Draft Watch 2018

[kingjawn100]

if we end up drafting Ayton i'd love to get a pass first backup point guard to backup Fox. Ayton is great but having no way of getting him the ball would be extremely frustrating (exactly what happened at arizona last year). Bigs these days are really only as good as your guards make them (what is capela without paul/harden?)

Right now is the time you really wish we still had Scott Perry. There's so much we could do with the 2nd pick but i just don't trust our front office in not getting fleeced.

Another positive about getting this pick is that the pressure is squarely on Joerger to adjust his style (especially if we get doncic). If we roll out Fox/Willie and Doncic and still play the same slowed down high post offense that he's always used there's no way he'll keep his job past this year. Show & prove time for him.

[BrunoSkull]

Doncic ftw. I know Raptors isn't a role model here, but having more than one ball-handler on the floor to control the pace, dribble drive and occupy the offensive output, is good receipt in today's nba team construct.

[City of Trees]

Imagine a lineup of Fox, Bogi, Doncic, Giles, WCS.

The passing would be outstanding. Spurs potential on offense.

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[OGSactownballer]

Congrats on the pick.

I think you guys are in a pretty good spot at #2 because either Ayton or Doncic will be available. In my opinion, Doncic would be ideal for Sac as he’d slide right into the SF spot. If Doncic is off the board i think i would take a hard look at JJJ instead of Ayton. JJJ is far more likely to be an impactfull defender and shooter and he would be a better fit next to WCS and Skal in the frontcourt.

I think the only way we do this is in a trade down. Unless something drastically changes between now and the draft, there is a clear top two and JJJ is in the second tier with Bagley ahead of him right now.

[madskillz8]

Just a hypothetical...if Michael Porter comes to Sac for a workout/physical, looks amazing and gets a 100% clean bill of health do we consider him at 2?

You mean in workouts he’s showing the ability to guard 3 or 4 with lateral quicks or strength/tenacity, good BBIQ, good handles, and a more diverse array than shooting and straight line drive? Maybe, but backs can reoccur even with a clean bill

He would be my favorite if we did not move up. Among projected top 10 players, he's the only player with superstar potential IMO given his scoring ability, height and motor. I thought that there is a change that he slips to 7th with injury concerns as kingjawn100 mentioned.

[madskillz8]

Assuming we end up with Doncic and keep Bogdan and Hield, the only thing to look for would be development of Skal, WCS and Giles. If only one of them have a big improvement next year, we can even have an argument for playoffs next year because Doncic is ready to contribute at high level (just like Bogdan) compared to other prospects.

[tyguy]

As great as it is to get a top 2 pick I don't feel confident in either gy becoming a superstar. Ayton seems like a throw back offensive center albeit with an expanding jumper, but his lack of shot blocking is a huge concern. Doncic also needs to shoot the three ball a hell of a lot better given he isn't an amazing athlete.

Not having a pick next year is a disaster. This helps for sure moving up, but I blind man would have enough foresight to realize that trade was a disaster. You never trade away potential lotto picks to free up cap space to sign mediocre talent.

[tyguy]

Congrats on the pick.

I think you guys are in a pretty good spot at #2 because either Ayton or Doncic will be available. In my opinion, Doncic would be ideal for Sac as he’d slide right into the SF spot. If Doncic is off the board i think i would take a hard look at JJJ instead of Ayton. JJJ is far more likely to be an impactfull defender and shooter and he would be a better fit next to WCS and Skal in the frontcourt.

I think the only way we do this is in a trade down. Unless something drastically changes between now and the draft, there is a clear top two and JJJ is in the second tier with Bagley ahead of him right now.

I agree with him. I like JJJ potential more because of his insane shot blocking, three point shot and a pick and roll rim runner. I'm not that interested in just feeding the post like it is 1995.

[City of Trees]

As great as it is to get a top 2 pick I don't feel confident in either gy becoming a superstar.

Ok.. For the sake of argument neither player becomes a superstar. You have the #2 pick so you can grab whichever player you feel will become a superstar. Do you see any in this draft class?



