Koufos and Temple

LightTheBeam · Post #1 » by **LightTheBeam** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:24 am

Its been real quiet around here. Hopefully its the holidays but I think it has more to with being 5-14.

Either way. Temple and Koufos both have players options for next year around 8mil per year.

What do you think the chances that either opts out is?

Personally I think Temple is more than a 50% chance. He hasn't really made money through his career but I could see him landing a 3/20 somewhere and taking the long term security. Hes going to be 32 years old. He shoots 37% from 3, can handle the ball a bit, plays defense. I could really see him taking partial MLE to join a contending team. Maybe go back to Washington to play with Wall/Beal again? Spurs would be a good fit for him, Pop could really help put him in a position to succeed.

Koufos I think is as good as locked in for next year. I don't think he sniffs close to 8 mil on the open market in todays NBA, I see him having to take a vet min or a possibly 5mil at most once his contract is done.

Thoughts?

enderwilson · Post #2 » by **enderwilson** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:35 pm

Temple definitely has more flexibility to test the market and bolt to another team should the opportunity present itself. However, one of the things that most people like about him is the substance over style. If the Kings give him a better offer, AND if he really likes playing here and the camaraderie of the team, then I don't think he cares about rings too much. I'd like to think he's more interested in growing with a team and his teammates and taking the journey with them.

Kinda like Casspi. While Omri is in a pretty great situation now, I think in his heart of hearts he'd rather be in Sacramento.

blind prophet · Post #3 » by **blind prophet** » Wed Nov 29, 2017 2:37 am

I think Kosta will be able to get a 2+ a limited guarantee on the third year that's competitive & will walk so he'll opt out.

Temple has a good chance to opt out if he wants to take less over 1 year but more on a two year. I think he stays & opts in to try and make the most money he can.

Post #4 » by **City of Trees** » Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:07 am

I wouldn't be shocked if Kosta opted out cuz minutes will be hard to come by for KK. Papa will be on year 3 (WTF, over.), Giles will be in play for minutes, and any potential top 5 pick

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SacKingZZZ · Post #5 » by **SacKingZZZ** » Wed Nov 29, 2017 5:56 am

As tough as it will be in terms of options on the market for the Kings I think neither one will opt out. Chances are the crushing force of a flat cap will impact teams yet again this year and whatever market there is for players will dry up really quick. Both of these players fit into the category of ones that will probably find themselves grasping for anything comparable to the annual salary they will be opting out of as the summer drags on.

Post #6 » by **City of Trees** » Wed Nov 29, 2017 6:11 am

SacKingZZZ wrote:As tough as it will be in terms of options on the market for the Kings I think neither one will opt out. Chances are the crushing force of a flat cap will impact teams yet again this year and whatever market there is for players will dry up really quick. Both of these players fit into the category of ones that will probably find themselves grasping for anything comparable to the annual salary they will be opting out of as the summer drags on.

You're assuming money is their #1 priority. I don't know that to be true or false so its hard to say what they will do. Both are at a stage in their careers where players tend to value playing/winning over sitting the bench on a losing team.

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SacKingZZZ · Post #7 » by **SacKingZZZ** » Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:31 pm

City of Trees wrote:
SacKingZZZ wrote:As tough as it will be in terms of options on the market for the Kings I think neither one will opt out. Chances are the crushing force of a flat cap will impact teams yet again this year and whatever market there is for players will dry up really quick. Both of these players fit into the category of ones that will probably find themselves grasping for anything comparable to the annual salary they will be opting out of as the summer drags on.

You're assuming money is their #1 priority. I don't know that to be true or false so its hard to say what they will do. Both are at a stage in their careers where players tend to value playing/winning over sitting the bench on a losing team.

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I'm also assuming teams will tighten up their belt straps again in the summer. You had some players sit and wait for a long time last go around. I can't see how last summer doesn't make a whole lot of option players uneasy. The truth is they could put themselves in a position that they prematurely have to settle in as minimum players. I know Temple has already pulled out the "I want to finish my career here" talk as well.

LightTheBeam · Post #8 » by **LightTheBeam** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:32 pm

City of Trees wrote:
SacKingZZZ wrote:As tough as it will be in terms of options on the market for the Kings I think neither one will opt out. Chances are the crushing force of a flat cap will impact teams yet again this year and whatever market there is for players will dry up really quick. Both of these players fit into the category of ones that will probably find themselves grasping for anything comparable to the annual salary they will be opting out of as the summer drags on.

You're assuming money is their #1 priority. I don't know that to be true or false so its hard to say what they will do. Both are at a stage in their careers where players tend to value playing/winning over sitting the bench on a losing team.

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Neither guy has made 100's of millions. They both seem like responsible spenders so I wouldn't be surprised if they were more cost conscious with their money. That being said players who haven't made Wade, KG, Dirk even David West style money typically go for the most money they can get.

enderwilson · Post #9 » by **enderwilson** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:38 pm

George Hill is the perfect example of why players might be cautious when considering testing the free market waters. Having turned down more in Utah to take less and play in Sac probably has many players with less to offer than what Hill did feel a bit uneasy.

becorz · Post #10 » by **becorz** » Tue Dec 5, 2017 11:54 pm

Under the CBA, can a player and a team make an agreement, have the player opt out, and then immediately sign some sort of contract. Or maybe opt in and change the contract?

I think that Temple and the Kings have a good relationship and they could easily come to a deal similar in structure to Hill but for less money. Maybe a two year, $15 million deal with a third year for $8 million with only $1 million guaranteed.

SacKingZZZ · Post #11 » by **SacKingZZZ** » Wed Dec 6, 2017 12:00 am

becorz wrote:Under the CBA, can a player and a team make an agreement, have the player opt out, and then immediately sign some sort of contract. Or maybe opt in and change the contract?

I think that Temple and the Kings have a good relationship and they could easily come to a deal similar in structure to Hill but for less money. Maybe a two year, $15 million deal with a third year for $8 million with only $1 million guaranteed.

Yeah, I think the Spurs have had players do that before.

sacking123 · Post #12 » by **sacking123** » Wed Dec 6, 2017 3:43 am

becorz wrote:Under the CBA, can a player and a team make an agreement, have the player opt out, and then immediately sign some sort of contract. Or maybe opt in and change the contract?

I think that Temple and the Kings have a good relationship and they could easily come to a deal similar in structure to Hill but for less money. Maybe a two year, $15 million deal with a third year for $8 million with only $1 million guaranteed.

I think this is actually what will happen. I get the feeling Temple is happy here and would like to grow with the team.

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