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SacKingZZZ wrote:This could take forever. Long story short, never fully committing to winning or rebuilding and trying to do both at the same time. The Maloof era was obviously hamstrung for a variety of reasons but I'll say this for Viveks tenure:
1. Hired the wrong management (PDA, Mullin, horrible)
2. Hired the wrong coach (Karl) for their franchise player (Cuz).
3. Instead of building a team around him they went BPA with the only assets they had (draft picks) and watched all their value die on the vine because they weren't allowed to produce (Even Trob could have put up some numbers, winning? Probably not but still. Build him up and flip him).
4. Hired the right coach (Joerger) for their star but had little assets at that point to build a team around him so they traded him.
5. Now we sit in position where perhaps they again have the wrong coach for their young team. If so then the path continues on as all value is leeched from their young talent.
It always seems like the right move finally comes but too late or at the wrong time. Had they not fired Karl and instead traded Cousins they might have a coach that fits the young players they have now much better. At this point it comes down to how much Joerger can either get these young players to shine in his system, or play the right system for them.
dark shark wrote:SacKingZZZ wrote:This could take forever. Long story short, never fully committing to winning or rebuilding and trying to do both at the same time. The Maloof era was obviously hamstrung for a variety of reasons but I'll say this for Viveks tenure:
1. Hired the wrong management (PDA, Mullin, horrible)
2. Hired the wrong coach (Karl) for their franchise player (Cuz).
3. Instead of building a team around him they went BPA with the only assets they had (draft picks) and watched all their value die on the vine because they weren't allowed to produce (Even Trob could have put up some numbers, winning? Probably not but still. Build him up and flip him).
4. Hired the right coach (Joerger) for their star but had little assets at that point to build a team around him so they traded him.
5. Now we sit in position where perhaps they again have the wrong coach for their young team. If so then the path continues on as all value is leeched from their young talent.
It always seems like the right move finally comes but too late or at the wrong time. Had they not fired Karl and instead traded Cousins they might have a coach that fits the young players they have now much better. At this point it comes down to how much Joerger can either get these young players to shine in his system, or play the right system for them.
Ok thank you for the answer. My understanding is that they just had some unfortunate timing with their moves because the pieces were always there..
BoogieTime wrote:Bad time to bring up Kings don’t have a representative in SI’s top 100 in 2019 list (only team without a member)?
BoogieTime wrote:Bad time to bring up Kings don’t have a representative in SI’s top 100 in 2019 list (only team without a member)?
OhioKingsFan wrote:Why are the Kings bad?
-The Kings really don't have a guy that leads them, there is no "star player".
-We have too many big men and too few wings in a league that favors wing and guard play.
-Too many elite "athletes" without elite skills.
-Poor front office decision making in trades, free agent signings,
-Too many under-performers taken with high draft picks.
-The Kings as an organization have lost credibility with the players and media. We can't attract marquee free agents unless we significantly overpay, so the draft is our best chance at improving talent... but we keep leaving draft day feeling like we didn't get the best or even the right players available.
-Last year there was such a discrepancy between the style that would benefit the young players and the style that was actually played in games.
Is there reason for hope?
-Sure! Fox, Buddy, Bogdan, and Giles look to me like they could all be legitimate starting caliber players this season. WCS, Kosta, Bjelica, and Yogi are all rotation NBA players. Sadly, we're still looking for consistent signs of life from JJ and Skal, while Frank Mason is not yet ready to handle the backup PG spot.
-My hope is definitely tempered. Hopefully the Kings will be a "fun" team this year, but they won't be a good team.
-The path to improvement seems to be somewhat clear: invest in player development, target a wing, improve front office competency (Vlade is not the man for the job). Unfortunately, since we don't have a draft pick this year, I don't expect to see signs of a "good team" until at least another 2 seasons have played out. I'm looking at you draft of 2020!