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Do you think there's any chance that Vlade might consider firing George Karl and bringing back Rick Adelman.... We had our most successful years under Adelman, and Vlade played for him.

CaptainMorgan78 wrote:Do you think there's any chance that Vlade might consider firing George Karl and bringing back Rick Adelman.... We had our most successful years under Adelman, and Vlade played for him.

First, I am confused because you say, "We" and "our" while at the same time you tag up with a Golden State Warriors logo...!

Second, I do not know how I would feel about that. We have a lot of young talent and it seems that over the recent years, Adelman has shown to not cater to young talent that much.

I will never forget the glory days under him, but I am not sure how it would work today.

Yeah, Rick was brutal to young guys and I hate to say it but, Karl ain't much better. I have no doubts Adelman could work wonders for this team. He's one of those guys that always plays to his teams best talent and never forces a system on them if it doesn't fit.

If Karl somehow, some way can't work, Adelman is the ONLY guy out there that would take some tarnish away. I still hope Karl and Cuz can work it out and they can build off of some of the positives of last season. I want to see Karl with a full unit for once. Collison, Gay, and Cousins made up the foundation of one of the best starting units in the league last year for craps sake. What's the dang issue here! You added a great PF fit wise and now you just add that 3 and D guy with experience at SG, this is too easy guys.

SacKingZZZ wrote:Yeah, Rick was brutal to young guys and I hate to say it but, Karl ain't much better. I have no doubts Adelman could work wonders for this team. He's one of those guys that always plays to his teams best talent and never forces a system on them if it doesn't fit.

If Karl somehow, some way can't work, Adelman is the ONLY guy out there that would take some tarnish away. I still hope Karl and Cuz can work it out and they can build off of some of the positives of last season. I want to see Karl with a full unit for once. Collison, Gay, and Cousins made up the foundation of one of the best starting units in the league last year for craps sake. What's the dang issue here! You added a great PF fit wise and now you just add that 3 and D guy with experience at SG, this is too easy guys.

Adelman is going to be 70 next year and has said that he is done coaching and wants to care for his wife of failing health. Sorry, Naysayer, Karl is the man!

benchmobbin02 wrote:

SacKingZZZ wrote:Yeah, Rick was brutal to young guys and I hate to say it but, Karl ain't much better. I have no doubts Adelman could work wonders for this team. He's one of those guys that always plays to his teams best talent and never forces a system on them if it doesn't fit.

If Karl somehow, some way can't work, Adelman is the ONLY guy out there that would take some tarnish away. I still hope Karl and Cuz can work it out and they can build off of some of the positives of last season. I want to see Karl with a full unit for once. Collison, Gay, and Cousins made up the foundation of one of the best starting units in the league last year for craps sake. What's the dang issue here! You added a great PF fit wise and now you just add that 3 and D guy with experience at SG, this is too easy guys.

Adelman is going to be 70 next year and has said that he is done coaching and wants to care for his wife of failing health. Sorry, Naysayer, Karl is the man!

Karl will be gone quickly if he is not going to relate to Cousins or crossed bounds with him

Kings2013 wrote:

benchmobbin02 wrote:

SacKingZZZ wrote:Yeah, Rick was brutal to young guys and I hate to say it but, Karl ain't much better. I have no doubts Adelman could work wonders for this team. He's one of those guys that always plays to his teams best talent and never forces a system on them if it doesn't fit.

If Karl somehow, some way can't work, Adelman is the ONLY guy out there that would take some tarnish away. I still hope Karl and Cuz can work it out and they can build off of some of the positives of last season. I want to see Karl with a full unit for once. Collison, Gay, and Cousins made up the foundation of one of the best starting units in the league last year for craps sake. What's the dang issue here! You added a great PF fit wise and now you just add that 3 and D guy with experience at SG, this is too easy guys.

Adelman is going to be 70 next year and has said that he is done coaching and wants to care for his wife of failing health. Sorry, Naysayer, Karl is the man!

Karl will be gone quickly if he is not going to relate to Cousins or crossed bounds with him

Karl is only half of the problem and won't be gone quickly as Vlade has said that he likes and trust his coach and they will both build to make it work out. Karl knows that Vlade is in charge and isn't gonna put up with the non sense FROM ANYONE anymore. He also know that if he gets the axe here, he is most likley be done in the NBA and he wants to another shot at a title. They will be fine unless Cousins can't put it behind him.

Honestly I'd rather hire Marc Jackson over Adelman. That time has passed guys. Let him live in Kings history as the greatest coach.

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City of Trees wrote:Honestly I'd rather hire Marc Jackson over Adelman. That time has passed guys. Let him live in Kings history as the greatest coach.

