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[City of Trees]

Cutting Tolliver makes me think something is being worked, possibly Evan Turner and pick(s) for our space.

Let's hope it's something very useful/beneficial like this.
I don't know what price you put on a guy like Tolliver but I think it's quite high. Not his basketball, his leadership, professionalism. Everything.
That is an absolute steal at 8 million IMO.
It does give us a little more wiggle room as far as roster spots.
Let's see what the FO has planned.


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With the Paul / Spurs news I could see a Tony Parker salary dump trade with the Spurs. But what do we require to take the contract?

I'd be ok with the #29 and #59 (Euro stash)

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[Sactowndog]

Let's hope it's something very useful/beneficial like this.
I don't know what price you put on a guy like Tolliver but I think it's quite high. Not his basketball, his leadership, professionalism. Everything.
That is an absolute steal at 8 million IMO.
It does give us a little more wiggle room as far as roster spots.
Let's see what the FO has planned.


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With the Paul / Spurs news I could see a Tony Parker salary dump trade with the Spurs. But what do we require to take the contract?

I'd be ok with the #29 and #59 (Euro stash)

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Look at all the Spurs Euro players whose rights they hold. I could see Parker and Gasol for KK, 29 and at least one Euro. Would explain the Tolliver move.

[benchmobbin02]

With the Paul / Spurs news I could see a Tony Parker salary dump trade with the Spurs. But what do we require to take the contract?

I'd be ok with the #29 and #59 (Euro stash)

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Look at all the Spurs Euro players whose rights they hold. I could see Parker and Gasol for KK, 29 and at least one Euro. Would explain the Tolliver move.

Wouldn't it be

Parker, Gasol and #29

for

KK and a Euro...

We don't own the 29th, they do.

[Sactowndog]

I'd be ok with the #29 and #59 (Euro stash)

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Look at all the Spurs Euro players whose rights they hold. I could see Parker and Gasol for KK, 29 and at least one Euro. Would explain the Tolliver move.

Wouldn't it be

Parker, Gasol and #29

for

KK and a Euro...

We don't own the 29th, they do.

Sorry meant
Spurs: Parker, Gasol, 29 and a Euro

Kings: KK and take on dead cap space

[City of Trees]

Id rather do Parker, 29, 59 for future 2nd (top 55 protected). Koufos doesn't need to be involved to get value from the Spurs.

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[Sactowndog]

Id rather do Parker, 29, 59 for future 2nd (top 55 protected). Koufos doesn't need to be involved to get value from the Spurs.

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Spurs have some Euros worth targeting

[City of Trees]

Id rather do Parker, 29, 59 for future 2nd (top 55 protected). Koufos doesn't need to be involved to get value from the Spurs.

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Spurs have some Euros worth targeting

I'm not aware of who the Spurs own rights to but if there is a Euro worth Koufos I'm down.

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[51X3RF4N]

Trade #5 and #10 to Philly for #3 (Fox), Okafor, Covington (extend him for $10-12M/yr), and Bayless ($9M one year left on deal). Sixers also send your 2019 pick back.

Sound reasonable? Maybe you send us Malachi or something as a hometown kid who fits here?

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[Sactowndog]

Id rather do Parker, 29, 59 for future 2nd (top 55 protected). Koufos doesn't need to be involved to get value from the Spurs.

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Spurs have some Euros worth targeting

I'm not aware of who the Spurs own rights to but if there is a Euro worth Koufos I'm down.

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https://www.google.com/amp/www.poundingtherock.com/platform/amp/2016/5/26/11758712/spurs-draft-stash-davis-bertans-adam-hanga-Livio-Jean-Charles

[benchmobbin02]

Trade #5 and #10 to Philly for #3 (Fox), Okafor, Covington (extend him for $10-12M/yr), and Bayless ($9M one year left on deal). Sixers also send your 2019 pick back.

Sound reasonable? Maybe you send us Malachi or something as a hometown kid who fits here?

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I do that deal. Covington fits nice as a 3-D. Okafor is a scoring big we lack but is only locked for this year(club opt 2019). Bayless is depth at vet PG and and we still get our man and pick back. What's not to like...

[SacKingZZZ]

Trade #5 and #10 to Philly for #3 (Fox), Okafor, Covington (extend him for $10-12M/yr), and Bayless ($9M one year left on deal). Sixers also send your 2019 pick back.

Sound reasonable? Maybe you send us Malachi or something as a hometown kid who fits here?

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I think it's a pretty good deal all the way around. I'm not sure the Kings would extend Covington right now though. I'd also like to see the Kings maybe flip Okafor to another team either in the deal or afterward.

[sacking123]

Trade #5 and #10 to Philly for #3 (Fox), Okafor, Covington (extend him for $10-12M/yr), and Bayless ($9M one year left on deal). Sixers also send your 2019 pick back.

Sound reasonable? Maybe you send us Malachi or something as a hometown kid who fits here?

