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Does anyone have any idea as to why Casspi got his second consecutive DNP-CD? Does he suck thaaat much? Is he injured? Is it because there's not enough minutes to go around at the 3? Is it because Westphal is just being Westphal (i.e., no one, including Westphal, has any idea of what's going on or why)?

Minutes. Donte is starting again and Westphal wants to do a 8-9 man rotation.

The issue is that we arent strictly playing guys at pf or sf we are playing them at forward meaning that our large number of forwArds both small and power are sharing minutes. Landry and thompson have both played minutes at sf this season which squeezes the minutes further and then head has earned minutes at guard with his defensive play pushing garcia to sf in order to find minutes. So that leads to only beint able to play a certain number of guys per game.

What needs to happen is that ee need to consolidate some of our talent or we will let it devalue because they dont see any playing time.

Westphal just simply shortened the rotation. Somebody has to get yanked and he's going with Donte for now because he seems to accept his role of defender/role player.

I'm sure the short rotation has something to do with it but I think it's because of his defense. The Kings were being lit up and abused by opposing SFs to start the year and basically up 'til the point that Casspi got benched. Casspi really, REALLY needs to improve his defense if he wants to find time.

Defense, it seems, is also the reason that Udrih got benched too. The difference between Casspi & Udrih, though, is that when Udrih got replaced in the starting lineup by head there was no other PG on the active roster that was going to get minutes--whereas at SF the Kings have Garcia eating Casspi's time.

rpa wrote:I'm sure the short rotation has something to do with it but I think it's because of his defense. The Kings were being lit up and abused by opposing SFs to start the year and basically up 'til the point that Casspi got benched. Casspi really, REALLY needs to improve his defense if he wants to find time.

Defense, it seems, is also the reason that Udrih got benched too. The difference between Casspi & Udrih, though, is that when Udrih got replaced in the starting lineup by head there was no other PG on the active roster that was going to get minutes--whereas at SF the Kings have Garcia eating Casspi's time.

agreed.. however i don't like westfail's rotation and constantly starting/benching players, moving players at various positions.. it looks utter chaos out there.. i think the uncertainty around everyone's role/expectations is affecting their production.. it's his second season and by now he should have figured out what lineup works and is best for the team..

We need to trade one of these guys while we can get something for them.

stock01234 wrote:

rpa wrote:I'm sure the short rotation has something to do with it but I think it's because of his defense. The Kings were being lit up and abused by opposing SFs to start the year and basically up 'til the point that Casspi got benched. Casspi really, REALLY needs to improve his defense if he wants to find time.

Defense, it seems, is also the reason that Udrih got benched too. The difference between Casspi & Udrih, though, is that when Udrih got replaced in the starting lineup by head there was no other PG on the active roster that was going to get minutes--whereas at SF the Kings have Garcia eating Casspi's time.

agreed.. however i don't like westfail's rotation and constantly starting/benching players, moving players at various positions.. it looks utter chaos out there.. i think the uncertainty around everyone's role/expectations is affecting their production.. it's his second season and by now he should have figured out what lineup works and is best for the team..

Wesphal is the type of coach who would be really successful on a mostly vet team like Phoenix that was all veterans. His constantly screwing with the lineup is terrible for a young core like we have. Young guys lose their confidence quickly if not let to play through mistakes.

You saw that with Spencer last year and JT this year. Even Bill Simmons couldn't believe they couldn't find time for JT. This year Spencer is on pace for 2 blocks per 36 minutes and as many rebounds as Carl Landry, and Dalmebert is shooting 38%. JT last year had through his first 2 months avgd 16/9/1blk while Carl Landry right now avgs 14/6/0. And JT continues to get no run even when he was on pace yesterday for 30/15 yet played 7 minutes when Landry put up a 9/7 in starter minutes. Casspi should find some minutes too.

The Maloofs early success has ruined them as owners, since they do not listen to Geoff Petrie anymore. They remind of a child with the ETCH A SKETCH toy drawing a picture and then shaking it up when they get bored. They are so similar to Jerry Jones and Daniel Snyder. Let the basketball professionals make the decisions, you are the business men.

^^^^Agreed.

cdt3 wrote:

stock01234 wrote:

rpa wrote:I'm sure the short rotation has something to do with it but I think it's because of his defense. The Kings were being lit up and abused by opposing SFs to start the year and basically up 'til the point that Casspi got benched. Casspi really, REALLY needs to improve his defense if he wants to find time.

Defense, it seems, is also the reason that Udrih got benched too. The difference between Casspi & Udrih, though, is that when Udrih got replaced in the starting lineup by head there was no other PG on the active roster that was going to get minutes--whereas at SF the Kings have Garcia eating Casspi's time.

agreed.. however i don't like westfail's rotation and constantly starting/benching players, moving players at various positions.. it looks utter chaos out there.. i think the uncertainty around everyone's role/expectations is affecting their production.. it's his second season and by now he should have figured out what lineup works and is best for the team..

Wesphal is the type of coach who would be really successful on a mostly vet team like Phoenix that was all veterans. His constantly screwing with the lineup is terrible for a young core like we have. Young guys lose their confidence quickly if not let to play through mistakes.

You saw that with Spencer last year and JT this year. Even Bill Simmons couldn't believe they couldn't find time for JT. This year Spencer is on pace for 2 blocks per 36 minutes and as many rebounds as Carl Landry, and Dalmebert is shooting 38%. JT last year had through his first 2 months avgd 16/9/1blk while Carl Landry right now avgs 14/6/0. And JT continues to get no run even when he was on pace yesterday for 30/15 yet played 7 minutes when Landry put up a 9/7 in starter minutes. Casspi should find some minutes too.

The Maloofs early success has ruined them as owners, since they do not listen to Geoff Petrie anymore. They remind of a child with the ETCH A SKETCH toy drawing a picture and then shaking it up when they get bored. They are so similar to Jerry Jones and Daniel Snyder. Let the basketball professionals make the decisions, you are the business men.

totally agree..

Nice post cdt3. I can't stand coach's tactics either. JT, Donte, and Casspi have seen their numbers slip, and if they are being considered for trade fodder their value is slipping as well. Are we just going to release them? If not then play them, pump them up to look good and trade, man. I don't get it.

Took me a while but in the last month I had to admit I just don't like PW.

Stupid question, but can Casspi play the two, like, at all? From what I read, he's got decent lateral quickness and a decent defender. Plays hard. Competitive. However, no mention of his ability to play the two.

Not really.

I mean he can, but won't be good at all there.. he doesn't have great onball skills, and has quite a tunnel vision.

He plays hard, but his defence needs improovment, I mean he shows signs of good D but is not consistent.

boogie-reke wrote:Not really.

I mean he can, but won't be good at all there.. he doesn't have great onball skills, and has quite a tunnel vision.

He plays hard, but his defence needs improovment, I mean he shows signs of good D but is not consistent.

He doesn't need great on ball skills, but rather not be a complete black hole defensively at the two guard. Offensively, I think he'd be a nice asset, but on defense, I wonder if he'd be a complete liability.

He's struggling against practicly any solid 3 he met this season, and it's not like he isn't trying or anything, he does force them to tough shots most of the time, but still.

I can't see him keeping up with the 2's of the league, not a chance imo.