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Honestly I don't see Mark Jackson getting another head coaching gig, at least not in the NBA, the way he clashed with Warriors management and some of the things that have resurfaced about him lately (what he said about Festus Ezeli), I wouldn't want him in Sac. If I were Vlade I would put in a call to John Calipari and see if there would be any interest in him coaching two of his former players.

Adelman is done, too old, in another chapter of life.

If Karl is out, I hope Thibs at least is interested in an interview.

CaptainMorgan78 wrote:

City of Trees wrote:Honestly I'd rather hire Marc Jackson over Adelman. That time has passed guys. Let him live in Kings history as the greatest coach.

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Honestly I don't see Mark Jackson getting another head coaching gig, at least not in the NBA, the way he clashed with Warriors management and some of the things that have resurfaced about him lately (what he said about Festus Ezeli), I wouldn't want him in Sac. If I were Vlade I would put in a call to John Calipari and see if there would be any interest in him coaching two of his former players.

I didn't endorse Jackson to replace Karl... I used Jackson to express how much I don't want Adelman back.

Jackson will get another gig... Seems to me he shares shade under the tree with Malone. Both can be stubborn with management, both have that no crap mentality, both preach Defense.

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We would need a guy like Scott Brooks . But I would love to see John Calapari myself .

Oh & yes Marc Jackson would be great as well so i do agree with others on him .

benchmobbin02 wrote:

SacKingZZZ wrote:Yeah, Rick was brutal to young guys and I hate to say it but, Karl ain't much better. I have no doubts Adelman could work wonders for this team. He's one of those guys that always plays to his teams best talent and never forces a system on them if it doesn't fit.

If Karl somehow, some way can't work, Adelman is the ONLY guy out there that would take some tarnish away. I still hope Karl and Cuz can work it out and they can build off of some of the positives of last season. I want to see Karl with a full unit for once. Collison, Gay, and Cousins made up the foundation of one of the best starting units in the league last year for craps sake. What's the dang issue here! You added a great PF fit wise and now you just add that 3 and D guy with experience at SG, this is too easy guys.

Adelman is going to be 70 next year and has said that he is done coaching and wants to care for his wife of failing health. Sorry, Naysayer, Karl is the man!

I believe he said the same thing before he went to the Twolves as well. Those who post without basis or lack content back their arguments with lines like that, congrats for once again completely misinterpreting a post on this board. Read the bolded again, write it down on the palm of your hand if you have to. True words of a naysayer alright!!

dozencousins wrote:Oh & yes Marc Jackson would be great as well so i do agree with others on him .

IIRC according to reports didn't Cousins already say he didn't want Jackson when they brought him in to talk pre-Karl.

SacKingZZZ wrote:

benchmobbin02 wrote:

SacKingZZZ wrote:Yeah, Rick was brutal to young guys and I hate to say it but, Karl ain't much better. I have no doubts Adelman could work wonders for this team. He's one of those guys that always plays to his teams best talent and never forces a system on them if it doesn't fit.

If Karl somehow, some way can't work, Adelman is the ONLY guy out there that would take some tarnish away. I still hope Karl and Cuz can work it out and they can build off of some of the positives of last season. I want to see Karl with a full unit for once. Collison, Gay, and Cousins made up the foundation of one of the best starting units in the league last year for craps sake. What's the dang issue here! You added a great PF fit wise and now you just add that 3 and D guy with experience at SG, this is too easy guys.

Adelman is going to be 70 next year and has said that he is done coaching and wants to care for his wife of failing health. Sorry, Naysayer, Karl is the man!

I believe he said the same thing before he went to the Twolves as well. Those who post without basis or lack content back their arguments with lines like that, congrats for once again completely misinterpreting a post on this board. Read the bolded again, write it down on the palm of your hand if you have to. True words of a naysayer alright!!

Well, you're wrong.

The team announced that the Rockets and Adelman "have mutually agreed to part ways." Adelman's contract expires on June 30.

General manager Daryl Morey said in a statement Monday night that the decision came after "numerous discussions and careful consideration."

Now, Adelman will take time to ponder his next move. He said in the last week of the Rockets' season that he still has a passion for the job.

"I don't think I've lost the desire to coach; I think I still can do it," Adelman said. "This team has been a lot of fun. It's been tough during the season. I tell people that, when you go through it, it's not so easy. But when you work with a group of guys who just won't quit, and play above and beyond what people expect them to do, that's a lot of fun when you look back on it."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=6384752

Im just tired of the posters that take back handed shots at Vlade and Karl but then try to negate the backlash they might get by throwing their vote of confidence behind them just in case they succeed. I'm calling people out when I see it! Vlade is the Head of the team. Period. Karl is the coach. Fall in or fall out! I will back them and stand up and take the flake if they fail.

benchmobbin02 wrote:

SacKingZZZ wrote:

benchmobbin02 wrote:
Adelman is going to be 70 next year and has said that he is done coaching and wants to care for his wife of failing health. Sorry, Naysayer, Karl is the man!

