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Melo?

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:44 am
by sacking101
Other than tyreke and cousins I would be willing to trade anyone for him barring an extension was somehow possible. I think we have the pieces to get him. We have big expiring and young talent which is what they are probably looking for. The only question is would he most likely bolt once his contract is up?

dalembert thompson casspi or donte for melo

starting linup
Beno
tyreke
melo
landry
cousins

with whitesides, donte, garcia off the bench.
It's a lot to give up but I would do it only if melo stuck around.

Re: Melo?

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:15 am
by SacTownKings4Life
No. We'd have to completely dismantle our entire roster and everything we've been trying to build just to get him. And then it all goes down the drain WHEN he walks next year...

Re: Melo?

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:14 am
by king125
100% yes if he signed an extension. 100% no if he wouldnt. A core of Evans, Cousins, and Anthony would be a championship contender in 2 years and for the next 8-9 following. We probably have the best situation to make it happen. But i think Melo wants to be in the bright lights of a big market.

Re: Melo?

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:21 am
by sacking101
king125 wrote:100% yes if he signed an extension. 100% no if he wouldnt. A core of Evans, Cousins, and Anthony would be a championship contender in 2 years and for the next 8-9 following. We probably have the best situation to make it happen. But i think Melo wants to be in the bright lights of a big market.


Exactly. Obviously we wouldn't give him up if he's gonna walk right when he can, but we do have the pieces to get him.

Re: Melo?

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:16 am
by JSrose115
Would love to have Melo here but I highly doubt we get him nor signs an extension with us. We are still rebuilding.

Re: Melo?

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:24 am
by Bac2Basics
Unless we got him for far less than one would expect to have to give up, I think this is highly unlikely

Re: Melo?

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:27 am
by Wolfay
king125 wrote:100% yes if he signed an extension. 100% no if he wouldnt. A core of Evans, Cousins, and Anthony would be a championship contender in 2 years and for the next 8-9 following. We probably have the best situation to make it happen. But i think Melo wants to be in the bright lights of a big market.


I agree with this entire post. We'd have a our "big three" to compete with the likes of Miami. If he's signed long term, and we can get him without losing any major assets like Evans or Cousins (unlikely, I agree) then I think you have to do it. If Melo is truly concerned about winning, he has to give our team a look.

Re: Melo?

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:34 am
by Silver Man
If he signs an extension with us then I wouldn't mind gettting him at all, but I doubt he would want to sign an extension with us so no without an extension. I mean if we can get Carmelo for Thompson, Dally and Greene or Casspi then I see in no circumstance that we wouldn't do this deal, but with that being said doubt he'd sign a contract with us so I'm not getting my hopes up.

Re: Melo?

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 5:52 am
by Krimzen
Does there have to be a thread for every pipedream? Melo isn't coming here because we won't trade for him unless he agrees to sign an extension. He won't do that for a franchise like Sacramento, especially when we would have to give up a chunk of our young talent to get him.

Melo will want to go to bigger media market, preferably to a team that already has another playoff-proven big name for him to work with. In a few years if Tyreke and Cousins continue to develop and some other players emerge, we will be a playoff team that becomes a much more desirable destination. Until then, no big star is going to come here. They aren't going to be interested in waiting for our young talent to pan out while they are buried in a smaller media market with a modest national profile.

Re: Melo?

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:05 pm
by dozencousins
Krimzen wrote:Does there have to be a thread for every pipedream? Melo isn't coming here because we won't trade for him unless he agrees to sign an extension. He won't do that for a franchise like Sacramento, especially when we would have to give up a chunk of our young talent to get him.

Melo will want to go to bigger media market, preferably to a team that already has another playoff-proven big name for him to work with. In a few years if Tyreke and Cousins continue to develop and some other players emerge, we will be a playoff team that becomes a much more desirable destination. Until then, no big star is going to come here. They aren't going to be interested in waiting for our young talent to pan out while they are buried in a smaller media market with a modest national profile.


100% agreed on this Krimzen :

Additionaly to all the big 3 scenerio is not new at all there have been alot of past teams you could say had a big 3 in the past to to name a few though i can think of at least 15 more qoute unqoute big 3 teams.

M.JOHNSON , KAREEM , WORTHY
BIRD , MCHALE , PARRISH
JORDAN , PIPPEN & you can insert your 3rd between RODMAN & H.GRANT
MALONE , STOCKTON , HORNACEK
DR. J , MALONE & M.CHEEKS

You win titles with big 3 players & sometimes you fail

I only mentioned modern error big 3's just a few of them we can talk allday about more of them some much further in the past teams that BILL RUSSELL were on etc. & more modern day
some of the big 3 i mentioned on paper does not look nearly as sexy so to speak as the big 3 of LEBRON , WADE & BOSH .

