Fox or Jackson?

Post #1 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:26 am

I know there is a draft thread, but I was interested in seeing specific discussion related to this possibility.

I think there is a very real possibility that the first four go:

Fultz
Ball
Tatum
Isaac

In this case, who would you rather have at 5, Fox or Jackson?

Post #2 » by **City of Trees** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:46 am

Im starting to think the Kings secretly LOVE Jackson and would take him. It's possible Kings have been using Fox as smoke.

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sacking123 · Post #3 » by **sacking123** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:58 am

I would do anything to grab #6 and take both of them.
Well not anything but close!

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blind prophet · Post #4 » by **blind prophet** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:01 am

Anyone who hasn't worked out here makes me a bit nervous. Especially if they fell in the draft.

But if this happened I'd take Jackson.

Hope to grab Frank at 10 or DSJ, 10 would the the hard to do pick if both of them are gone.

blind prophet · Post #5 » by **blind prophet** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:05 am

There's an unwritten rule about Kansas draft picks here in town though.

Post #6 » by **City of Trees** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:06 am

blind prophet wrote:There's an unwritten rule about Kansas draft picks here in town though.

True..... but every player is different.

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sacking123 · Post #7 » by **sacking123** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:07 am

Could it be possible?
Go to Portland and trade 34 for 15/26/Leonard (if they don't do 15 then 20)

Then
10/15 (or 20&26)/Richardson
For
6

Fox @5/Galloway
Hield/Bogdanovic
Jackson @6/Temple
Skal/Rabb @ 26
WCS/Leonard/Papa
What needs to be added to the Magic?

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Post #8 » by **City of Trees** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:14 am

simonbampfield wrote:Could it be possible?
Go to Portland and trade 34 for 15/26/Leonard (if they don't do 15 then 20)

Then
10/15 (or 20&26)/Richardson
For
6

Fox @5/Galloway
Hield/Bogdanovic
Jackson @6/Temple
Skal/Rabb @ 26
WCS/Leonard/Papa
What needs to be added to the Magic?

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In that Portland trade you'll probably need to change it from Leonard to Turner.

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sacking123 · Post #9 » by **sacking123** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:25 am

City of Trees wrote:
simonbampfield wrote:Could it be possible?
Go to Portland and trade 34 for 15/26/Leonard (if they don't do 15 then 20)

Then
10/15 (or 20&26)/Richardson
For
6

Fox @5/Galloway
Hield/Bogdanovic
Jackson @6/Temple
Skal/Rabb @ 26
WCS/Leonard/Papa
What needs to be added to the Magic?

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I'm that Portland trade you'll probably need to change it from Leonard to Turner.

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They would be able to choose whoever they want if it means we end up with both Fox and Jackson.
Do you think the Magic are in the position where they would like to add a number of young players instead of drafting say Fox?
They would prefer Jackson so he would be the pick at 5.

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jeffjtk1234 · Post #10 » by **jeffjtk1234** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:28 am

I'd take ball over both of them if he somehow drops, otherwise Jackson and take a pg at 10

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Post #11 » by **City of Trees** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:36 am

simonbampfield wrote:
City of Trees wrote:
simonbampfield wrote:Could it be possible?
Go to Portland and trade 34 for 15/26/Leonard (if they don't do 15 then 20)

Then
10/15 (or 20&26)/Richardson
For
6

Fox @5/Galloway
Hield/Bogdanovic
Jackson @6/Temple
Skal/Rabb @ 26
WCS/Leonard/Papa
What needs to be added to the Magic?

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I'm that Portland trade you'll probably need to change it from Leonard to Turner.

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They would be able to choose whoever they want if it means we end up with both Fox and Jackson.
Do you think the Magic are in the position where they would like to add a number of young players instead of drafting say Fox?
They would prefer Jackson so he would be the pick at 5.

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Orlando would probably want a PG at 10 and I doubt they are interested in Fox after Elfrid failed.

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Post #12 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:07 am

blind prophet wrote:There's an unwritten rule about Kansas draft picks here in town though.

I assume bad, like we feel about the Morris twins in Phx?

Post #13 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:10 am

simonbampfield wrote:
City of Trees wrote:
simonbampfield wrote:Could it be possible?
Go to Portland and trade 34 for 15/26/Leonard (if they don't do 15 then 20)

Then
10/15 (or 20&26)/Richardson
For
6

Fox @5/Galloway
Hield/Bogdanovic
Jackson @6/Temple
Skal/Rabb @ 26
WCS/Leonard/Papa
What needs to be added to the Magic?