I believe he said the same thing before he went to the Twolves as well. Those who post without basis or lack content back their arguments with lines like that, congrats for once again completely misinterpreting a post on this board. Read the bolded again, write it down on the palm of your hand if you have to. True words of a naysayer alright!!

Well, you're wrong.

The team announced that the Rockets and Adelman "have mutually agreed to part ways." Adelman's contract expires on June 30.

General manager Daryl Morey said in a statement Monday night that the decision came after "numerous discussions and careful consideration."

Now, Adelman will take time to ponder his next move. He said in the last week of the Rockets' season that he still has a passion for the job.

"I don't think I've lost the desire to coach; I think I still can do it," Adelman said. "This team has been a lot of fun. It's been tough during the season. I tell people that, when you go through it, it's not so easy. But when you work with a group of guys who just won't quit, and play above and beyond what people expect them to do, that's a lot of fun when you look back on it."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=6384752

Im just tired of the posters that take back handed shots at Vlade and Karl but then try to negate the backlash they might get by throwing their vote of confidence behind them just in case they succeed. I'm calling people out when I see it! Vlade is the Head of the team. Period. Karl is the coach. Fall in or fall out! I will back them and stand up and take the flake if they fail.

I'm just taking a shot in the dark here but didn't Adelman finish his coaching career in Minnesota?? Yep

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10815975/rick-adelman-minnesota-timberwolves-retiring

"I think it's time for me to step aside," Adelman said. "When I came here, we really tried to see if we could turn some things around and we made some strides. Not as much as we would have liked, but I think it's time for me to step aside and let someone else come in with this group. We're not that far away.

"I really enjoyed my time here. I thank [owner] Glen [Taylor] so much. He's the best owner I've ever been around. Not only as an owner, but as a person and everything. It's been an enjoyable experience, but I'm ready and my wife's ready to move on to another phase. We're looking forward to that."


"On behalf of the Minnesota Timberwolves, I would like to thank Rick for all he has done for our organization," said Taylor. "Under Rick's leadership, our team has improved each of the past three seasons. It has been a pleasure getting to know Rick and his wife Mary Kay, and I wish them the best in retirement."

Even as Adelman prepares to ride off into the sunset to spend more time with his beloved wife Mary Kay and eight grandchildren, his influence will remain in the league he called home for 25 years.


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No Rick is done coaching. Boogie only has 3 years left on his deal and we cannot afford to keep switching coaches. we have a top 5 all time coach(in terms of wins) Stick with it or boogie will be out on the first chance he gets when he becomes a free agent.

City of Trees wrote:

benchmobbin02 wrote:

SacKingZZZ wrote:

I believe he said the same thing before he went to the Twolves as well. Those who post without basis or lack content back their arguments with lines like that, congrats for once again completely misinterpreting a post on this board. Read the bolded again, write it down on the palm of your hand if you have to. True words of a naysayer alright!!

Well, you're wrong.

The team announced that the Rockets and Adelman "have mutually agreed to part ways." Adelman's contract expires on June 30.

General manager Daryl Morey said in a statement Monday night that the decision came after "numerous discussions and careful consideration."

Now, Adelman will take time to ponder his next move. He said in the last week of the Rockets' season that he still has a passion for the job.

"I don't think I've lost the desire to coach; I think I still can do it," Adelman said. "This team has been a lot of fun. It's been tough during the season. I tell people that, when you go through it, it's not so easy. But when you work with a group of guys who just won't quit, and play above and beyond what people expect them to do, that's a lot of fun when you look back on it."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=6384752

Im just tired of the posters that take back handed shots at Vlade and Karl but then try to negate the backlash they might get by throwing their vote of confidence behind them just in case they succeed. I'm calling people out when I see it! Vlade is the Head of the team. Period. Karl is the coach. Fall in or fall out! I will back them and stand up and take the flake if they fail.

I'm just taking a shot in the dark here but didn't Adelman finish his coaching career in Minnesota?? Yep

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10815975/rick-adelman-minnesota-timberwolves-retiring

"I think it's time for me to step aside," Adelman said. "When I came here, we really tried to see if we could turn some things around and we made some strides. Not as much as we would have liked, but I think it's time for me to step aside and let someone else come in with this group. We're not that far away.

"I really enjoyed my time here. I thank [owner] Glen [Taylor] so much. He's the best owner I've ever been around. Not only as an owner, but as a person and everything. It's been an enjoyable experience, but I'm ready and my wife's ready to move on to another phase. We're looking forward to that."


