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Post#1 » by wiltchamberlain » Sat Jan 1, 2011 3:50 pm

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=m ... zzer123110

“When you rebuild, it’s a painful process,” Maloof said. “We’re very, very excited about the future. We’re going to stay the course. We’re not going to do anything that’s going to use up our [salary-]cap space. We’ve waited this long. We’re going to get another great draft pick this year.

“We’re going to have anywhere from $20 million to $30 million in cap space. We’re going to use it. We’re going to use it all.”


How pissed am I gonna be when they renege on this promise or, possibly worse, they follow through signing people like Jamal Crawford or Aaron Brooks to near max deals?
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Post#2 » by dozencousins » Sat Jan 1, 2011 4:48 pm

Yah I saw the article & its nice to here but there are no free agents next year I see worth signing the max deals for . I would however send some big $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ to J.GREEN to steal him away from the THUNDER though . Guys like A.BROOKS are not worth max deals not even close & I as well would be pissed if we use the money unwisely .
The best way we can get the best players & spending money will be via trade over free agency .
To bad D.HOWARD & CP3 were not free agents next year though we would have a hard time getting them they are 2 guys I would over pay for just to get them into KINGS uniforms . :wink:
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Post#3 » by boogie-reke » Sat Jan 1, 2011 5:14 pm

“When you rebuild, it’s a painful process,” Maloof said. “We’re very, very excited about the future. We’re going to stay the course. We’re not going to do anything that’s going to use up our [salary-]cap space. We’ve waited this long. We’re going to get another great draft pick this year.

“We’re going to have anywhere from $20 million to $30 million in cap space. We’re going to use it. We’re going to use it all.



Am I the only one confused here? maybe my reading comprehantion is flawed here(which is likely).

Anyways great job waiting for one of the weakest FA markets to use up all our cap-space lol :lol:
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Post#4 » by dozencousins » Sat Jan 1, 2011 5:33 pm

Not that I really want to wait yet another year but overall the free agent class next season is overall weak minus 2-3 players that have still got dserious game & would be a great fit .
The following year would be a huge crop of stud like players .
The only down fall is that I dont think the organization can afford to wait unless the product in SACTOWN changes immediatly & by leaps & bounds .
What I would suggest to the MALOOFS / PETRIE If you cant get a J.GREEN , J.RICHARDSON possibly a C.BUTLER If we only get 1 than unless we can trade for a stud player I would wait the followingh year & save the rest of our available cap for another main guy if we cant get any this year I would save the majority of our cap yet again & who knows our draft pick / picks might improve our team alot as it is ( next season i mean ) than based on that picks position we can go after free agents the next year who will fit even better & be a better quality of player .


WOW I am tired of waiting though ....

I just want THE MALOOFS & PETRIE to do things smartly we have waited this long
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Post#5 » by SVThawk » Sat Jan 1, 2011 6:40 pm

boogie-reke wrote:“When you rebuild, it’s a painful process,” Maloof said. “We’re very, very excited about the future. We’re going to stay the course. We’re not going to do anything that’s going to use up our [salary-]cap space. We’ve waited this long. We’re going to get another great draft pick this year.

“We’re going to have anywhere from $20 million to $30 million in cap space. We’re going to use it. We’re going to use it all.



Am I the only one confused here? maybe my reading comprehantion is flawed here(which is likely).

Anyways great job waiting for one of the weakest FA markets to use up all our cap-space lol :lol:


It's kind of hard to Interpret if you haven't seen/heard the GP interview he did on a local radio show here in Sac. They don't want to waste their cap space until the new CBA is in effect and they know what they'll be working with next season...
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Post#6 » by The Beam King » Sat Jan 1, 2011 8:13 pm

I think Aaron Brooks would be an excellent signing for us as a Free Agent, especially if we don't land Walker or Irving in the draft.
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Post#7 » by longfellow44 » Sat Jan 1, 2011 8:43 pm

Based on what he said i had a bit of a dream scenario play through my head. We have almost 30 million. We dont sign landry or dalembert we draft a big man with our pick. We sign brooks for 10 mil or so, we sign jeff green. We sign gasol to a big contract or horford.

