ImageImageImageImageImage

Jamal Crawford

Moderators: KF10, codydaze

User avatar
Bac2Basics
RealGM
Posts: 13,588
And1: 3
Joined: Mar 03, 2001
Location: "Are you like a crazy person? I'm quite sure they will say so."
   

Jamal Crawford 

Post#1 » by Bac2Basics » Sat Aug 28, 2010 8:07 am

Not as big a name as other rumored to be on the block as it were which is why I think it's more reasonable of a target versus someone like Melo who's more "pie in the sky"

He's a scorer that can shoot from range which is something that I know most have said they'd like to pair with Tyreke.

Crawford's significantly older than the rest of Sacramento's core of young players, so I don't think the Kings should give up anyone they view as long term for him, but I think a package based around Cisco could make alot of sense if Atlanta would go for that

Cisco, a 2nd & a TPE, if it's enough to land him would save the Hawks something like $5 million this year and give Sacramento more long term flexibility whether or not Petrie decides to extend him.

Don't know how much Atlanta would be looking for in return though.

Is Jamal Crawford someone that makes sense for the Kings to target if he is indeed available for trade?
Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well-warmed, and well-fed.
~ Herman Melville
Kingsforlife
Banned User
Posts: 2,467
And1: 0
Joined: Jan 10, 2010
Contact:

Re: Jamal Crawford 

Post#2 » by Kingsforlife » Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:18 pm

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=27n7nxo

just a lil joke. i would pass on Jamal since his role would be small anyway and i dont see them getting Horford or Duncan in the offseason
ICMTM
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 16,347
And1: 176
Joined: Jun 20, 2004
Location: Sacramento, Ca
     

Re: Jamal Crawford 

Post#3 » by ICMTM » Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:06 pm

I think they (the Hawks) can do better than that. Crawford has proven ability and is expiring as well.
KANGZZZZZ!
User avatar
JSrose115
Junior
Posts: 492
And1: 10
Joined: May 03, 2009

Re: Jamal Crawford 

Post#4 » by JSrose115 » Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:30 pm

Me personally I wouldn't mind having crawford on this team. We are in a dire need for a shooting guard, more so a starting SG and he would be an offensive upgrade to cisco. Bad thing about Crawford, following him throughout his career, he is a chucker. Maybe he can become acclimated into our system like he did in ATL. who knows.
User avatar
KingInExile
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 14,416
And1: 4
Joined: May 25, 2004
Location: RIP Wayman Tisdale...You left us way too early.

Re: Jamal Crawford 

Post#5 » by KingInExile » Sat Aug 28, 2010 4:39 pm

Pass. Crawford just doesn't excite me much and I would rather just stick with the young core we already have.
This space needs to be filled with a new sig...but I'm too lazy to make one.
Silver Man
Starter
Posts: 2,129
And1: 644
Joined: Jun 03, 2007
 

Re: Jamal Crawford 

Post#6 » by Silver Man » Sat Aug 28, 2010 7:39 pm

Not to big on Crawford but depending on what we would have to give up for him then I wouldn't mind taking him. If it's like you suggested "Cisco, a 2nd & a TPE" then I wouldn't mind taking Crawford but wouldn't go anywhere near trading one of our bigs to get Crawford. Either way it doesn't matter to me?
wiltchamberlain
Pro Prospect
Posts: 793
And1: 0
Joined: Jul 09, 2006

Re: Jamal Crawford 

Post#7 » by wiltchamberlain » Sat Aug 28, 2010 8:18 pm

I'd pass. He's too close to a chucker in my opinion.
User avatar
cl24
Freshman
Posts: 96
And1: 140
Joined: Aug 26, 2010

Re: Jamal Crawford 

Post#8 » by cl24 » Sat Aug 28, 2010 8:59 pm

I'm meh on this, I don't like his age and I don't like his excess chucking. I'd be OKAY with it, but nothing I'd cum over.
Keep Our Kings!
User avatar
Wolfay
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 7,656
And1: 649
Joined: Aug 13, 2005
Location: Sacramento, CA
       

Re: Jamal Crawford 

Post#9 » by Wolfay » Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:22 pm

I think he carries some bad juju.
Image
Silver Man
Starter
Posts: 2,129
And1: 644
Joined: Jun 03, 2007
 

Re: Jamal Crawford 

Post#10 » by Silver Man » Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:36 pm

cl24 wrote:I'm meh on this, I don't like his age and I don't like his excess chucking. I'd be OKAY with it, but nothing I'd cum over.


I'm pretty sure he's an expiring so his age won't be a huge factor considering he's only 30 will be 31 by the end of the year.
KF10
Forum Mod - Kings
Forum Mod - Kings
Posts: 25,434
And1: 5,537
Joined: Jul 28, 2006
 

Re: Jamal Crawford 

Post#11 » by KF10 » Sat Aug 28, 2010 10:07 pm

I'm still not convinced that he can continue his relatively good, efficient season last year next season and onwards. From history, Crawford is an inefficient player that happen to be a streaky shooter until last year. Why all of the sudden he can be a good player with good efficiency? I think it is fair to be skeptical here, I call it a fluke. Reminds me of the Mike James situation in Toronto years ago.

I don't want to take the risk in Crawford. He may pan out here but I don't know.
wiltchamberlain
Pro Prospect
Posts: 793
And1: 0
Joined: Jul 09, 2006

Re: Jamal Crawford 

Post#12 » by wiltchamberlain » Sun Aug 29, 2010 4:42 am

KF10 wrote:I'm still not convinced that he can continue his relatively good, efficient season last year next season and onwards. From history, Crawford is an inefficient player that happen to be a streaky shooter until last year. Why all of the sudden he can be a good player with good efficiency? I think it is fair to be skeptical here, I call it a fluke. Reminds me of the Mike James situation in Toronto years ago.