"On behalf of the Minnesota Timberwolves, I would like to thank Rick for all he has done for our organization," said Taylor. "Under Rick's leadership, our team has improved each of the past three seasons. It has been a pleasure getting to know Rick and his wife Mary Kay, and I wish them the best in retirement."

Even as Adelman prepares to ride off into the sunset to spend more time with his beloved wife Mary Kay and eight grandchildren, his influence will remain in the league he called home for 25 years.


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I wasn't responding to you. I was correcting SacKingZZZ who said that when he left the rockets he said that he was done coaching to take care of his wife of failing health. In fact he said right after his contract expired with the rockets that he still wanted to coach and he a few months later got the job with the Twolves. It's probably hard seeing all the replies clearly on a smart phone app so no biggie.But thanks for posting his statements when he retired from the twolves. It helps anyone not clear that he said he was done.

benchmobbin02 wrote:
Im just tired of the posters that take back handed shots at Vlade and Karl but then try to negate the backlash they might get by throwing their vote of confidence behind them just in case they succeed. I'm calling people out when I see it! Vlade is the Head of the team. Period. Karl is the coach. Fall in or fall out! I will back them and stand up and take the flake if they fail.

If that's a reference to our recent conversation (regarding Vlade) you have misunderstood me. I have stated my adoration and support for Vlade on this board and the general board for months. He's long been my favorite current or former Kings player (along with Bobby Jackson) and I have been rooting for him to succeed.

I was worried based on the constant stream of national media reports that management wasn't telling us the truth. Fortunately, to my knowledge, our front office hasn't lied to us so far. So far, management has demonstrated respect for Kings fans.

If I ever were to criticize management, my criticisms would be based on the integrity with which they treated their fans. Whether we "succeed," in the sense of winning games is not something that changes my support of the Kings. In the 20 plus years I have followed them, they certainly haven't always been successful.

I also commented to you that trading Cousins was a bad idea, but that's an entirely different subject IMO. The integrity thing is the only serious issue for me.

In regards to Karl, most of us are only concerned that he is loyal to the organization. We'll see if he is. That's up to Vlade and Ranadive to decide. (I don't consider him part of management.)

Lastly, I admire your zeal for the team, but the spectrum of opinions on the forum makes for good healthy discussion. It's OK for people within a fan base to have differences of opinions.

benchmobbin02 wrote:

City of Trees wrote:

benchmobbin02 wrote:
Well, you're wrong.

The team announced that the Rockets and Adelman "have mutually agreed to part ways." Adelman's contract expires on June 30.

General manager Daryl Morey said in a statement Monday night that the decision came after "numerous discussions and careful consideration."

Now, Adelman will take time to ponder his next move. He said in the last week of the Rockets' season that he still has a passion for the job.

"I don't think I've lost the desire to coach; I think I still can do it," Adelman said. "This team has been a lot of fun. It's been tough during the season. I tell people that, when you go through it, it's not so easy. But when you work with a group of guys who just won't quit, and play above and beyond what people expect them to do, that's a lot of fun when you look back on it."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=6384752

Im just tired of the posters that take back handed shots at Vlade and Karl but then try to negate the backlash they might get by throwing their vote of confidence behind them just in case they succeed. I'm calling people out when I see it! Vlade is the Head of the team. Period. Karl is the coach. Fall in or fall out! I will back them and stand up and take the flake if they fail.

I'm just taking a shot in the dark here but didn't Adelman finish his coaching career in Minnesota?? Yep

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10815975/rick-adelman-minnesota-timberwolves-retiring

"I think it's time for me to step aside," Adelman said. "When I came here, we really tried to see if we could turn some things around and we made some strides. Not as much as we would have liked, but I think it's time for me to step aside and let someone else come in with this group. We're not that far away.

"I really enjoyed my time here. I thank [owner] Glen [Taylor] so much. He's the best owner I've ever been around. Not only as an owner, but as a person and everything. It's been an enjoyable experience, but I'm ready and my wife's ready to move on to another phase. We're looking forward to that."


"On behalf of the Minnesota Timberwolves, I would like to thank Rick for all he has done for our organization," said Taylor. "Under Rick's leadership, our team has improved each of the past three seasons. It has been a pleasure getting to know Rick and his wife Mary Kay, and I wish them the best in retirement."

Even as Adelman prepares to ride off into the sunset to spend more time with his beloved wife Mary Kay and eight grandchildren, his influence will remain in the league he called home for 25 years.


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I wasn't responding to you. I was correcting SacKingZZZ who said that when he left the rockets he said that he was done coaching to take care of his wife of failing health. In fact he said right after his contract expired with the rockets that he still wanted to coach and he a few months later got the job with the Twolves. It's probably hard seeing all the replies clearly on a smart phone app so no biggie.But thanks for posting his statements when he retired from the twolves. It helps anyone not clear that he said he was done.

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