We spend it all and end up in cap hell but we nkw have a ridiculous roster

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Post#8 » by davidse » Sat Jan 1, 2011 9:05 pm

pretty stupid statment.

they value that great cap position and will not make any moves to compromise it this season, but on the other hand - aparently their minds are made up to use it all next summer (or offseason - whenever that may be...) ? well, if that's the case, then they don't value it enough...

the comittment is admirable, and it's what you want from your owner - the willingness to spend as much as he can to improve the team.

but to make up your mind in advance that you're going to use all of your cap resources to currently improve the team just because you're frustrated - or for whatever other reason - can often be shooting yourself in the foot.

just look at this year's bucks - and the amazing position they were due to have next summer had they shown a little more patience rather than overpay salmons, gooden, and trade for maggette.
they could have had noting but jennings, bogut, a few cheap talented young players, decent pick - and TONS of cap space going into next season - but did not show the patience to capitalize.
and are they even a better team after spending all that money ?

or how about the pistons who committed team suicide going after gordon, vilnueva, and extending hamilton - only because they had all the cap space a few years ago, and wouldn't be patient enough to wait one more year and enter the 2010 historical free agency in fantastic position ?


i'm not even sure the bulls made the best of their cap position - although they're talented enough to become contenders regardless.

bottom line maloofs ?
take a page out of the okc book and not the teams that rush into using up their entire cap space just because they have it.

ultimatly - that's what sets apart rebuilding efforts that end with contenders, and rebuilding that limits your team to years of 1st rd exits.

if a great player or great bargain is not there - wait, use the cap space in trades for expirings with picks or young players, etc.
keep your eyes on the prize - and that prize is not winning a few more games next season.
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Post#9 » by YC42Balla » Sat Jan 1, 2011 10:46 pm

davidse wrote:pretty stupid statment.

they value that great cap position and will not make any moves to compromise it this season, but on the other hand - aparently their minds are made up to use it all next summer (or offseason - whenever that may be...) ? well, if that's the case, then they don't value it enough...

the comittment is admirable, and it's what you want from your owner - the willingness to spend as much as he can to improve the team.

but to make up your mind in advance that you're going to use all of your cap resources to currently improve the team just because you're frustrated - or for whatever other reason - can often be shooting yourself in the foot.

just look at this year's bucks - and the amazing position they were due to have next summer had they shown a little more patience rather than overpay salmons, gooden, and trade for maggette.
they could have had noting but jennings, bogut, a few cheap talented young players, decent pick - and TONS of cap space going into next season - but did not show the patience to capitalize.
and are they even a better team after spending all that money ?

or how about the pistons who committed team suicide going after gordon, vilnueva, and extending hamilton - only because they had all the cap space a few years ago, and wouldn't be patient enough to wait one more year and enter the 2010 historical free agency in fantastic position ?


i'm not even sure the bulls made the best of their cap position - although they're talented enough to become contenders regardless.

bottom line maloofs ?
take a page out of the okc book and not the teams that rush into using up their entire cap space just because they have it.

ultimatly - that's what sets apart rebuilding efforts that end with contenders, and rebuilding that limits your team to years of 1st rd exits.

if a great player or great bargain is not there - wait, use the cap space in trades for expirings with picks or young players, etc.
keep your eyes on the prize - and that prize is not winning a few more games next season.


I agree with you for the most part. It sucks loosing.. but you don't want to jeopardize cap space by going out and buying a player who is just "ok." And then next season (and every other season) we have an "ok" team that can make the playoffs but loose in the first round each year.

It would be better to wait for the best players in free-agency/via trade/draft. Although I think getting Aaron brook would be ideal this off-season. This franchise doesn't attract big time superstars.
So going after Dwight or LeBron would be pointless. (obviously you'll still give them an offer). Green and Brooks would be nice to have though. They're both young and can help this team out a lot.

If we can get good young players from the draft and free agency this off-season. I'll be more then happy. Depending on how our off-season goes... we could be a 10x better team and potentially a playoff team.
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Post#10 » by pillwenney » Sat Jan 1, 2011 10:59 pm

Yeah, there just aren't the FA options out there to warrant spending this kind of money.
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Post#11 » by RIPskaterdude » Sat Jan 1, 2011 11:31 pm

longfellow44 wrote:Based on what he said i had a bit of a dream scenario play through my head. We have almost 30 million. We dont sign landry or dalembert we draft a big man with our pick. We sign brooks for 10 mil or so, we sign jeff green. We sign gasol to a big contract or horford.

We spend it all and end up in cap hell but we nkw have a ridiculous roster

Brooks
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Green
Cousins
Gasol


Cousins and Marc Gasol would be terrible together, IMO.
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Post#12 » by wiltchamberlain » Sun Jan 2, 2011 12:35 am

boogie-reke wrote:“When you rebuild, it’s a painful process,” Maloof said. “We’re very, very excited about the future. We’re going to stay the course. We’re not going to do anything that’s going to use up our [salary-]cap space. We’ve waited this long. We’re going to get another great draft pick this year.

