Playing time and lineups?

[king125]

How do you see the lineups and playing time next season? To start the season I would guess.....

Dalembert 22/ Cousins 26
Landry 25/ Thompson 23
Greene 25/ Casspi 23
Beno 18/ Garcia 18/ Evans 10
Evans 28/ Beno 12/ FA? 10

that leaves totals at Evans (38), Beno (30), Cousins (26), Landry (25), Greene (25), Thompson (23), Casspi (23), Dalembert (22), Garcia (18), FA pg (10)

[jeffjtk1234]

How do you see the lineups and playing time next season? To start the season I would guess.....

Dalembert 22/ Cousins 26
Landry 25/ Thompson 23
Greene 25/ Casspi 23
Beno 18/ Garcia 18/ Evans 10
Evans 28/ Beno 12/ FA? 10

that leaves totals at Evans (38), Beno (30), Cousins (26), Landry (25), Greene (25), Thompson (23), Casspi (23), Dalembert (22), Garcia (18), FA pg (10)

I do not think Cousins plays more minutes than Dally this year. Maybe after the trade deadline when we deal Dally.

[cdt3]

Thompson haters....Check out the game where Thompson and CLandry played each other last year.

Thompson 9/15 for 27/11/2 in 37mins

CLandry 1/6 for 2/3/1 in 17 mins

Landry should have had assault charges filed for that beatdown by Thompson.

You Thompson haters are hilarious.

Thompson last year in an alledgedly terrible year shot .484. Duncan, LaMarcus Aldridge, and Bosh have shot similar %s. Bosh and Dalembert shot that % in 2009. Guys like LA or Duncan (lifetime is only a .508 shooter) or Bosh score by getting to the FT line. That is the playoff recipe. Even CWebb, Shaq, Duncan, Gasol all are excellent at drawing fouls. Landry is not. Which is why Thompson was recruited by a team that had legit title hopes in UCLA until he turned it down to play near home with his brother at Ryder.

Only the Maloofs (or you Thompson haters) would trade and give touches to Landry and give them to a guy who is not as good as Thompson. In the 3 big categories scoring, rebounding and block shots Thompson is better in 2 out of the 3. Thompson is proven and wins. But the Maloofs want needless flash to go with Bill Walton.

And Dalembert and Thomspon are equal. Thompson is the better offensive, Dalembert the better defender. They are even both 6-11 250. They are probably very good compliments and play together.

[jeffjtk1234]

Thompson haters....Check out the game where Thompson and CLandry played each other last year.

Thompson 9/15 for 27/11/2 in 37mins

CLandry 1/6 for 2/3/1 in 17 mins

Landry should have had assault charges filed for that beatdown by Thomspon.

You Thompson haters are hilarious.

Thompson last year in an alledgedly terrible year shot .484. Duncan, LaMarcus Aldridge, and Bosh have shot similar %s. Bosh and Dalembert shot that % in 2009. Guys like LA or Duncan (lifetime is only a .508 shooter) or Bosh score by getting to the FT line. That is the playoff recipe. Even CWebb was excellent at drawing fouls. Landry is not. Which is why Thompson was recruited by a team that had legit title hopes in UCLA until he turned it down to play near home with his brother at Ryder.

Only the Maloofs (or you Thompson haters) would trade and give touches to Landry and give them to a guy who is not as good as Thompson. In the 3 big categories scoring, rebounding and block shots Thompson is better in 2 out of the 3. Thompson is proven and wins. But the Maloofs want needless flash to go with Bill Walton.

And Dalembert and Thomspon are equal. Thompson is the better offensive, Dalembert the better defender. They are even both 6-11 250. They are probably very good compliments and play together.

Jason?!?!?!

I am not seeing the point of this post...lol no one is hating on him on this board homey

[YC42Balla]

^^He's upset because, in the other guys post.. Jason's not in the starting lineup.
But the thing is, nobody here hates Thompson lol!! we're all kings fans right?
Then why would any one hate on JT?? lol

--Anyways, I like Thompson a lot, and would potentially like to see him an cousins start. And get some valuable playing minutes.

Because ultimately, they're are future at those selected spots.. although it does seem to me that Landry is playing solidly and more consistently at the PF position. but I'd like to see him come off the bench as are 6th man. (maybe he could win the 6th man of the year award)

--The whole Dally vs. Cousins "starting thing".. I'm sure if cousins doesn't start in the beginning of the this season, that he's gonna win the spot as the season progresses. Cousins is way better then Dally or potentially better anyways.. And I know he hasn't played yet, so I can see why he would sit the bench at first.. but I see him taking over the starting rule sooner then later this season. He has so much upside/talent!! He can bang down low, shoot, pass, score, and can dribble like a point guard.

