What should the Kings do on draft night

[desquivel18]

There are alot of things that the team can do with the 5th pick. A lot of people say that if Demarcus Cousins falls into their laps that they should take him. Personally i dont think that should be a sure thing because drafting cousins seems like too much of a risk due to his bad character and his weight issues (hes up to 290 now). Also because Spencer Hawes is only 22 and he still has alot of potential to be a really good center. The only reason i believe that he hasnt progressed is because hes had a different coach each season that hes been in the league.The team should give spencer one more year to prove himself and if he doesnt progress than no more excuses, its time to draft a new big man to put at center. So i think that with the 5th pick the Kings should draft Al Farouq Aminu. They should also consider trading their pick to Detroit who has been looking to move up and snag cousins. And with the 7th pick they should see if aminu is still available or trade up again with memphis who is looking at greg monroe at #7. This would leave the Kings with the 12th and 25th pick. With the 12th they can draft Xavier Henry who would be a very good compliment to tyreke with his nice shooting, and with the 25th pick they can draft eric bledsoe or see if possibly daniel orton falls to them. (its more likely orton doesnt fall so i'll stick to bledsoe). Bledsoe is a potentially great point guard who didnt get to showoff and hurt his stock because he was playing behind wall. In the 2nd round they should look for Solomon Alabi who is a big 7'1 player who can give minutes while Hawes and Thompson are on the bench.

This draft night could potentially leave us with:
C Hawes/Thompson/Alabi
PF Thompson/Landry/Brockman
SF Aminu/Casspi/Greene
SG Evans/Garcia/Greene
PG Udrih/Evans/Garcia

OR
C Hawes/Thompson/Alabi
PF Thompson/Landry/Brockman
SF Greene/Casspi/ Garcia
SG Henry/Garcia/Greene
PG Evans/Udrih/Bledsoe

[RoyalCourtJestr]

What I would like to see them do -

Take Cousins - or Johnson - at #5. Don't pass on talent because of a 19 year old's reported immaturity - rather pass on guys for talent reasons (Aminu IMHO).

That's all.

[moosachi]

im gettin kinda tired of people underestimating casspi. 1) the first half of the year he was averaging almost 16 points a game... as a rookie. its westphals fault that he stopped playing him.. so oviously, when minutes go down so do numbers. 2) this kid has a work ethic that is so underated. in the summer league, he struggled, and preaseason he struggled. then h worked his ass off into the starting lineup. casspi is better than greene by far, and wstley johnnson and aminu would mess casspi's promising career up. so cousins is the best option, and everyone needs to stop sleeping on casspi

[longfellow44]

^^I'll agree that we need to stop sleeping on Casspi. I think he's our starter at SF for a long time. He's talented and sure he crashed into that rookie wall pretty hard last season but I think he's going to rebound quite well in his 2nd season.

As to the pick. I'm all for Cousins at 5 he is a little over weight but as I posted in the other Forum at 292lbs he only has 16% body fat. That is simply amazing, it means that he is naturally built that way and he should be able to carry a slightly lower weight as his prime playing weight for years. Also he has reported that hes never lifted weights. he is as strong as he is and he has never lifted weights. Lets try this Put him in a weight room all summer and watch him come back in this fall stronger and at a lower weight roughly 280lbs that is only a 12lb loss but that lowers his body fat to a respectable 12%.

If we really don't like Cousins because of his attitude we look to trade down to 7 and take Aldrich. His numbers were a little short for the combine but you can't deny that defensive talent.

And if were not feeling either guy then I'm looking at trading the pick completely away and focusing on finding that big man through trade.

But All said and Done i"m taking cousins.

[moosachi]

THANK YOU!! finally someone realizes.. another thing.. he used to go all out every practice and thats why he was so tired. but he now understands how to manage himself for a whole season, but good observation on the pick above me

[longfellow44]

I've had Cousins picked since the 1st mocks came out with him sitting at pick #28. Since that time he has clearly climbed the draft charts and further more his climb up to consideration for a top 3 pick coincided with the kings losses. His stock basically climbed due to our interest and specific need. And since we have fallen out of the top 5 some of the interest in him has declined and now he is possibly going to be available at the 5th pick.

[desquivel18]

im not quitting on casspi at all. i just think he would be an ideal 6th man off the bench because of his energy

[City of Trees]

im gettin kinda tired of people underestimating casspi. 1) the first half of the year he was averaging almost 16 points a game... as a rookie. its westphals fault that he stopped playing him.. so oviously, when minutes go down so do numbers. 2) this kid has a work ethic that is so underated. in the summer league, he struggled, and preaseason he struggled. then h worked his ass off into the starting lineup. casspi is better than greene by far, and wstley johnnson and aminu would mess casspi's promising career up. so cousins is the best option, and everyone needs to stop sleeping on casspi

kid has skills... im not sleepin but i deff aint over hyping either. i need more from him like playing consistant for the entire season. not just 2 months of play.. he will have his opportunity this year to be our starter (based on we draft big) or him being 1st or 2nd off the bench for the next couple seasons to come.. imo he is 6th man... greene is a beast! casspi is more polished but greene is a potential match up nightmare if he grows up like we all think he can.... im really rooting for donte!!


as for what the kings should do..... drafft cousins or johnson whoever is there... 33rd pick im crossin my fingers for warren or bledsoe. i prefer warren

[SacKingZZZ]

Have to take whoever's left in this 5 man draft. Cousins or Johnson most likely.