“We’re going to have anywhere from $20 million to $30 million in cap space. We’re going to use it. We’re going to use it all.



Am I the only one confused here? maybe my reading comprehantion is flawed here(which is likely).

Anyways great job waiting for one of the weakest FA markets to use up all our cap-space lol :lol:


I noticed the same thing when I read it, obviously it seems that the two bolded statements are contradictory. However I believe that the first bolded statement refers to this year, whereas the second refers to this upcoming offseason. I don't think it has anything to do with your reading comprehension, more likely it has to do with what horrible speakers the Maloof brothers are (anyone that's ever listened to an interview can attest to the fact that all of the Maloofs are less than average public speakers.)
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Post#13 » by SacKingZZZ » Sun Jan 2, 2011 1:42 am

Makes you wonder if Petrie will look Zach Randolphs way. He's got a serious history of signing guys that a typically Kings killers. Depending on what it would cost I wouldn't mind seeing that.

I don't think the Maloofs mean they are just going to go out there and haphazardly spend that cap space. They're just trying to let everyone know they aren't being "cheap" because they're well...cheap. They're doing the smart thing. I'm pretty sure if a no brainer is offered to the Kings they'll take that deal. Will be an interesting trade deadline.
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Post#14 » by SacKingZZZ » Sun Jan 2, 2011 1:44 am

longfellow44 wrote:Based on what he said i had a bit of a dream scenario play through my head. We have almost 30 million. We dont sign landry or dalembert we draft a big man with our pick. We sign brooks for 10 mil or so, we sign jeff green. We sign gasol to a big contract or horford.

We spend it all and end up in cap hell but we nkw have a ridiculous roster

Brooks
Evans
Green
Cousins
Gasol



Don't mind Green, but no thanks to spending 10 million on Aaron Brooks.

Horford already signed an extension.
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Post#15 » by SacKingZZZ » Sun Jan 2, 2011 1:56 am

mitchweber wrote:Yeah, there just aren't the FA options out there to warrant spending this kind of money.



There isn't a "star" but I still don't think this team needs a really huge name. Evans and Cousins will be those names. There are some GREAT fits however. Prince, Battier, David West most likely will be out there, Jamal Crawford, Jeff Green maybe, Tyson Chandler, maybe Nene, Troy Murphy, . There are also some nice under the radar types in Aaron Afflalo, Glen Davis, Josh McRoberts, Kris Humphries, Wilson Chandler, Spencer Hawes!, Greg Oden as a gamble.
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Post#16 » by wiltchamberlain » Sun Jan 2, 2011 2:10 am

SacKingZZZ wrote:There isn't a "star" but I still don't think this team needs a really huge name. Evans and Cousins will be those names. There are some GREAT fits however. Prince, Battier, David West most likely will be out there, Jamal Crawford, Jeff Green maybe, Tyson Chandler, maybe Nene, Troy Murphy, . There are also some nice under the radar types in Aaron Afflalo, Glen Davis, Josh McRoberts, Kris Humphries, Wilson Chandler, Spencer Hawes!, Greg Oden as a gamble.


We talked about this a bit in the other thread. I agree on the subject of Cousins and Tyreke (presuming they keep getting better) but I also think they're going to need at least one more really good (read near all star) to push them over the top. Once that guy's found surround Tyreke and Cousins with shooters, defenders, rebounders and any other cheap role players you can and I think you've got the makings of a good (maybe great) team. All this is much easier said then done though.

Of the guys you mention I like a lot of them, unfortunately I think Affalo, Nene, Green and West are all going to be more expensive then you'd want to spend on that caliber of guy.
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Post#17 » by pillwenney » Sun Jan 2, 2011 3:24 am

SacKingZZZ wrote:
mitchweber wrote:Yeah, there just aren't the FA options out there to warrant spending this kind of money.



There isn't a "star" but I still don't think this team needs a really huge name. Evans and Cousins will be those names. There are some GREAT fits however. Prince, Battier, David West most likely will be out there, Jamal Crawford, Jeff Green maybe, Tyson Chandler, maybe Nene, Troy Murphy, . There are also some nice under the radar types in Aaron Afflalo, Glen Davis, Josh McRoberts, Kris Humphries, Wilson Chandler, Spencer Hawes!, Greg Oden as a gamble.


We're talking about using all of it. The only way that will happen will be if we sign way more guys than we need or if we really overpay some guys.

