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How to fix the kings?

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:42 pm
by longfellow44
The kings have been terrible as a team and extremely inconsistent. We all are frustrated with the product on the floor. I figured this would be a good place for everyone to put their ideas down as to how they would fix the kings.

What I would do.
Move Tyreke to starting SF permanently.
Trade Hickson and or Jimmer for someone like Augustin
Play in the half court and forget this idea that we are some sort of running team
Make cousins practice dunking the ball all day long, no more layups.
Start Thompson and bring Whiteside up to play garbage time with the team. Give him a minimum of 5 min per game.
Amnesty Salmons

My lineup
Augustin/Thomas
Thornton/Garcia
Evans/Greene/Outlaw
Thompson/Whiteside
Cousins/Hayes

This lineup gives us a legit PG to run the offense, A potent scorer in Thorton , and Moves Evans to SF where his slashing style will be more at home within the offense. Our reserves are a bit weak after this but atleast we should get better production out of our starting unit.

Re: How to fix the kings?

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:48 pm
by Wolfay
Sell Kings to Ron Burkle.
Buy the 1st pick of the draft and a superstar or two.
Win.

Re: How to fix the kings?

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:20 pm
by deNIEd
I see two different options that will lead to success.

Option 1
Step 1) Sell the Kings to Ron Burkle
Step 2) Win

Option 2
Step 1) Wait until Tyreke, DeMarcus, Durant, Rose, Rubio, Griffin, Dwight, Lebron, Irving, Gordon, Westbrook, Wade, Rondo, Drummond, Davis, Jones, Barnes, Curry, Horford, Williams to all retire
Step 2) Hopefully draft a good player for once
Step 3) Win

Re: How to fix the kings?

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:07 pm
by kevin44
After last nights game I don't think this team can be fixed with it current owners, coaches, & players. This team has no heart. Petrie needs to go. What has he done for this franchise? I am still sick to my stomach with effort I saw last night. I can't believe people actually pay money to watch this mess.

Re: How to fix the kings?

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:10 pm
by ADoaN17
I think the Kings as a half court team would be worse. All they do is ISO. I think a trade needs to happen to make the players wake up.

Re: How to fix the kings?

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:39 pm
by RekeHavoc
Wolfay wrote:Sell Kings to Ron Burkle.
Buy the 1st pick of the draft and a superstar or two.
Win.


agreed

Re: How to fix the kings?

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:47 pm
by tru6playa
90 points in the paint? No team defense is that bad. It's called NO HEART. This team does not give a S***. I went to that game for free last night and I still felt ripped off. The only enjoyment I got out of it was being able to exit out of the parking lot like it was Walmart because it was empty due to people leaving early.

Why is Salmons getting PT? He should be getting less than 20 minutes a game.

Re: How to fix the kings?

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:58 pm
by SacKingZZZ
Here's what I would do:

First from a coaching standpoint. Send the post feeder baseline allowing Cousins to either pass or take his man one on one. Cutting post feeder (Thornton, Evans, or Jimmer) continues to the opposite corner 3. Guy stationed at corner 3 already sets screen for cutter, cutter moves out into top of key area as a 3rd option in the set and if that original cutter gets the ball up top they have the choice to shoot, pass to the corner 3, or find another cutter to the rim. This is a set that you can create multiple shot possibilities from and continue to reuse over and over since it involves multiple openings. That is one basic motion set I want to see instituted.

Personnel wise I'd make a move for a guy like Batum. Offer JT or Hickson, if they don't take it and run wait until summer. Then in the summer I'd look at Kirk Hinrich as well.

In the interim I'd take Smart into my office and come up with a gameplan of how to best use the star level talent that this team HAS!! Institute playsets that involve the passing of Cousins and teach Tyreke how to cut off without the ball. Would also put in playsets that involve Hayes as a passer in the high post, as well as Cousins. I would bring John Salmons off the bench and use him as a primary ball handler in the 2nd unit allowing him to be himself, kind of running him like the backup PG to see if that could get him going. I would start Garcia or Honeycutt now if Batum couldn't be had.

Re: How to fix the kings?

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:00 pm
by SacKingZZZ
Oh, and I forgot to add the most important part: WAIT. If you all think that Cousins and some of the other talent on this team isn't the real deal, well, thank goodness you aren't running the team. If these scapegoats get run out of town because of a lack of experience and instant success this will be the time it comes back and CRUSHES this franchise for years to come.

Re: How to fix the kings?

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:27 pm
by pillwenney
I'd like to start by trying to get a real PG. Just to see what happens.

Re: How to fix the kings?

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:34 am
by longfellow44
I think adding a real point guard to this team is the single best thing we can do. And at this point I think it's something that we have to do if we want to be competitive. We have lots of talent but right now It just isn't fitting together very well.

Personally I want to add a point guard and look to put Tyreke at SF. At SF I can see him playing a similar role to Igoudala as a part time creator for the offense and an elite wing defender. Also with tyrekes ability to get to the bucket he in my mind would be a great fit at SF.