I don't want to take the risk in Crawford. He may pan out here but I don't know.


Well said. People often focus on the statistical anomaly of a typically good player having a particular bad season, their point being "Sure so and so had a bad season but it was because of X,Y, and Z." Well the fact is this is a two way street, If a player can have one bad year in a sea of good ones then surely the opposite can hold true as well.
stock01234
Junior
Posts: 413
And1: 8
Joined: Jan 21, 2010

Re: Jamal Crawford 

Post#13 » by stock01234 » Sun Aug 29, 2010 6:10 am

I just posted this trade
viewtopic.php?f=29&t=1049624&p=24838810#p24838810

How does it sound to everyone..
wiltchamberlain
Pro Prospect
Posts: 793
And1: 0
Joined: Jul 09, 2006

Re: Jamal Crawford 

Post#14 » by wiltchamberlain » Sun Aug 29, 2010 6:31 am

stock01234 wrote:I just posted this trade
viewtopic.php?f=29&t=1049624&p=24838810#p24838810

How does it sound to everyone..

You have the Kings giving up a first for that? As well as taking Bibby because he's a happy memory of our glory days? I'm sorry but this is a poor effort.
OGSactownballer
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,687
And1: 1,363
Joined: Oct 02, 2005

Re: Jamal Crawford 

Post#15 » by OGSactownballer » Mon Aug 30, 2010 1:17 am

There is a reason that Crawford succeeded as a sixth man/volume scorer on a good team but could never hold down a starting SG spot on crappy teams.
Silver Man
Starter
Posts: 2,129
And1: 644
Joined: Jun 03, 2007
 

Re: Jamal Crawford 

Post#16 » by Silver Man » Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:58 am

stock01234 wrote:I just posted this trade
viewtopic.php?f=29&t=1049624&p=24838810#p24838810

How does it sound to everyone..


Yeah um.. no. Like I said in the other thread Kings easily pass. This deal is absolutely TERRIBLE for the Kings. An expiring who is worth more than what your offering by itself but to add in a lottery pick as well just seems stupid. Dally probably will get traded but not until near the trading deadline.
Cassius
RealGM
Posts: 16,111
And1: 4,379
Joined: Aug 19, 2005
Location: We won.
     

Re: Jamal Crawford 

Post#17 » by Cassius » Sun Sep 5, 2010 9:18 pm

Not to derail the thread, but what are your thoughts on Ben Gordon as the solution at SG for you guys? If Tyreke is going to keep playing the point, it only makes sense to get a combo-guard (like Crawford), but better. I don't get to see a lot of Sacto ball on the east coast, but I liked what I saw and really like Cousins' game.

I'm not sure what it would take, maybe Dalembert, Greene, a 2nd and a pick swap or something... but I think a lineup of Reke, BG, Casspi, Landry, Cousins is pretty dope.

I wouldn't want to make that deal until December/January though, until Cousins learns the ropes and doesn't get frustrated with the rookie foul treatment.
I_Like_Dirt wrote:The whole comparison to Kevin McHale is ridiculously close, imo... And that's without more hilarious aspects of the comparison, e.g. if Wally Sczerbiak were 7 feet tall with the slower reflexes that came with the additional height, he'd be Bargnani.
SacKingsPejaFan
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,627
And1: 114
Joined: May 27, 2010
Location: New York, NY

Re: Jamal Crawford 

Post#18 » by SacKingsPejaFan » Sun Sep 5, 2010 10:11 pm

Cassius wrote:Not to derail the thread, but what are your thoughts on Ben Gordon as the solution at SG for you guys? If Tyreke is going to keep playing the point, it only makes sense to get a combo-guard (like Crawford), but better. I don't get to see a lot of Sacto ball on the east coast, but I liked what I saw and really like Cousins' game.

I'm not sure what it would take, maybe Dalembert, Greene, a 2nd and a pick swap or something... but I think a lineup of Reke, BG, Casspi, Landry, Cousins is pretty dope.

I wouldn't want to make that deal until December/January though, until Cousins learns the ropes and doesn't get frustrated with the rookie foul treatment.


Ben Gordon would be more than welcome on the team if I'm in charge. He's a great 3pt and FT shooter with a big body, and he's clutch. Although I'd ideally like Mo Williams or a Mo Williams-clone next to Tyreke, Ben Gordon will more than do.

Dalembert, Greene, a 2nd AND a pick swap is way too steep though considering the horrendous year Ben Gordon had last year. He didn't earn a starting position, his three point percentage dropped 9% from the previous year, FG% dropped, and he just looked plain bad out there...How does a 20 ppg scorer go to a weaker team and have his production fall off the radar? Detroit isn't in a position to ask for a lot for him.
User avatar
KiNgSbOi
Junior
Posts: 369
And1: 0
Joined: Sep 04, 2010
Location: Phoenix

Re: Jamal Crawford 

Post#19 » by KiNgSbOi » Sun Sep 5, 2010 10:55 pm

There is absolutely no need for Jamal Crawford. This team does not need a chucker, what we need is a solid defender who can hit the open 3, he is better suited to either stay or go to a contender.
OGSactownballer
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,687
And1: 1,363
Joined: Oct 02, 2005

Re: Jamal Crawford 

Post#20 » by OGSactownballer » Mon Sep 6, 2010 12:05 am

Check me if I'm wrong, but we might have enough cap space to absorb Gordon for a TPE and a first round pick in 2012 (unprotected)?

Return to Sacramento Kings