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Greene v Casspi

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:56 pm
by ICMTM
Folks,

I like both players equally but I just think Donte Greene is more a two than a three. If they both live up to their shooting potential what's wrong with them playing a long side each other? I honestly think this is our best lineup going forward anyway:

Evans/Udrih
Greene/Udrih/Garcia
Casspi/Garcia
Thompson/Landry
Cousins/Dalembert

I just think that's a solid nine man rotation. I think Casspi and Greene are our best wings. I don't think they are identical players either so why not?

Re: Greene v Casspi

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:58 pm
by JSrose115
can't forget sloan and maybe landesberg. I do like downey though.

Re: Greene v Casspi

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:08 pm
by PaKwAn
both casspi and donte can play together in spurts, i say in spurts because both are not really good ball handler's and when good team's see this, they would trap and pressure the kings making it hard for our team to set play's or even cross the court....

both can be nightmare problems for oppositions because of there height but what they both lack is a back to the basket game and post up guys much shorter than they are.. right now they are face up type of players and players that are good in the open court...

Re: Greene v Casspi

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:08 pm
by moosachi
You can't honestly think either of those 2 are better than casspi or greene.. But I think donte has improved his ball handling enough to play the 2 reliably. Management was always talking about a shooter next to tyreke and donte and casspi have both proved to be good shooters with more room to develop their shots even more

Re: Greene v Casspi

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:09 pm
by moosachi
You can't honestly think either of those 2 are better than casspi or greene.. But I think donte has improved his ball handling enough to play the 2 reliably. Management was always talking about a shooter next to tyreke and donte and casspi have both proved to be good shooters with more room to develop their shots even more

Re: Greene v Casspi

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:12 pm
by Bac2Basics
Greene can play the 2 in limited minutes, but having it be his primary position on a long term basis I think is a mistake.

Re: Greene v Casspi

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:46 pm
by twoolfork1
At 6"11' it is hard to see Greene as our long term starting SG. He's more of a rudy gay type wing slasher that fits better at the 3 position. Same with Cassipi who was reportedly working out with rudy gay in Vegas. I think both of those guys would need to improve their ball handeling and passing skills before they become our starting 2 because Tyreke cant do all of the dribbling and setting up the offense by himself.

Re: Greene v Casspi

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:00 pm
by Wolfay
I think Beno has to start. He's at his best when he's starting next to Tyreke, and he loses much of his effectiveness coming off the bench. I don't think there's any questioning that.

Re: Greene v Casspi

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:31 pm
by ICMTM
Wolfay wrote:I think Beno has to start. He's at his best when he's starting next to Tyreke, and he loses much of his effectiveness coming off the bench. I don't think there's any questioning that.

In the short term I agree. Long term though I envision Donte a better ball handler.

Re: Greene v Casspi

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:24 pm
by YC42Balla
ICMTM wrote:Folks,

I like both players equally but I just think Donte Greene is more a two than a three. If they both live up to their shooting potential what's wrong with them playing a long side each other? I honestly think this is our best lineup going forward anyway:

Evans/Udrih
Greene/Udrih/Garcia
Casspi/Garcia
Thompson/Landry
Cousins/Dalembert

I just think that's a solid nine man rotation. I think Casspi and Greene are our best wings. I don't think they are identical players either so why not?


That would be a pretty sick lineup!! are team would be HUGE!!
PG-6'6" SG-6'11" sf-6'9" pf-6'11" c-6'11" lmao!! that would be hard to guard any time of the week!!

I think Donte can play the 2, the only thing people are worried about is his Defense while guarding the two... but I really don't think that's a problem he guarded Kobe pretty good!! swatted a few shot of his.. I'd love to see him at the 2!!

Re: Greene v Casspi

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:26 pm
by Draino
I really see no problem with them two playing together, he might struggle a little on the defensive end but, him being 6'11" would make up for it i think. Evans is MUCH more effective when he plays PG (mostly because of size difference... but Evans/Greene/Casspi/Thompson/Cousins would be the lineup i would go with as well.