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I'm that Portland trade you'll probably need to change it from Leonard to Turner.

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They would be able to choose whoever they want if it means we end up with both Fox and Jackson.
Do you think the Magic are in the position where they would like to add a number of young players instead of drafting say Fox?
They would prefer Jackson so he would be the pick at 5.

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I can't see Orlando doing it with a new FO, but if you took Jackson at 5, I don't think they'd take Fox...the last thing they need is another poor shooter...I know Jackson is scary as a shooter too but not as scary as Fox. Plus Fox duplicates Payton...they seem like the same player almost.

I think Orlando might take someone else.

I CAN see Minnesota possibly trading 7 for WCS though since Thibs wants defense.

PetrieUnderstudy · Post #14 » by **PetrieUnderstudy** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:31 am

bwgood77 wrote:
simonbampfield wrote:
City of Trees wrote:I'm that Portland trade you'll probably need to change it from Leonard to Turner.

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They would be able to choose whoever they want if it means we end up with both Fox and Jackson.
Do you think the Magic are in the position where they would like to add a number of young players instead of drafting say Fox?
They would prefer Jackson so he would be the pick at 5.

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I can't see Orlando doing it with a new FO, but if you took Jackson at 5, I don't think they'd take Fox...the last thing they need is another poor shooter...I know Jackson is scary as a shooter too but not as scary as Fox. Plus Fox duplicates Payton...they seem like the same player almost.

I think Orlando might take someone else.

I CAN see Minnesota possibly trading 7 for WCS though since Thibs wants defense.

If we came out of the draft with Jackson, Fox, and Bell...WOW! I'd prefer doing Blazer trade and offering 10/15 for 7 (Fox). WCS and Fox are friends and the youth, height, athleticism, and defensive potential of a lineup of Fox/Hield/Jackson/Labissiere/Cauley-Stein would be great.

One can dream.

Back to reality...I'd take Fox over Jackson with differentiator being his personality and "clean record".

SacKingZZZ · Post #15 » by **SacKingZZZ** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:19 am

bwgood77 wrote:
blind prophet wrote:There's an unwritten rule about Kansas draft picks here in town though.

I assume bad, like we feel about the Morris twins in Phx?

Morris twins >> TRob/Ben Mac :lol:

Although I think if Ben finds the right team he'll be a good NBA scorer.

SacKingZZZ · Post #16 » by **SacKingZZZ** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:21 am

Argh... so torn, but I have to go Jackson.

StepBackCrack · Post #17 » by **StepBackCrack** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:33 am

Fox easily.

Post #18 » by **codydaze** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:26 pm

blind prophet wrote:Anyone who hasn't worked out here makes me a bit nervous. Especially if they fell in the draft.

But if this happened I'd take Jackson.

Hope to grab Frank at 10 or DSJ, 10 would the the hard to do pick if both of them are gone.

Jackson did work out in Sacramento though. If the choice was between Fox and Jackson at 5, I'd probably take Jackson as well even though I've been a huge Fox fan all year. A wing combo of Hield/Jackson would be real nice. There would likely be no PGs left at 10 though, it looks like DSJ and Nkilitina will be both be gone by then so if that were the case, I'd probably look to trade down for 15+20 or 26.

rpa · Post #19 » by **rpa** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:33 pm

Interesting question. On the one hand the Kings *really* need a PG and there aren't any good ones in the 2018 draft (at least that's what it looks like). On the other hand, if you take Jackson that leaves 3 PGs on the board (Fox, DSJ, Ntilikina) on the board for picks 6-10. It makes me wonder if the Kings could then try to trade up to 6-8 from 10 in exchange for, well, something and secure Jackson at 5 and then Fox, DSJ, or Ntilikina at the acquired pick.

All that said, I'd rather go with the bird in the hand strategy and take Fox. Jackson scares me on too many levels.

209Kings · Post #20 » by **209Kings** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:44 pm

rpa wrote:Interesting question. On the one hand the Kings *really* need a PG and there aren't any good ones in the 2018 draft (at least that's what it looks like). On the other hand, if you take Jackson that leaves 3 PGs on the board (Fox, DSJ, Ntilikina) on the board for picks 6-10. It makes me wonder if the Kings could then try to trade up to 6-8 from 10 in exchange for, well, something and secure Jackson at 5 and then Fox, DSJ, or Ntilikina at the acquired pick.

All that said, I'd rather go with the bird in the hand strategy and take Fox. Jackson scares me on too many levels.

To land Jackson and Fox/DSJ without giving up any future firsts would be absolutely epic.

Who would you rather take at 5, Fox or Jackson?