris and Horford would probably be much better fits on SAC than PHI, but Philly still needs to compensate for those contracts.

Don't know if any of that makes you feel better or not ha.

[City of Trees]

We are just over an hour away. I'm ready!!

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