Theirs no way I see him coming off the bench for Dally for the whole season unless his D get lazy.

[YC42Balla]

How do you see the lineups and playing time next season? To start the season I would guess.....

Dalembert 22/ Cousins 26
Landry 25/ Thompson 23
Greene 25/ Casspi 23
Beno 18/ Garcia 18/ Evans 10
Evans 28/ Beno 12/ FA? 10

that leaves totals at Evans (38), Beno (30), Cousins (26), Landry (25), Greene (25), Thompson (23), Casspi (23), Dalembert (22), Garcia (18), FA pg (10)

I do not think Cousins plays more minutes than Dally this year. Maybe after the trade deadline when we deal Dally.

I easily see Cousins getting more playing minutes.. as long as he's not lazy on D, and he has his head on straight, and proves to himself to Westphal he the guy..

their's nothing that can stop him from starting/getting more minutes. The NBA is all about "the green stuff," Fans want to see the best product out their and right now Cousins at starting Center would sell seats.

Plus the GM/Coach wants to win and if Cousins is playing better, then he starts period.. and not only that but Cousins is going for "Rookie of the year" why stop him by sitting his a** on the bench and giving him less playing time??!!

Doesn't make much since to me.. just sounds foolish man!!

[DickVitale]

"Thompson Haters" ? That's a bit extreme.

I do not think there are many kings fans that hate Thompson. And I mean why would they, he is still young, talented and plays with a lot of heart. Thompson is genuinely a nice person, he has a great personality and I and most any kings fan would hate to see him get traded. But obviously the nba is also a business - you've got to find the right combination of talent/fan favorite and productivity and be able to win at the same time ...

"Thompson is proven and wins"

Lets be honest here man, over the last few years the kings have gone 17-65 and 25-57 overall - you cannot call that "winning" and also calling 2 years "proven" is a bit of a stretch in its self. Lets be rational about Thompson - He is still young and could be a solid starting PF - He has shown decent growth as a player from year to year - if he keeps that up he'll be exactly what we need in about 2-3 years time.

Also there is a huge difference between Thompson and both Dally/Landry - The first thing and probably most noticeable thing that sticks out is the fact dally/landry have proven themselves over a much longer period of time then Thompson has. The second is that Dally is a prominently defensive player - while Landry is more of an all around type player - More so offensively then defensively and he can rebound - but he is under-sized imo. Also I think Landry is probably in the top 5 most underrated players in the nba if not top 3, he brings a lot of value to the team - has a very solid attitude and is consistent day in and day out. 1 other thing that I think people over look is that he can play the small forward spot - and create a lot of miss match there - Obviously it will depend on who we're playing against - but like an over sized team such as LAKERS - we can play big right a lot with them putting Landry at the 3, cousins 4 and dally 5... with Thompson as back up...

[SacTownKings4Life]

Wouldn't it be funny if the Kings got rookie of the year 2 years in a row, both from the seemingly least favorable draft positions? David Stern'll be pulling his hair out!

[SactownHrtBrks8]

I view it more like this at the moment

C - Dalembert (28) / Cousin (20)
PF - Landry (26) / Thompson (22)
SF - Greene (22) / Casspi (18) / Landry (8)

The gurad rotation i can't set until we figure out who we are getting in free agency

[SacKingZZZ]

Thompson haters....Check out the game where Thompson and CLandry played each other last year.

Thompson 9/15 for 27/11/2 in 37mins

CLandry 1/6 for 2/3/1 in 17 mins

Landry should have had assault charges filed for that beatdown by Thompson.

You Thompson haters are hilarious.

Thompson last year in an alledgedly terrible year shot .484. Duncan, LaMarcus Aldridge, and Bosh have shot similar %s. Bosh and Dalembert shot that % in 2009. Guys like LA or Duncan (lifetime is only a .508 shooter) or Bosh score by getting to the FT line. That is the playoff recipe. Even CWebb, Shaq, Duncan, Gasol all are excellent at drawing fouls. Landry is not. Which is why Thompson was recruited by a team that had legit title hopes in UCLA until he turned it down to play near home with his brother at Ryder.

Only the Maloofs (or you Thompson haters) would trade and give touches to Landry and give them to a guy who is not as good as Thompson. In the 3 big categories scoring, rebounding and block shots Thompson is better in 2 out of the 3. Thompson is proven and wins. But the Maloofs want needless flash to go with Bill Walton.

And Dalembert and Thomspon are equal. Thompson is the better offensive, Dalembert the better defender. They are even both 6-11 250. They are probably very good compliments and play together.

And then look at the stats that Landry put up playing for the Kings!