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If we could sign Covington that cheaply that would be fantastic.
I would really push for Malachi not to be included in this though. It wouldn't be a complete deal breaker or anything, however I want to see what our young guys can do together. Malachi didn't get that time late in the season after showing a bit earlier in the season and I think if those minutes went to him late in the season he would have showed what Vlade sees in him.

[benchmobbin02]

Trade #5 and #10 to Philly for #3 (Fox), Okafor, Covington (extend him for $10-12M/yr), and Bayless ($9M one year left on deal). Sixers also send your 2019 pick back.

Sound reasonable? Maybe you send us Malachi or something as a hometown kid who fits here?

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I think it's a pretty good deal all the way around. I'm not sure the Kings would extend Covington right now though. I'd also like to see the Kings maybe flip Okafor to another team either in the deal or afterward.

You can't trade a player you just traded for within that year.

[sacking123]

Trade #5 and #10 to Philly for #3 (Fox), Okafor, Covington (extend him for $10-12M/yr), and Bayless ($9M one year left on deal). Sixers also send your 2019 pick back.

Sound reasonable? Maybe you send us Malachi or something as a hometown kid who fits here?

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I think it's a pretty good deal all the way around. I'm not sure the Kings would extend Covington right now though. I'd also like to see the Kings maybe flip Okafor to another team either in the deal or afterward.

I would definitely extend Covington to a 4/50 type of deal. Would ideally like it to be 12.5 mill per year flat contract. That way he won't hurt the cap at the end of his contract, but we lock in a fantastic fit long term.
Okafor would be interesting, I would want to give him until the deadline and by then we should be able to see if he is going to fit long term with WCS/PapaG/Skal.

[City of Trees]

No interest in Okafor. Get a 3rd team involved with an asset going back to Sac. The tank commander needs to stay away from Sacramento.

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[benchmobbin02]

No interest in Okafor. Get a 3rd team involved with an asset going back to Sac. The tank commander needs to stay away from Sacramento.

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What kind of assest is someone gonna give up for Okafor? I doubt anyone would even throw a decent 2nd rder for him. He is due 5mil this year and has a club option next yr. We can handle him for a yr where he is playing for a contract. His post scoring off the bench could be of use in this scenario.

[City of Trees]

No interest in Okafor. Get a 3rd team involved with an asset going back to Sac. The tank commander needs to stay away from Sacramento.

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What kind of assest is someone gonna give up for Okafor? I doubt anyone would even throw a decent 2nd rder for him. He is due 5mil this year and has a club option next yr. We can handle him for a yr where he is playing for a contract. His post scoring off the bench could be of use in this scenario.

This guy?
.

No thanks. Simple fix, Philly keeps the tank commander and instead sends Sac #39.

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[benchmobbin02]

No interest in Okafor. Get a 3rd team involved with an asset going back to Sac. The tank commander needs to stay away from Sacramento.

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What kind of assest is someone gonna give up for Okafor? I doubt anyone would even throw a decent 2nd rder for him. He is due 5mil this year and has a club option next yr. We can handle him for a yr where he is playing for a contract. His post scoring off the bench could be of use in this scenario.

This guy?

No thanks. Simple fix, Philly keeps the tank commander and instead sends Sac #39.

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Yeah there is a reason he is in the deal.

Perfect scenario, of course we don't wanna take anything not great for us.

[KF10]

Okafor is in my "short" list of players I do not want even if it's free of cost.

If Okafor is in any trade proposal, the deal has to be a "home run" type of deal to negate his "value", imo. Or send him to a 3rd team and let the other team deal with him.

The "#5 + #10 for #3" trade proposal has been discussed in the T&T board and the majority agreed that it is an unfair deal for Sacramento. I don't see why we agree to the deal above even with the added pieces (RC & Okafor). The only saving grace is the '19 pick is returned to Sacramento. That is something I would consider a lot but to me, that pick is already is a sunk cost for Sacramento. To get the pick back, we have to exhaust a lot of resources to recover the '19 pick. The #5, #10, Malachi & taking Okafor from Philly's hands is a lot to chew on. I don't think it's worth it at all. Let them have the '19 pick if that's the cost to get the pick back. I would look to add picks in this draft to "compensate" the lack of pick in 2019. Maybe a #10 for the Portland's picks trade is something we should be looking at instead.

[SacKingZZZ]

Trade #5 and #10 to Philly for #3 (Fox), Okafor, Covington (extend him for $10-12M/yr), and Bayless ($9M one year left on deal). Sixers also send your 2019 pick back.

Sound reasonable? Maybe you send us Malachi or something as a hometown kid who fits here?

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I think it's a pretty good deal all the way around. I'm not sure the Kings would extend Covington right now though. I'd also like to see the Kings maybe flip Okafor to another team either in the deal or afterward.

You can't trade a player you just traded for within that year.

Did they change the rule of the 1 for 1 deal? I remember there was a restriction in package deals, but if it came via a dump as in for space or a pick without any other pieces going out I thought that was still OK.