Re: Greene v Casspi

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:53 pm
by moosachi
twoolfork1 wrote:At 6"11' it is hard to see Greene as our long term starting SG. He's more of a rudy gay type wing slasher that fits better at the 3 position. Same with Cassipi who was reportedly working out with rudy gay in Vegas. I think both of those guys would need to improve their ball handeling and passing skills before they become our starting 2 because Tyreke cant do all of the dribbling and setting up the offense by himself.

Where did u hear about the casspi Rudy gay workouts

Re: Greene v Casspi

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:12 am
by OGSactownballer
See this eventually being our closing lineup, but not necessarily the starters. Honestly though that is pretty much irrelevant. Look at the current Lakers as a perfect example. bynum starts but Odom sees the majority of minutes and closes.

Re: Greene v Casspi

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:17 am
by moosachi
twoolfork1 wrote:At 6"11' it is hard to see Greene as our long term starting SG. He's more of a rudy gay type wing slasher that fits better at the 3 position. Same with Cassipi who was reportedly working out with rudy gay in Vegas. I think both of those guys would need to improve their ball handeling and passing skills before they become our starting 2 because Tyreke cant do all of the dribbling and setting up the offense by himself.

Where did u hear about the casspi Rudy gay workouts

Re: Greene v Casspi

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:56 am
by SacTownKings4Life
I suppose it wouldn't hurt anybody to at least experiment with playing them both together. It would save you money that you WOULD have spent to go get somebody, and you also wouldn't have to worry about stunting their development by sacrificing either one's minutes to accommodate a new addition. You would simply swap Garcia in periodically to give one a rest.
Our size advantage at every position would just be ridiculous! How do you have FOUR 6'9" or taller guys on the floor at once? With a 6'6" point guard. Wow.

Re: Greene v Casspi

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:20 am
by OGSactownballer
Just about hits on Pat Riley's old dream of five Magic's!

Re: Greene v Casspi

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:35 am
by longfellow44
I don't see Evans playing point guard long term and so I don't see a lineup starting both Greene and casspi as feasible. Evans is a playmaking SG. He did his best with beno on the court to help him run the offense. With that said I'm fine with either of greene or casspi starting. They are similar players bt casspi's high energy style should do well off the bench.

Re: Greene v Casspi

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:35 am
by moosachi
longfellow44 wrote:I don't see Evans playing point guard long term and so I don't see a lineup starting both Greene and casspi as feasible. Evans is a playmaking SG. He did his best with beno on the court to help him run the offense. With that said I'm fine with either of greene or casspi starting. They are similar players bt casspi's high energy style should do well off the bench.

'______' if anything it is greene who brings more energy off the bench

Re: Greene v Casspi

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:45 am
by Wolfay
ICMTM wrote:
Wolfay wrote:I think Beno has to start. He's at his best when he's starting next to Tyreke, and he loses much of his effectiveness coming off the bench. I don't think there's any questioning that.

In the short term I agree. Long term though I envision Donte a better ball handler.


I'd love to see a 6'11" guy at the 2, but I don't know if it would work. He might be able to handle the ball as well as Beno, but can he distribute like Beno too? The good thing about Donte though, is that he has such a rare combination of size and athletic ability that he'll be a matchup nightmare pretty much anywhere we put him.

Re: Greene v Casspi

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:21 pm
by VeeJay24
I don't know if he can play there all the time but it'll probably be good in spurts and now is the time to experiment with it.

I do know they need to find a shooter to pair with Reke perferably a combo type PG making the 2 guards interchangable. Right now I have Bayless of Portland in mind. I too see Beno as a short term solution, there has to be an upgrade.

I did like what I saw of Christmas; I've been waiting to see him because I liked him a lot at Temple and he came in cold yesterday to replace Ryan Thompson (who also looks good by the way) and did an excellent job.