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[tyguy]

As great as it is to get a top 2 pick I don't feel confident in either gy becoming a superstar.

Ok.. For the sake of argument neither player becomes a superstar. You have the #2 pick so you can grab whichever player you feel will become a superstar. Do you see any in this draft class?



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No, but I do see a guy that i'm very confident in becoming a high impact player in JJJ because he can defend the perimeter, the paint and can make threes.

[perezident]

We are no position to be drafting need. BPA! The only way to attack this draft. Invite all the top 6 prospects into your building and work them out. You automatically find yourself in the driver seat. You send teams crazy not knowing your thought process. Ultimately you can "entertain" trade back talks, nothing outside the top 6.

[SacKingZZZ]

im still super excited but thats my only concern other than Vlade doing some weird, unnecessary trade of course.

Bogdan and Doncic seems redundant to me so far, from the little bit that i do know.

If there is an issue to be had in drafting Doncic it might be the effect to Bogdans game most of all. It would most certainly take the ball out of his hands and how much room is there for two non explosive pick and roll players like them? If Doncic were drafted I do hope they'd play him at the four quite a bit and use super talented lineup of Fox, Buddy, Bogdan, and Doncic together. There might not be a more versatile lineup in the league offensively.

For me it's very hard to imagine Luka playing PF in NBA.

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Not me. Look at some of the names getting major minutes there with all final 4 teams. I saw that slam interview and Doncic said he can play 1-4. I think so too. He's a bit like Bogdan, very strong, and he has a rough edge to him that doesn't mind contact. He won't be a full time PF of course but the Kings can finally go with that positionless lineup with him in there.

[JMac1]

Congrats on not having to make the choice between Doncic and Ayton. I think we go Ayton.

[SacKingZZZ]

if we end up drafting Ayton i'd love to get a pass first backup point guard to backup Fox. Ayton is great but having no way of getting him the ball would be extremely frustrating (exactly what happened at arizona last year). Bigs these days are really only as good as your guards make them (what is capela without paul/harden?)

Right now is the time you really wish we still had Scott Perry. There's so much we could do with the 2nd pick but i just don't trust our front office in not getting fleeced.

Another positive about getting this pick is that the pressure is squarely on Joerger to adjust his style (especially if we get doncic). If we roll out Fox/Willie and Doncic and still play the same slowed down high post offense that he's always used there's no way he'll keep his job past this year. Show & prove time for him.

Fox will be a nightmare in pick and roll. Once his coach lets him play it that is. Not to mention draw and kick. Don't confuse misuse with inability.

[JMac1]

My prediction is that we get Luka Doncic. Phoenix won't pass on Ayton in my opinion. Sacramento is the best place for Doncic to succeed too, with Vlade, Peja, Bogdanovic and our ties to him.

I swear that’s why we went 1 and 2. Ayton and Doncic has AZ ties. Doncic and Sac have Euro ties...

NBA match made in the back room of the lottery. Lol

[SacKingZZZ]

We are no position to be drafting need. BPA! The only way to attack this draft. Invite all the top 6 prospects into your building and work them out. You automatically find yourself in the driver seat. You send teams crazy not knowing your thought process. Ultimately you can "entertain" trade back talks, nothing outside the top 6.

And this is still another non true consensus draft even though it seems like the top 2 is being formed. I wouldn't be surprised at all to look back at this draft and see the top 5 all becoming really good players but the best of all being picked 4-5 deep. Bagley, Bamba, Porter Jr., heck, Kevin Knox and Miles Bridges have a ton of upside. I agree, invite them in and get as much info as possible.

[benchmobbin02]

Good, then the next step is to offer the max to Cousins and the circle is complete.

Don't you say that outloud even thou it would be poetic justice.

Vlade would be like, "See! I didn't lie. You just didn't ask me what year I meant." Haha

But real talk, the best scenario, in my eyes, is we take Doncic, give a max offer to Randle, Giles is a stud and everyone progresses

Who would you rather have, Randle or Aaron Gordon?

I had to think about this...

