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Jason Thompson

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 9:06 pm
by haterade
Hi Kings fans, I'm a Knicks fan and just wondering what the status of Jason Thompson is regarding the future of the Kings. This draft is full of PF's and I read somewhere that the Kings were not very happy with their present bigs. So are the Kings looking to draft another big (Favors or Cousins) and what will that mean to Hawes and Thompson? Thanks beforehand!

Re: Jason Thompson

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 9:17 pm
by pillwenney
If we draft a big, I think either Hawes or Thompson is gone. For me personally, if we draft Cousins, I'm looking to move Hawes, and if Favors, Thompson.

Having said that, I don't see anything on the Knicks that would really make sense for us. The only player that would seem to be worth it is Gallo, and he's really a PF IMO. I like Douglas all right, but he's just not worth it, and Chandler wouldn't be an upgrade over what we currently have at SF.

Re: Jason Thompson

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 9:19 pm
by haterade
Thanks Mitch, did Thompson fall out of favor with the coach? I know he was starting for awhile then lost his starting job and then I think regained it? It seemed like an inconsistent year for Thompson from an outsider's standpoint.

Re: Jason Thompson

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 9:31 pm
by pillwenney
I don't think he ever really fell out of favor. Hawes certainly did at times. But Jason's production just got worse after an awesome first couple of months. But it's hard for a coach to stay mad at a guy that works like Jason does.

Re: Jason Thompson

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 9:34 pm
by RoyalCourtJestr
I think no matter who we draft, it's Hawes' turn to leave, not Jason's. Jason's play fell off the face of the Earth - but unlike Hawes' production, it wasn't because of whiney complaints. I think JTs gonna recover this year, and he can play both PF and C to some extent, and Hawes really can't, so. Unless he finds a sick deal that NEEDS Thompson, I expect him to stay.

Re: Jason Thompson

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 10:54 pm
by 10B10
Lightning Strike wrote:I think no matter who we draft, it's Hawes' turn to leave, not Jason's. Jason's play fell off the face of the Earth - but unlike Hawes' production, it wasn't because of whiney complaints. I think JTs gonna recover this year, and he can play both PF and C to some extent, and Hawes really can't, so. Unless he finds a sick deal that NEEDS Thompson, I expect him to stay.


Agreed. If we draft big, then I think Hawes is going to have to fight to keep his spot on this roster. I see JT, at the very least, as a good third big man off of the bench. At this point, I'm not sure I can say the same about Spencer.

Re: Jason Thompson

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 11:03 pm
by SacKingZZZ
Yet the team looked much better once Hawes was inserted into the lineup. Thompson and Landry in the front court just has ZERO chance of working. If we draft Cousins moving Hawes probably makes the most sense since JT would then become an awesome 3rd big, but if it came down to moving one or the other I'm keeping the guy that can shoot, pass, is younger, bigger, and actually fits with Landry. Jason probably has more trade value as well since most teams probably need a rebounding PF with some skill like JT.

Re: Jason Thompson

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 12:39 am
by cuad
Both guys stay, since Landry probably bolts after this year.

Re: Jason Thompson

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 12:45 am
by SacKingZZZ
Eh, with the hype the Kings are laying on Carl I think they look to keep him unless we get a huge name PF in the draft or via FA. Next year will decide what happens with Carl, but I've seen enough of Jason Thompson to know he's not the answer at PF for us.

Re: Jason Thompson

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 1:06 am
by Bac2Basics
I think all 3 of Thompson, Landry and Hawes are likely to stay, barring some trade of a big name big man, I don't think anyone that Sacramento drafts will clearly send any of the 3 out that easily.

Re: Jason Thompson

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 5:16 am
by ICMTM
I don't know...after seeing Landry I think his role is best off the bench like it was in Houston. I'm not saying anyone on the current roster deserves more (or less really) minutes. I'm just saying I don't see Landry as a long term solution.

Re: Jason Thompson

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 5:36 am
by longfellow44
I think Landry is a very good player but it's clear that he's a bench player. A very good bench player but with him as our go to post scorer the team struggled. In fact the team was much more effective with a Thompson and Hawes lineup due to the size factor alone.

I also think that with the kings falling to 5th in the Draft Thompson's value to the franchise just went up as well.