And hell no to Zach Randolph. He's a good player, but makes absolutely no sense for this team at this point.
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Post#18 » by RIPskaterdude » Sun Jan 2, 2011 3:34 am

This sounds more like a over reaction at this point. After years of promising to make a move, now it sounds like the Maloofs know that something big is needed to draw in the fans...and they think that by saying pretty words like this would fill in the seats a little more. I'm not sure if I should be more worried that they are bluffing or telling the truth.
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Post#19 » by longfellow44 » Sun Jan 2, 2011 4:39 am

If they are serious The way I see it is that we have a good core to build around and we can go out and pay what it takes to get the rest of the players around them. If that means overpaying to get certain players to sacramento then so be it.

I view our core right now to be Tyreke. Cousins, Casspi, Thompson, Udrih. That is a starting lineup if we want it to be but I see it as 3 starters and 2 great guys off the bench. IF we add Brooks to that we are in great shape at PG with enough passing and 3pt shooting to vastly improve the offense. Getting a guy like Jeff Green could be very helpful as he could be a 3rd scorer. If get got Horford we have a shot at having a dominant frontline with extremely versatile bigs. And those are just main piece type guys we could easily sign some of the lesser players as great role players.

Even if we use up all of our capspace we could be in great shape.
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Post#20 » by davidse » Sun Jan 2, 2011 4:52 am

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davidse wrote:pretty stupid statment.

they value that great cap position and will not make any moves to compromise it this season, but on the other hand - aparently their minds are made up to use it all next summer (or offseason - whenever that may be...) ? well, if that's the case, then they don't value it enough...

the comittment is admirable, and it's what you want from your owner - the willingness to spend as much as he can to improve the team.

but to make up your mind in advance that you're going to use all of your cap resources to currently improve the team just because you're frustrated - or for whatever other reason - can often be shooting yourself in the foot.

just look at this year's bucks - and the amazing position they were due to have next summer had they shown a little more patience rather than overpay salmons, gooden, and trade for maggette.
they could have had noting but jennings, bogut, a few cheap talented young players, decent pick - and TONS of cap space going into next season - but did not show the patience to capitalize.
and are they even a better team after spending all that money ?

or how about the pistons who committed team suicide going after gordon, vilnueva, and extending hamilton - only because they had all the cap space a few years ago, and wouldn't be patient enough to wait one more year and enter the 2010 historical free agency in fantastic position ?


i'm not even sure the bulls made the best of their cap position - although they're talented enough to become contenders regardless.

bottom line maloofs ?
take a page out of the okc book and not the teams that rush into using up their entire cap space just because they have it.

ultimatly - that's what sets apart rebuilding efforts that end with contenders, and rebuilding that limits your team to years of 1st rd exits.

if a great player or great bargain is not there - wait, use the cap space in trades for expirings with picks or young players, etc.
keep your eyes on the prize - and that prize is not winning a few more games next season.


I agree with you for the most part. It sucks loosing.. but you don't want to jeopardize cap space by going out and buying a player who is just "ok." And then next season (and every other season) we have an "ok" team that can make the playoffs but loose in the first round each year.

It would be better to wait for the best players in free-agency/via trade/draft. Although I think getting Aaron brook would be ideal this off-season. This franchise doesn't attract big time superstars.
So going after Dwight or LeBron would be pointless. (obviously you'll still give them an offer). Green and Brooks would be nice to have though. They're both young and can help this team out a lot.

If we can get good young players from the draft and free agency this off-season. I'll be more then happy. Depending on how our off-season goes... we could be a 10x better team and potentially a playoff team.


well, if you identify brooks as ideal for your team (not sure, but that's really not the point) - then by all means - spend, and even overpay to an extent as you often have to with nba free agents (not too sure about pg's though - teams seem pretty stacked to me at that position which might help in negotiations ?...)

- i obviously wasn't campaigning against such a move, but for example - once you do that, and unless there's some great bargains there to be had - just take your time, perhaps use your remaining cap space to move udrich for a big expiring, facilitate 3 team trades that often get you "free" picks or young players, etc. your position is all but guarenteed to improve anyway if you stand pat, while if you don't - that's where you can really have major setbacks, so all i'm saying is that you should make sure whoever you go after is REALLY worth it - not that you should sit on the cap space untill chris paul becomes a free agent or whatever...

and btw - i think that particulary for this team, it's almost pointless to predict what free agents could interest them, because the draft could have a huge impact - could net you that great pg, could get you a better c. prospect than cousins, a better pf prospect than thompson, etc - which may immediatly translate to trades being used to fill the other gaps in the roster - rather than free agent signings...

so it could be fun to predict going on "as is", but if that draft pick is as good as it's shaping out to be - i think that probably makes any attempt at predicting the kings' free agency plans - very very difficult...

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