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Why isn't Willie Cauley-Stein getting more minutes?
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:52 am
by BleedGreen1989
Outsider opinion but I've been a big fan of Trill since Kentucky and even drafted him in a couple keeper leagues. I know he's had his finger issues but when I watch WCS, he looks good.
Was reading this article on SB Nation that illustrated it nicely...
http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2016/1/11/10749336/willie-cauley-stein-needs-more-playing-timeIs this on Karl? Willie? Something he's not doing?
Re: Why isn't Willie Cauley-Stein getting more minutes?
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 5:46 am
by Kings2013
Statistically WCS has looked good with Cousins, and I think he was drafted ultimately as a compliment to Cousins
This year it's more a numbers crunch. Two of our better players this year are big SFs who can play some at the 4, Rudy and Omri, who have warranted 30+ in addition to Cousins/Koufos down low. Throw in the fact that he's a rookie on a win-now motivated team.
Re: RE: Why isn't Willie Cauley-Stein getting more minutes?
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 6:28 am
by City of Trees
Like the article says Karl has always mentioned his conditioning. I will agree he does suck a lot of wind while he's playing, but he seems to be moving freely. You said you watched him at Kentucky, has he always looked dead beat tired while I'm between play? Is that just his way of recouping energy or is this a sign he's out of conditioning ?
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Re: Why isn't Willie Cauley-Stein getting more minutes?
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:08 am
by bleeds_purple
Karl underplays McLemore and WCS and overplays Belinelli and Koufos along with giving minutes to Anderson and overplaying double point guard lineups.
It's the same story with Karl and young guys since time immemorial.
Re: RE: Re: Why isn't Willie Cauley-Stein getting more minutes?
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:53 pm
by City of Trees
bleeds_purple wrote:
It's the same story with Karl and young guys since time immemorial.
Not exactly. Go talk to life long Nuggets fans and tell them Willie starts, or even plays for that matter. Those fans will tell you that is not the norm with Karl, and they take it as Karl must really like him.
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Re: RE: Re: Why isn't Willie Cauley-Stein getting more minutes?
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:59 pm
by bleeds_purple
City of Trees wrote:bleeds_purple wrote:
It's the same story with Karl and young guys since time immemorial.
Not exactly. Go talk to life long Nuggets fans and tell them Willie starts, or even plays for that matter. Those fans will tell you that is not the norm with Karl, and they take it as Karl must really like him.
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That's a good point. I guess, relatively speaking for Karl, this is playing the young guys a lot.
Re: Why isn't Willie Cauley-Stein getting more minutes?
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 5:35 am
by City of Trees
Cauley-Stein once again shines in his limited minutes. Dude just enters the game and does what he does. How Koufus gets more minutes than him is mind boggling
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Re: RE: Why isn't Willie Cauley-Stein getting more minutes?
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:43 pm
by BleedGreen1989
City of Trees wrote:Like the article says Karl has always mentioned his conditioning. I will agree he does suck a lot of wind while he's playing, but he seems to be moving freely. You said you watched him at Kentucky, has he always looked dead beat tired while I'm between play? Is that just his way of recouping energy or is this a sign he's out of conditioning ?
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I never recall Willie being out of breath/shape. That could of been because he was so athletically ahead of guys in college he didn't have to "try" as hard as now in the NBA?
I live on the East Coast and unfortunately don't get to watch basketball on the West as much as I'd like but it seems every time he plays (almost), he impacts the game very positively.
Led the team with +12 last night.
Re: Why isn't Willie Cauley-Stein getting more minutes?
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 9:05 pm
by City of Trees
At the All Star break here is a look at the top rookies Offensive Efficiency

Willie leading the pack. Dude is exactly as advertised.
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Re: Why isn't Willie Cauley-Stein getting more minutes?
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 9:56 pm
by benchmobbin02
City of Trees wrote:Cauley-Stein once again shines in his limited minutes. Dude just enters the game and does what he does. How Koufus gets more minutes than him is mind boggling
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Koufos doesn't get more mins then WCS.
Re: RE: Re: Why isn't Willie Cauley-Stein getting more minutes?
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 9:58 pm
by City of Trees
benchmobbin02 wrote:City of Trees wrote:Cauley-Stein once again shines in his limited minutes. Dude just enters the game and does what he does. How Koufus gets more minutes than him is mind boggling
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Koufos doesn't get more mins then WCS.
That post is almost a month old... And at that time yes he did. Glad things have changed
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Re: RE: Re: Why isn't Willie Cauley-Stein getting more minutes?
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:06 pm
by benchmobbin02
City of Trees wrote:benchmobbin02 wrote:City of Trees wrote:Cauley-Stein once again shines in his limited minutes. Dude just enters the game and does what he does. How Koufus gets more minutes than him is mind boggling
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Koufos doesn't get more mins then WCS.
That post is almost a month old... And at that time yes he did. Glad things have changed
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Haha, DANGIT! I didn't even notice date on that. Just read the last few posts after the chart you posted and went to check the stats. My bad
Yeah, Koufos and WCS stat line is almost identical besides WCS shooting 60% and KK shooting 53%. That probably has a lot to do with WCS's amount of above the rim plays.
Re: Why isn't Willie Cauley-Stein getting more minutes?
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:16 pm
by Johnny Bball
Your best netrtg lineup has WCS in it, instead of Casspri with the starters. I'm not sure that's exactly enough of a sample size to be taken that literally but that's what is working best sometimes.
Re: Why isn't Willie Cauley-Stein getting more minutes?
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 6:12 am
by City of Trees
I'm just gonna drop this here. 12 pts, reb, 2 steals in 17 minutes.
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Re: Why isn't Willie Cauley-Stein getting more minutes?
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 7:46 pm
by bleeds_purple
Seems like we should have one of Acy/WCS (defense) and one of Cousins/Gay (offense) in the game at all times.
When we don't things go to **** in a hurry.