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Say we don't "luck out" in the "lottery". And end up with a 3rd or 4th pick, would you risk it and do it? If what they say about the kid is right it could greatly help our offense, an add to our young core. Him Reke and DMC, could be awesome once they all toned up their games. Would you risk it if we knew he'd come right over and play?

Rubio is overrated as hell! We need shooters anyway, and that's a major weakness in Rubio's game. So no, I would not trade our pick for Rubio.

Besides fit reasons alone, no. Pretty clear he wants to play on the east coast as well. I'd much rather have any of Brandon Knight, Kemba Walker, Jared Sullinger, Derrick Williams, or maybe even gamble on Perry Jones.

I hate to put ourselves in the same category as Minnesota, but we pretty much are. Some young talented pieces, but a terrible record and unattractive place to live. He won't come here whether we want him or not based on the most recent reports. I'll keep the pick and use it on someone who would just be thankful to be in the league. Or you know, trade it for NBA-proven talent.

SacKingZZZ wrote:Besides fit reasons alone, no. Pretty clear he wants to play on the east coast as well. I'd much rather have any of Brandon Knight, Kemba Walker, Jared Sullinger, Derrick Williams, or maybe even gamble on Perry Jones.

I would add Terrance Jones to this list as well. He's not a great shooter but dude is a beast.

Rubio has some clear appeal, but at this point it's near impossible that he lives up to the hype.

Unless Sacramento could get him at far below what one would expect to have to pay, I don't think it's a smart play.

I thought that the Rubio nonsense was finished already!

No..just...no.

Jimmer is the best shooter in college!

I probably would. Rubio's passing and Cousin's passing on the same team could be sweet!

ADoaN17 wrote:Jimmer is the best shooter in college!

But he wont be anything in the NBA.

Rather have Irving or Knight.

twoolfork1 wrote:

SacKingZZZ wrote:Besides fit reasons alone, no. Pretty clear he wants to play on the east coast as well. I'd much rather have any of Brandon Knight, Kemba Walker, Jared Sullinger, Derrick Williams, or maybe even gamble on Perry Jones.

I would add Terrance Jones to this list as well. He's not a great shooter but dude is a beast.

He said if we drop to 3rd or 4th. If Irving doesn't come out Terrence Jones should be the number 1 pick. If it was Terrence Jones for Rubio I'd say double hell no to that.

Dude has trouble scoring more than 5 points a game in Euro leagues...no thanks!

Don't Believe The Hype - Chuck D

As unpopular as this may seem right about now, but I think I would trade the pick -- on the basis of it being in the range of 4-6.

I've been watching this team real hard and I think our biggest problem is (besides shooting) is the lack of a floor general. This foolishness of "Oh Tyreke and Beno are interchangeable.....they can swap the ball handling" is crap and doesn't do us any justice. We need a consistent ball handler who the team knows what their options are going to be.

With Tyreke: When he has the ball (handling) you sometimes never know what his options are going to be. The only thing you're sure of is he'll over dribble to get in the lane while having guys just stand around waiting to be his bailout.

With Beno: When he has the ball he either wants to get in his sweet spot for the bunny hopper or pass it to Tyreke to.. (see second paragraph) and thats basically it.

Because those guys don't have clear options what they want to do with the ball they always go away from what works during games to over dribbling and trying to be the hero. When Cousins is killing the opposing teams through 3 quarters and as a result developed a lead; in the 4th that lead is taken away so instead of either Beno/Tyreke establishing Cousins on the block and actually pass the ball to him, they once again over dribble.

Rubio I feel won't fall into that crap. He's a true PG. His optioins will be to pound the ball into Cousins for Cousins to make a play or set up his teammates. Yes he's overrated and is hyped beyond messure, but I feel with the right coaching and plays he can really give this team a lift. And as someone mentioned, he adds to the young core we have. Imagine if he lives up to a fragment of his overblown hype.

Cousins/Whiteside/Casspi/Evans/Rubio ...you call this kind of lineup An All Potential Lineup I say we give it a shot

I was high on Rubio back before that draft year, but I am not as enthusiastic about him anymore. His development appears to have flatlined, and when you add to that the fact that he would be a TERRIBLE fit on this team (awful shooter/mediocre-at-best defense) it becomes a definite no from me.

I will take my chances with the draft pick.

Why enter the draft? You knew you were going to a bad team, and you knew you weren't going #1.

perezident wrote:As unpopular as this may seem right about now, but I think I would trade the pick -- on the basis of it being in the range of 4-6.

I've been watching this team real hard and I think our biggest problem is (besides shooting) is the lack of a floor general. This foolishness of "Oh Tyreke and Beno are interchangeable.....they can swap the ball handling" is crap and doesn't do us any justice. We need a consistent ball handler who the team knows what their options are going to be.

With Tyreke: When he has the ball (handling) you sometimes never know what his options are going to be. The only thing you're sure of is he'll over dribble to get in the lane while having guys just stand around waiting to be his bailout.

With Beno: When he has the ball he either wants to get in his sweet spot for the bunny hopper or pass it to Tyreke to.. (see second paragraph) and thats basically it.

Because those guys don't have clear options what they want to do with the ball they always go away from what works during games to over dribbling and trying to be the hero. When Cousins is killing the opposing teams through 3 quarters and as a result developed a lead; in the 4th that lead is taken away so instead of either Beno/Tyreke establishing Cousins on the block and actually pass the ball to him, they once again over dribble.

Rubio I feel won't fall into that crap. He's a true PG. His optioins will be to pound the ball into Cousins for Cousins to make a play or set up his teammates. Yes he's overrated and is hyped beyond messure, but I feel with the right coaching and plays he can really give this team a lift. And as someone mentioned, he adds to the young core we have. Imagine if he lives up to a fragment of his overblown hype.

Cousins/Whiteside/Casspi/Evans/Rubio ...you call this kind of lineup An All Potential Lineup I say we give it a shot

Ball handling/play making is not the issue, and even more so with a player like Cousins. The part that pisses me off about this team more than anything in relation to how it's run is that this is a team that should be in the upper half in assists at the very least with how many shot creators they have. Probably where not having enough spot shooters comes back to bite us.

You're right about Beno and Tyreke in the 4th, but that's a big part of our "system". I've brought it up before, the guard "probing", and for the first time the other night I even heard Westphal mention it in those exact words. I knew my eyes weren't deceiving me, THAT is the "system". Still, if Tyreke is 100%, and with the way Beno is playing, it's not that bad of a play call to be honest. Just need more diversity.

I like Rubio, If we could pick up a Perry Jones in the draft and trade our pick next year that would be better.

Of course I would scrap all that of we get Kyrie Irving. In that case Rubio could stay in Spain for all I care.

Rubio/Beno
Evans/Garcia
Jones/Casspi
JT/Whiteside
Cousins/Dally?

IDK.

no need to add a drama queen on this king's team!

Dustin5566 wrote:I like Rubio, If we could pick up a Perry Jones in the draft and trade our pick next year that would be better.

Of course I would scrap all that of we get Kyrie Irving. In that case Rubio could stay in Spain for all I care.

Rubio/Beno
Evans/Garcia
Jones/Casspi
JT/Whiteside
Cousins/Dally?

IDK.

Perry Jones would have to really show just about everything he hasn't to be a SF at any level. Dudes a PF, total clone of Anthony Randolph w/o the shotblocking prowess.