[king125]

Whoever lands at 5 for us (Cousins or Johnson) we take him. This draft has star potential in the top 5 and then there is a drop off in talent. And yes I love Casspi but he is not as good as Greene and is more ideal off the bench.

Either...

Cousins
Landry
Greene
Udrih
Evans

with Hawes, Thompson, Casspi, and Garcia off the bench


or


Hawes/Thompson?
Landry
Greene
Johnson (yes as a SG)
Evans

with Hawes/Thompson?, Casspi, Udrih, Garcia off the bench

[God Squad]

Yeah. Yall are over hyping Casspi. He's pretty good. But take the BPA at #5. I would think Cousins or Wes Johnson. Aminu would be Dumb. I would actually laugh. Because a lot of other teams WILL take Cousins and Wes.

[perezident]

hey guys I just got an offer of Okafor and Brooks for Aldrich and Nocioni.
Should I bite??

[KF10]

hey guys I just got an offer of Okafor and Brooks for Aldrich and Nocioni.
Should I bite??

I wouldn't do it.

Look at Okafor's contract:

$11,795,000
$12,792,500
$13,790,000
$14,787,500

Total: $42,549,500

And look at Nocioni's:

$6,850,000
$6,650,000

Total: $13,500,000

Just by contracts alone, I wouldn't entertain a trade basis of Okafor/Nocioni, knowing that Aldrich can provide similarly defensive effort for insanely low cost amount compare to Okafor.

As much I like Brooks, he isn't enough incentive. (Especially, he is up for an extension soon).

[perezident]

I said the same thing....hmm Brooks is very tempting though

[ICMTM]

According to who we are working out so far (see the workout thread) It's apparent that we are probably taking a big @5. Demarcus Cousins and Ed Davis don't have a date to workout for the Kings yet.

It's looking more and more like Greg Monroe will be the pick?

[Photo Guy]

According to who we are working out so far (see the workout thread) It's apparent that we are probably taking a big @5. Demarcus Cousins and Ed Davis don't have a date to workout for the Kings yet.

It's looking more and more like Greg Monroe will be the pick?

It's the first week. I wouldn't put too much stock into this until the end of workouts in a couple weeks.

I think if Cousins is available at #5 you have to pick him. But if not, I'm totally fine with either Johnson or Monroe as the pick. In fact, they may actually end up being the better players when all is said and done, particularly Johnson. He's really lighting up my fancy the more I learn about him and watch his film.

[ICMTM]

According to who we are working out so far (see the workout thread) It's apparent that we are probably taking a big @5. Demarcus Cousins and Ed Davis don't have a date to workout for the Kings yet.

It's looking more and more like Greg Monroe will be the pick?

It's the first week. I wouldn't put too much stock into this until the end of workouts in a couple weeks.

I think if Cousins is available at #5 you have to pick him. But if not, I'm totally fine with either Johnson or Monroe as the pick. In fact, they may actually end up being the better players when all is said and done, particularly Johnson. He's really lighting up my fancy the more I learn about him and watch his film.

I'm not basing this off what I want. It's obvious we aren't getting Wall, Turner, or Favors. Truthfully I haven't seen where Minnesota is passing on Cousins, nor have I seen where we are enamored with him. There's also a ? mark at the end of the sentence...implying that it's not a sure thing.

[ICMTM]

Actually the more I look at Monroe:

1. I don't see Brad Miller (and why he's compared to him is because he's a big that can pass?)
2. His lack of athleticism seems to be grossly over stated. Even if you compare his combine numbers to guys like Cousins and Aldrich they are in the same ballpark. He's not a freak athlete, but he's way more athletic than Brad even when Miller was an All Star:

Okay I went to YouTube just to make sure I'm just not remembering the OLD Brad Miller right before we traded him and yeah Miller lost a couple steps before he left town...even still I think Monroe is more athletic than Brad Miller

3. I looked at some HS footage and he played off the dribble a lot. He won't be able to play like a wing as a big in the NBA, but I'm just seeing a big man who can pass, shoot, dribble, rebound, block a shot, and defend. He probably won't be the best at any one of those things, but he appears to be pretty formidable at everything. This just looks like a Petrie pick, no?

He's also coming into town and going through a private workout on Sunday so read the Kings Blog on it afterwards. I doubt we will see any video on it like the super workout last year?

[perezident]

Not to mention Munroe is only 19!! He'll be a terrific fit here... he's a nice offensive player to! Imagine if we can get a big man coach to show him the ropes! Chris Webber anyone?

[SacKingZZZ]

Actually the more I look at Monroe:

1. I don't see Brad Miller (and why he's compared to him is because he's a big that can pass?)
2. His lack of athleticism seems to be grossly over stated. Even if you compare his combine numbers to guys like Cousins and Aldrich they are in the same ballpark. He's not a freak athlete, but he's way more athletic than Brad even when Miller was an All Star:

Okay I went to YouTube just to make sure I'm just not remembering the OLD Brad Miller right before we traded him and yeah Miller lost a couple steps before he left town...even still I think Monroe is more athletic than Brad Miller

3. I looked at some HS footage and he played off the dribble a lot. He won't be able to play like a wing as a big in the NBA, but I'm just seeing a big man who can pass, shoot, dribble, rebound, block a shot, and defend. He probably won't be the best at any one of those things, but he appears to be pretty formidable at everything. This just looks like a Petrie pick, no?

He's also coming into town and going through a private workout on Sunday so read the Kings Blog on it afterwards. I doubt we will see any video on it like the super workout last year?

Not a real threat on defense and has rather limited athletic ability. I think he'll be better than Brad Miller but have a somewhat similar on court impact.