Re: Jason Thompson

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 6:51 am
by SacKingZZZ
I saw nothing about Landry to convince me he's a "bench" player. I think somebody that gets you nearly 20 ppg on over 50% shooting is probably quite a bit more than a bencher. Now he may be more valuable off the bench in the type of role he had in Houston but he's much more than a bench player talent wise.

Re: Jason Thompson

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 5:06 pm
by ICMTM
SacKingZZZ wrote:I saw nothing about Landry to convince me he's a "bench" player. I think somebody that gets you nearly 20 ppg on over 50% shooting is probably quite a bit more than a bencher. Now he may be more valuable off the bench in the type of role he had in Houston but he's much more than a bench player talent wise.


ppg on a losing team has never been an impressive stat to me. Even still name one contender that's dying to have Landry as their starting 4? Case closed.

Re: Jason Thompson

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 8:07 pm
by pillwenney
Landry is a great scorer, but not a dominant scorer. There are circumstances where he can be stopped. So with that, I think he is better off as a bench player. But with our team as it is, he's by far the best offensive weapon we have among our bigs, and I think he's the best fit starting next to Aldrich.

Re: Jason Thompson

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 9:56 pm
by deNIEd
mitchweber wrote:Landry is a great scorer, but not a dominant scorer. There are circumstances where he can be stopped. So with that, I think he is better off as a bench player. But with our team as it is, he's by far the best offensive weapon we have among our bigs, and I think he's the best fit starting next to Aldrich.


Agreed.

Landry currently is our best big. Landry on a contending team belongs as the 6th man/3rd big. Just goes to show you how bad our roster is.

Landry isn't a solid go-to scorer. Like Mitch said, you can easily stop Landry and you can't rely on him to carry your team in close games....something you need from your starters if you are serious about contending. Landry ideally, would be that spark off the bench and the difference maker in close games, similar to Odom/Rasheed are for LAL/Bos.

Re: Jason Thompson

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 10:11 pm
by pillwenney
I wouldn't say you can "easily" stop him. But my point is simply that he's not a main option.

And to be clear, there are circumstances where I would bring him off the bench. I just think that if we're going to draft and start Aldrich, in that hypothetical scenario, we'd start Landry.

Re: Jason Thompson

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 10:52 pm
by SacKingZZZ
ICMTM wrote:ppg on a losing team has never been an impressive stat to me. Even still name one contender that's dying to have Landry as their starting 4? Case closed.



Depends on how exclusively you use the word "contender". It's a tough argument, would you not take Chris Bosh because he's on a losing team? If that were the requirements of Sacramento PF I guess Chris Webber never would have set foot in Sacramento, huh?

Just for sh#t's and giggles I'd say the Magic wouldn't mind having him at all. Finally give them someone who can play off of Dwight while also being able to score inside. Don't forget, the Kings view Landry as a player that is still going to get better and are interested in seeing by how much.

Re: Jason Thompson

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 10:56 pm
by SacKingZZZ
deNIEd wrote:
mitchweber wrote:Landry is a great scorer, but not a dominant scorer. There are circumstances where he can be stopped. So with that, I think he is better off as a bench player. But with our team as it is, he's by far the best offensive weapon we have among our bigs, and I think he's the best fit starting next to Aldrich.


Agreed.

Landry currently is our best big. Landry on a contending team belongs as the 6th man/3rd big. Just goes to show you how bad our roster is.

Landry isn't a solid go-to scorer. Like Mitch said, you can easily stop Landry and you can't rely on him to carry your team in close games....something you need from your starters if you are serious about contending. Landry ideally, would be that spark off the bench and the difference maker in close games, similar to Odom/Rasheed are for LAL/Bos.



He did it more than a few times in just the few months he was here, did it multiple times with the Rockets and rated higher than just about anyone else in the league in 4th quarter points..... but sure, whatever you say. :wink:

Re: Jason Thompson

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 1:47 am
by OGSactownballer
I know that I am in the minority here, but I really feel that if Cousins doesn't look to drop to 5 then we trade either up to get him or down to gain additional picks or assets. I personally see Landry as the key to moving Noc out and getting in an all-star to pair with Tyreke either at the wing or at point - moving Beno to the third guard role which suits him best and allowing the young bigs to continue to develop. Don't forget Cousins strengvth is post offense, and with Landry eating that up with starters minutes you are basically undersizing yourself in the West.