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ESPN Insider: #5 + Tyreke for Noah + 29
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:55 am
by dukeknicksirish
Noah/Hayes
Cousins
Williams/Outlaw
Thorton
Isaiah/Jimmer
Looks solid down-low and a promising upbringing at the guard positions. Use cap for a SF and you have a good lookin team.
Thoughts?
Re: ESPN Insider: #5 + Tyreke for Noah + 29
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:59 am
by pillwenney
Wait, what about this on insider? Like, are they talking about this like it could happen? Or is this just some idea some person had?
Re: ESPN Insider: #5 + Tyreke for Noah + 29
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:07 am
by bibby1023
What the?! I'm wondering the same thing. Is this a rumor/source type thing...if it's actually be discussed I wouldn't be to happy if we did it.
Re: ESPN Insider: #5 + Tyreke for Noah + 29
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:13 am
by City of Trees
Yea can you add some information here or is this just something you created in your head?
Re: ESPN Insider: #5 + Tyreke for Noah + 29
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:14 am
by sackings916
This cant be the whole deal can it? I love Noah and think he would be a perfect fit for this team and as a frontcourt partner to Cousins, but Im not giving up Tyreke, the #5 and our cap space just for him. Some type of combination of Hayes,Salmons,Garcia or Outlaw has to be going the other way.
Re: ESPN Insider: #5 + Tyreke for Noah + 29
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:45 am
by KF10
So we drop 24 spots to switch from Tyreke to Noah? I pass.
Re: ESPN Insider: #5 + Tyreke for Noah + 29
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:58 am
by Inigo_Montoya
Every once in awhile I consider signing up for Insider but then they troll with material like this and I'm reminded to keep my money. I like Noah a lot but that is too much.
Re: ESPN Insider: #5 + Tyreke for Noah + 29
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:23 am
by Wolfay
They have the same thread on the Chicago board and apparently it's just a (bad) idea.
Re: ESPN Insider: #5 + Tyreke for Noah + 29
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:27 am
by pillwenney
The value is obviously out of whack, but I'd love it as the principle of a deal. We just have to find a way to not lose so much value. Find a way to get like at a 12-18ish pick instead of 29, and throw at least Outlaw in there, and I'm on board.
Re: ESPN Insider: #5 + Tyreke for Noah + 29
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:39 am
by bibby1023
getting taj gibson in return will be nice, not sure what his contract looks like
Re: ESPN Insider: #5 + Tyreke for Noah + 29
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:22 am
by RIPskaterdude
pillwenney wrote:The value is obviously out of whack, but I'd love it as the principle of a deal. We just have to find a way to not lose so much value. Find a way to get like at a 12-18ish pick instead of 29, and throw at least Outlaw in there, and I'm on board.
If it was something like Noah + 11-14 pick for Evans + 5th + Salmons, I could MAYBE go for it, but...I would rather see what we get at #5 instead. I think Noah is pretty overrated due to the good defensive system in Chicago. No way he's the same player here in Sacramento, imo.
Re: ESPN Insider: #5 + Tyreke for Noah + 29
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:27 am
by pillwenney
Chicago had a great defense for a while before Thibodeau. He just bumped it from great to truly elite. Noah is a huge difference maker there, and perhaps more importantly, I think he could be a culture-changer for the franchise.
And really, there's no point in including Salmons in any trade. We have the amnesty provision and he is clearly the one to use it on.
Re: ESPN Insider: #5 + Tyreke for Noah + 29
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:29 am
by City of Trees
pillwenney wrote:Chicago had a great defense for a while before Thibodeau. He just bumped it from great to truly elite. Noah is a huge difference maker there, and perhaps more importantly, I think he could be a culture-changer for the franchise.
And really, there's no point in including Salmons in any trade. We have the amnesty provision and he is clearly the one to use it on.
No way Maloofs will pay him to walk...but thats beating a dead horse
Re: ESPN Insider: #5 + Tyreke for Noah + 29
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:39 am
by pillwenney
Why not? Would they rather pay him to sit on the bench? I don't see how that makes any sense.
This is all probably moot, because there's not really any logical reason for the Bulls to do it.
Re: ESPN Insider: #5 + Tyreke for Noah + 29
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:52 am
by City of Trees
pillwenney wrote:Why not? Would they rather pay him to sit on the bench? I don't see how that makes any sense.
This is all probably moot, because there's not really any logical reason for the Bulls to do it.
i agree with your point about Salmons riding the bench. Amnesty is by far the way to go..
However you must put yourself in the shoes of a "former playboy lifestyle owner gone broke", who has stopped spending money (evident in leagues lowest payroll) in Sacramento as of late. Dont see them letting the teams highest paid player walk and in return forcing them to replace the contract just to meet league minimum again.
Re: ESPN Insider: #5 + Tyreke for Noah + 29
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:58 am
by pillwenney
I don't buy the idea that the Maloofs won't spend money on anything nearly as much as others. I just think nobody wants to come here unless we give them a contract we're going to regret.
Re: ESPN Insider: #5 + Tyreke for Noah + 29
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:59 am
by RIPskaterdude
Unless they trade the #5 pick for pure salary, a la Deng.
Re: ESPN Insider: #5 + Tyreke for Noah + 29
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:03 am
by SacKingZZZ
Hahaha, wouldn't get my hopes up Bulls fans. Would be an awesome fit and this team would have two of the best fundamental post defenders in Noah and Hayes, but this is ridiculous.
Re: ESPN Insider: #5 + Tyreke for Noah + 29
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:29 pm
by SadKingsFan
pillwenney wrote:The value is obviously out of whack, but I'd love it as the principle of a deal. We just have to find a way to not lose so much value. Find a way to get like at a 12-18ish pick instead of 29, and throw at least Outlaw in there, and I'm on board.
Re: ESPN Insider: #5 + Tyreke for Noah + 29
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:29 pm
by SadKingsFan
SacKingZZZ wrote:Hahaha, wouldn't get my hopes up Bulls fans. Would be an awesome fit and this team would have two of the best fundamental post defenders in Noah and Hayes, but this is ridiculous.
I want Hayes GONE