Both are young and athletic PF of similar size and have the ability to take over a game offensively. If I'm going pros and cons -

Gordon gets the check mark for
Athletics - super bounce and was a sprinter before basketball
3pt - shoot 33% on 6 atts a game last year. has a clean looking shot and can hit midrange as well.
Def Reb - Better boxing out and can push the ball up court after the reb
Ball Handling - I wouldn't say he is a point forward but has a good handle and can create for himself

Randle get the check mark for
Post off - bully down low. Has a variety of moves in the post and often makes the right play out of double teams whether split or pass
Passing - Good to great passer in the frame of the offense. Vision and unselfishness. Does get picked occasionally.
Off Reb - better on the Off glass than Gordon. Positioning and just being down low more help here.
Def - Randle is a better post and weak side defender than Gordan. Good insticnts as a help defender but Gordon plays the passing lanes better.

Even with these pluses and minuses it's not like one is bad in one of these areas either. Randle can stretch the floor and Gordon can play in the post. Gordon has good vision and instincts as a play-maker and Randle can handle the ball and create as well. It comes down to who is better for the team and who do we have the best chance to get?

I think Gordon makes us a more exciting team with the potential to be a bigger "star" type player but I also think Orl will back up the Truck and give him the max if they were smart. He is also from Cali (San Jose)

Now Randle has the ability to really help us in areas we lack. Post defense and toughness, rebounding and go to scoring on the block. He also may or may not be in the Lakers plans next year. Remains to be seen if they will match a max or near max offer for Randle. I can see them going for PG and Cousins to pair with Ball, Ingram and Kuzma. That is a pretty deadly lineup. But if they don't get two stars they can match any offer to Randle. Randle is from Dallas so I can see the Mavs making a run at him as well.

Right now, I say Randle is more likely but I would be over the moon with Gordon as well.

[EricAnderson]

As great as it is to get a top 2 pick I don't feel confident in either gy becoming a superstar. Ayton seems like a throw back offensive center albeit with an expanding jumper, but his lack of shot blocking is a huge concern. Doncic also needs to shoot the three ball a hell of a lot better given he isn't an amazing athlete.

Not having a pick next year is a disaster. This helps for sure moving up, but I blind man would have enough foresight to realize that trade was a disaster. You never trade away potential lotto picks to free up cap space to sign mediocre talent.

The only good news is next years draft is gonna w one of the weakest in awhile.

[tyguy]

As great as it is to get a top 2 pick I don't feel confident in either gy becoming a superstar. Ayton seems like a throw back offensive center albeit with an expanding jumper, but his lack of shot blocking is a huge concern. Doncic also needs to shoot the three ball a hell of a lot better given he isn't an amazing athlete.

Not having a pick next year is a disaster. This helps for sure moving up, but I blind man would have enough foresight to realize that trade was a disaster. You never trade away potential lotto picks to free up cap space to sign mediocre talent.

The only good news is next years draft is gonna w one of the weakest in awhile.

The same thing was said about 2011. The clippers tossed their pick away as most were convinced it was weak, but then it produced Kawhi, Klay, Kyrie, Butler. Kemba Walker is also a good player that was in that draft. It may end up being poor, but we really don't know for certain.

[EricAnderson]

As great as it is to get a top 2 pick I don't feel confident in either gy becoming a superstar. Ayton seems like a throw back offensive center albeit with an expanding jumper, but his lack of shot blocking is a huge concern. Doncic also needs to shoot the three ball a hell of a lot better given he isn't an amazing athlete.

Not having a pick next year is a disaster. This helps for sure moving up, but I blind man would have enough foresight to realize that trade was a disaster. You never trade away potential lotto picks to free up cap space to sign mediocre talent.

The only good news is next years draft is gonna w one of the weakest in awhile.

The same thing was said about 2011. The clippers tossed their pick away as most were convinced it was weak, but then it produced Kawhi, Klay, Kyrie, Butler. Kemba Walker is also a good player that was in that draft. It may end up being poor, but we really don't know for certain.

There will be good players every draft has them but you can tell in high school if anyone in the class has generational talent ability nobody in next years class does.