[SacKingZZZ]

Yuck, as I alluded to a minutes crunch in the other thread, I don't like that platooning at PF/C. Daly was complaining about 26mpg in Philly so he's OK with 20-22 in a contract year!? Probably wishful thinking. Cousins is ready to come in a play right away to the tune of 20mpg!? Yuck. Playing Landry/Thompson under 25 mpg each might be a good idea since their cumulative values will plummet possibly making them both cheaper to re-sign. It's tough and I really don't think there is any way to plan out the numbers to make everyone happy, Petrie has work to do!

In a perfect world it would start off like this:

PG: Tyreke 36 / Garcia 8 / Beno 4
SG: Beno 24 / Garcia 16 / Greene 8
SF: Casspi 24 / Greene 12 / Landry 10
PF: Landry 24 / Thompson 24
C: Daly 24 mpg / Cousins 24

And throughout the season how well the team plays will determine what happens moving forward. Obviously best case is Cousins is so good you can't take him off the floor.

[villatrynity154]

i see it ideally like this:

Beno 24/Garcia 10/Tyreke 14
Tyreke 22/Garcia 11/ FA Bomber 15
Omri 24/Greene 20/Garcia 4
Jason 22/Landry 22/Greene 4
Cousins 24/Dalembert 24

Brockman Garbage PT/Whiteside D-league

[longfellow44]

The way I see it.
Beno 30/FA 14/ Garcia 4
Tyreke 34/Garcia 14
Casspi 25/Greene 21/Landry 2
Landry 31/ Thompson 17
Dalembert 22/Thompson 13/Cousins 13

After the trade Deadline
Beno 30/FA 14/ Garcia 4
Tyreke 34/Garcia 14
Casspi 25/Greene23
Landry 31/Thompson 10/Whiteside 7
Cousins 25/ Thompson 20/ Whitedside 3

Thats the way I see it, Cousins only played 23 minutes a game in college it will take him a little time to develop the endurance to play the NBA game.

[villatrynity154]

i don't think we trade dalembert unless whiteside shows that he can contribute this season...this means stay on the court and average 5 pts/6 reb/2 blks and given that circumstance i see the PT line-up as:

Beno 24/Garcia 10/Tyreke 14
Tyreke 22/Garcia 11/ FA Bomber 15
Omri 24/Greene 20/Garcia 4
Jason 22/Landry 22/Greene 4
Cousins 31/Whiteside 11/Brockman 6

[deNIEd]

The way I see it.
Beno 30/FA 14/ Garcia 4
Tyreke 34/Garcia 14
Casspi 25/Greene 21/Landry 2
Landry 31/ Thompson 17
Dalembert 22/Thompson 13/Cousins 13

Honestly?!!!

You're paying Garcia what, 6-7 mil to play 18 minutes a game?

[longfellow44]

Im not worried about how much we pay him, we have too many guys on rookie scale deals to worry about that. He gets 18 minutez a game because thats how he helps us win games, and i think my numbers should be relatively accurate based in actual minutes logged for each player in the past. Garcia may find a few more but i dont foresee anything beyond a max of 24 per game.

I think garcia has lost some of his minutes to casspi and greene, his only chance to really gain minutes is at the pg spot where he can be effective for amshort period but not for very long

[SmiIIs91]

This is with our current roster. I put Javaris Crittenton in there, Dionte Christmas from summer league in there and Udoka. But they don't affect the minutes.

Tyreke (35) / J-Critt (1)

Beno (32) / Garcia (25) / Udoka (6) / Dionte Christmas! (0)

Greene (21) / Casspi (24)

Thompson (20) / Landry (28) / Brockman (0)

Cousins (24) / Dalembert (24) / Whiteside (0)

Everyone's minutes are the same as last year except for Thompson who loses 1/3 of his minutes and Udoka who loses half. (Landry played 28mpg in Houston before 37mpg in sac.) The only weakness on this roster is experience.

[Silver Man]

Wow, looking at our shooting guard rotation i'm going to pray every night we get someone who is at least suitable because having a rotation of Beno, Garcia right is making me sick.

Right now I'll add in the minutes when we add our other free agents, but as of right now.

Tyreke Evans // Beno Udrih
Beno Udrih // Garcia (Ugh) //Donte Greene
Omri Casspi // Donte Greene
Jason Thompson // Carl Landry // Jon Brockman
Samuel Dalembert // DeMarcus Cousins // Hassan Whiteside

[SmiIIs91]

Wow, looking at our shooting guard rotation i'm going to pray every night we get someone who is at least suitable because having a rotation of Beno, Garcia right is making me sick.

You know a guy by the name of Tyreke Evans is in the guard rotation as well...

[Silver Man]

I was talking more shooting guard like I said and with what we have right now I believe Evans will play a majority of his time at point guard instead of SG. He'll get time at Sg just not as much. Still with him Beno and Garcia is pretty weak for getting the majority of minutes.