I find it amazing how most are ready to throwe several of titles the HEATS way & that may happen but just as easily as it could it may not . I guarantee all of you 1 thing the HEAT wont win the title this next year & I doubt they win 1 the year after as well.

By the way were not getting MELO so this is pointless..

Re: Melo?

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 5:52 pm
by ICMTM
I don't see this trade as unreal at all.

If Shaq was traded for Odom, Butler, and Brian Grant after he made a trade demand I don't see Carmelo Anthony being traded for anything better. Ray Allen was traded for Szczerbiack, West, and Jeff Green. Pau Gasol was traded for Brown, Crittenton, Arron McKie, Marc Gasol, and two 1st rounders.

I can see Dalembert, Landry (or Whiteside), Casspi, and two 1st rounders being enough for Carmelo Anthony. Billups and Kenyon Martin (especially Martin) are on the backside of their careers. NenĂª is solid, but I see him in a similar mold as Jason Thompson.

You're never getting equal value for a superstar. Almost never. I think we got the better of the Richmond/Webber deal, but that's about it. I don't think he'll be dealt to the Western Conference though?

The real question is would Carmelo Anthony be receptive to coming here? I don't know if he's willing to sign long term to play with unproven talent? He's been in the league since '03. Coming to play here would be high risk, but I think the reward would be higher. I don't think there's another ready made situation in the league right now for him other than maybe the Rockets, and that's gambling with the health of Yao Ming.

The Nuggets have to also decide if they are going to try and remain competitive or rebuild. The recent trend is to rebuild. I think if they trade Melo and try to stay competitive like we did when Webber went down it would be a mistake. I don't know what their GM is thinking though?

Again I don't think the idea of Melo coming here is unheard of. I just think there are a lot of IF's to it.

Re: Melo?

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 7:08 pm
by pillwenney
Ehh...hard to see it happening, especially since Melo will likely have some say in where he goes.

If we can do it without giving up Reke or Boogie, then by all means go for it. I would just have my doubts, and it's not worth dismantling everything to get him. We'll be just fine standing pat.

Re: Melo?

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:45 pm
by bjax24
If theres any truth to the rumor they could trade Billups too THERE is one worth looking in to. A vet PG on this young team would make me :D .

Re: Melo?

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:45 pm
by ICMTM
mitchweber wrote:Ehh...hard to see it happening, especially since Melo will likely have some say in where he goes.

If we can do it without giving up Reke or Boogie, then by all means go for it. I would just have my doubts, and it's not worth dismantling everything to get him. We'll be just fine standing pat.


I'm with you. I just don't think it's unrealistic.

Re: Melo?

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 4:05 am
by OGSactownballer
ICMTM has the good point here.

It is not at all an unrealistic scenario to see Melo here - especially right at the point we are sitting going forward. Melo got a real close up look at what Tyreke can do to guys and what he is and will be last year and I think that he knows what side of THAT bread is buttered. Add Cousins to that mix and a boatload of capspace to get the missing pieces for contention and all of a sudden you realize that we wouldn't have to make a giant offer and gut the team to get him.

There really isn't any other sure situation right now where he would fit in that would give the long open window of opportunity that we can to him.

Re: Melo?

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:12 pm
by Kingsforlife
holy **** we are on their real list, the Nuggets Gm list Nets, Kings, Wolves but i dont wanna lose Casspi

Re: Melo?

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:58 pm
by DickVitale
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archi ... or_wolves/

Amazing - we're on a short list of teams, the possibility of this trade happening has me pumped!!!! Now I do not think any team would trade for melo with out an extension and obviously we're no different. And I think that melo would obviously have the final say on where he goes - you think he would be interested in going to the kings? I know we're unproven, but we do have alot of talent... maybe he would do a 2-4 year with us just to test out the possibility ... but question is if he did do a short contract how many years would be worth the players we'd have to give out? 3+?...

Re: Melo?

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 10:10 pm
by sacking101
I knew we would be in the mix. We have exactly what they want but i could see him going to the nets. DickVitale is right though no team is gonna give up young talent with no extension. That being said i think its definitely a possibility that we could have tyreke melo and cousins for the next few years at least. :pray:

Re: Melo?

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 10:40 pm
by FINGER
Man, thats a dream.
I would do like it!
But... I dont believe Caramelo want it.
So, God help Petrie..
8-)

Re: Melo?

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 10:43 pm
by RIPskaterdude
It would have to be something like Thompson, Casspi, our 1st + fillers for a resigned Melo...and I'm not even sure that would do it.