Re: How to fix the kings?

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:42 am
by SacKingZZZ
longfellow44 wrote:I think adding a real point guard to this team is the single best thing we can do. And at this point I think it's something that we have to do if we want to be competitive. We have lots of talent but right now It just isn't fitting together very well.

Personally I want to add a point guard and look to put Tyreke at SF. At SF I can see him playing a similar role to Igoudala as a part time creator for the offense and an elite wing defender. Also with tyrekes ability to get to the bucket he in my mind would be a great fit at SF.


But then you have another issue, if you're looking to have more of a traditional PG, pick and roll type of offense Tyreke will hurt your team because you typically want a floor spread at SF, otherwise the spacing issues will be even worse for Cousins and everyone else.

Re: How to fix the kings?

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:51 am
by SacKingZZZ
"We have to slow it down because one, we're not shooting well and two, we've got to get a positive possession," Smart said. "Something where we're fouled on a very good shot or actually score the basketball. This team can run on opportunities but it may not be to the point where we can get out and do the things we need to do right now."

http://blogs.sacbee.com/sports/kings/archives/2012/01/the-morning-aft-19.html

Mark my words, Petrie is whispering, Smart is listening. Petrie built this team, we all know how he wants his team to play, we all know how it should play. We all know how it played at the end of last year after some of us on this board pointed it out time and time again. Get to work boys.

Re: How to fix the kings?

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:27 am
by diogo_pt
We can't create space to play, so...let's bring them to teach our players :D

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AiyUfxId90[/youtube]

Re: How to fix the kings?

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:37 am
by City of Trees
How to fix the Kings? pretty simple. Find better parts that form a team. Not a bunch of ISO players.

Evaluate who our core players are. IMO its Evans, Thornton, Cousins. Everyone else can be traded to get the "ball moving" on fixing this team.

Re: How to fix the kings?

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:58 am
by nolimit0820
I am a huge Evans fan. However, we need a leader. You have to give up to receive.

I propose a trade centered around Evans for Rajon Rondo.

I think the Celtics would do it. Kings should do it because you get a true floor leader. I think he would flourish with a younger team and more responsibility. He would make every guy better on the floor. My concern would be we would not be very big in the back court.

Rondo/Thomas
Thorton/Jimmer
Greene/Outlaw for a billion more years
Thompson/Hayes
Cousins

There are still holes in that line up but Rondo makes us immediately better and he is a WINNER! we need winners

Re: How to fix the kings?

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:17 am
by SacKingZZZ
I don't know about Rondo. I'd like to see him w/o the players he has with him in Boston. That is another team chalk full of vets and willing players with experience buying in to their game plan. Still, as they have faltered and aged that team has begun to sink with them. Rondo is a nice player but I'd wouldn't do it right at the moment.

Re: How to fix the kings?

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:19 am
by City of Trees
Looking at the Kings current needs Rondo fits the bill. IMO Celtics would ask for more than just Evans, as in trading Rondo starts the rebuild. Not to mention Howard considering to sign with Boston adds to the mix.

Re: How to fix the kings?

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 6:15 am
by dozencousins
Its a bit far fetched but since I do not think Evans will ever become an elite star or even nothing more than just a really good player not to mention I firmly believe his game does not mesh well with a number of our key players . I would take a huge gamble and be willing to go after hard for D12 offering Evans , either Hickson or J.T. with either of Salmons or Garcia were not only do the Magic gain a young bigman but get another young potential star in Evans while they need to take some salary in Garcia or Salmons to make a deal work so not only does the Magic get those guys they then gain alot more cap space saving them roughly 4-6 million .

If that happened we would have DMC , D12 + Hayes once healthy along with either J.T OR J.J. as our bigs really solid if you ask me ?

Worst case D12 doesnt want to resign with us though I think if you get D12 and put him with DMC I think we would win alot more thus D12 seeing the KINGS as far more attractive & he would possibly resign . Having the same type of impact for us and hype as CP3 has had for the Clippers . If D12 didnt sign Yes we lose Evans and another young big in J.T or J.J. but again I do not see Tyreke as being right to mesh with DMC and some of our others but were we gain is dumping either Salmons or Garcia's contracts that are not that good giving a ton more to us in salary cap space going into next season wich will be by far be the best free agency class since Lebron & Bosh were free agents .

Re: How to fix the kings?

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 6:55 am
by KF10
We will regret big time if we trade Evans.

He is showing more of his passing, playmaking in the last several games i.e. playing in the team concept. To me, there is hope that he can be really good in this regard when we are able to install a legit system and have better players around Evans (& Cousins). It isn't his fault when his team is shooting horrid (contested or open shots) from everywhere.

Right now, the Kings have the 5th most difficult schedule in the NBA and played the most road games out of everyone. To think, we won 6 games given everything in mind is pretty impressive in its own imo. I said this earlier, I'll wait on judgement after we see this team in full capacity (Thornton & Hayes) and start to play more home games.