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The G-League player looks decent.

Nice win. This team is actually watchable and has some exciting stretches.

Bjelica has been great. Might be the most underrated signing for any team. Also like what we're seeing from WCS. Already has good chemistry with Bjelica.

Giles clearly isn't ready for significant minutes but he's missed most of the last 3 years due to injury. More of a wild card than part of the core. Jackson has looked pretty bad. Could end up out of the rotation, especially when Bogdan is ready.

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SactoKingsFan wrote:Nice win. This team is actually watchable and has some exciting stretches.

Bjelica has been great. Might be the most underrated signing for any team. Also like what we're seeing from WCS. Already has good chemistry with Bjelica.

Giles clearly isn't ready for significant minutes but he's missed most of the last 3 years due to injury. More of a wild card than part of the core. Jackson has looked pretty bad. Could end up out of the rotation, especially when Bogdan is ready.

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I'd prefer JJ against Shump. His defence is solid while shot selection is much better - no low effective long 2s. He struggles with 3s, but takes good shots, just give him some time.


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Neither Jackson or Hield have taken that jump we want them to take. I hope that neither lose their rotation minutes when Bogs comes back. I hope they coach them through this looking forward to 20-21. That should be the time that Fox and Bagley break out as well.

jazanetti wrote:

SactoKingsFan wrote:Nice win. This team is actually watchable and has some exciting stretches.

Bjelica has been great. Might be the most underrated signing for any team. Also like what we're seeing from WCS. Already has good chemistry with Bjelica.

Giles clearly isn't ready for significant minutes but he's missed most of the last 3 years due to injury. More of a wild card than part of the core. Jackson has looked pretty bad. Could end up out of the rotation, especially when Bogdan is ready.

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I'd prefer JJ against Shump. His defence is solid while shot selection is much better - no low effective long 2s. He struggles with 3s, but takes good shots, just give him some time.


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Jackson should be closer to 10- 15 mins than the almost 30 mins he's been playing due to not having a legit starting SF.

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dckingsfan wrote:Neither Jackson or Hield have taken that jump we want them to take. I hope that neither lose their rotation minutes when Bogs comes back. I hope they coach them through this looking forward to 20-21. That should be the time that Fox and Bagley break out as well.

Did I read that first sentence right? HIeld has been fine

I LIke what I’m seeing. The this team is killing me thread might be on hiatus

Before the season start SAC was projected as one of the worst teams in an entire league , yet SAC plays very well and you see that they, at least, should not fear from any team coming from the East. I am looking forward for Bogdan's return too but everyone should earn their minutes and I expect coach to respect that unwritten rule.

Something is rotting in Minnesota , IDK what is it but Bjelica was so depressed after last season that he wanted to escape not only from there but to leave NBA completely. With Kings, Bjelica received a treatment which Vlade promised him and luckily Nemanja did not go back to Europe. During his time in MIN he did improve his 3pt shot but was just basically doing that and was excluded from having any significant ball possessions. Now Belly is showing that he is underrated defender and I am glad that SAC gave him a type of role where he can flourish. Really it was silly how "Timber-jacks" used him , he was often given hard task of guarding opponents big PF's who played like centers and on offense his role was heavily limited by the coaching staff. He was always getting the worst matches. Wiggins and Towns are still being forced there and it seems that their performance is more important than carrying out of the team. This will not reflect positively on two of them either. As I already said several times Nemanja isn't great at anything but is solid in everything which makes him good, glue guy good, not great but decisively good.

Popovich wrote:Before the season start SAC was projected as one of the worst teams in an entire league , yet SAC plays very well and you see that they, at least, should not fear from any team coming from the East. I am looking forward for Bogdan's return too but everyone should earn their minutes and I expect coach to respect that unwritten rule.

Something is rotting in Minnesota , IDK what is it but Bjelica was so depressed after last season that he wanted to escape not only from there but to leave NBA completely. With Kings, Bjelica received a treatment which Vlade promised him and luckily Nemanja did not go back to Europe. During his time in MIN he did improve his 3pt shot but was just basically doing that and was excluded from having any significant ball possessions. Now Belly is showing that he is underrated defender and I am glad that SAC gave him a type of role where he can flourish. Really it was silly how "Timber-jacks" used him , he was often given hard task of guarding opponents big PF's who played like centers and on offense his role was heavily limited by the coaching staff. He was always getting the worst matches. Wiggins and Towns are still being forced there and it seems that their performance is more important than carrying out of the team. This will not reflect positively on two of them either. As I already said several times Nemanja isn't great at anything but is solid in everything which makes him good, glue guy good, not great but decisively good.

Heck yeah, what a save by Vlade. Bjelica is someone that might be changing the course of this teams future as that glue guy. What a great fit he is with this team. He's got all the skills checked, he plays hard, and he can carry them at times. Best FA signing from Vlade by far.

BoogieTime wrote:

dckingsfan wrote:Neither Jackson or Hield have taken that jump we want them to take. I hope that neither lose their rotation minutes when Bogs comes back. I hope they coach them through this looking forward to 20-21. That should be the time that Fox and Bagley break out as well.

Did I read that first sentence right? HIeld has been fine

You read it right

I wanted to see a bigger jump from both of them. But there is time...

dckingsfan wrote:

BoogieTime wrote:

dckingsfan wrote:Neither Jackson or Hield have taken that jump we want them to take. I hope that neither lose their rotation minutes when Bogs comes back. I hope they coach them through this looking forward to 20-21. That should be the time that Fox and Bagley break out as well.

Did I read that first sentence right? HIeld has been fine

You read it right

I wanted to see a bigger jump from both of them. But there is time...

Hield has been scoring pretty damn efficiently this year. It's clear hes made a leap in every aspect but his ball handling play making. I'll wait till bogdan comes back to truly judge, we knew that wasnt his strength but hes being forced into it at times. Hell last night coach and he and shump playing 1/2 for a stretch.

Jackson wasnt great last night but for the first time in his career I saw something I hadn't seen before. He played terrible the first 3 quarters and then had a pretty damn good 4th. Made some defensive plays, hit a nice 3. Usually if he starts bad he disappears, so hes trending in the right direction.

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Popovich wrote:Before the season start SAC was projected as one of the worst teams in an entire league , yet SAC plays very well and you see that they, at least, should not fear from any team coming from the East. I am looking forward for Bogdan's return too but everyone should earn their minutes and I expect coach to respect that unwritten rule.

Something is rotting in Minnesota , IDK what is it but Bjelica was so depressed after last season that he wanted to escape not only from there but to leave NBA completely. With Kings, Bjelica received a treatment which Vlade promised him and luckily Nemanja did not go back to Europe. During his time in MIN he did improve his 3pt shot but was just basically doing that and was excluded from having any significant ball possessions. Now Belly is showing that he is underrated defender and I am glad that SAC gave him a type of role where he can flourish. Really it was silly how "Timber-jacks" used him , he was often given hard task of guarding opponents big PF's who played like centers and on offense his role was heavily limited by the coaching staff. He was always getting the worst matches. Wiggins and Towns are still being forced there and it seems that their performance is more important than carrying out of the team. This will not reflect positively on two of them either. As I already said several times Nemanja isn't great at anything but is solid in everything which makes him good, glue guy good, not great but decisively good.

Heck yeah, what a save by Vlade. Bjelica is someone that might be changing the course of this teams future as that glue guy. What a great fit he is with this team. He's got all the skills checked, he plays hard, and he can carry them at times. Best FA signing from Vlade by far.

Just want to reiterate. BY FAR. What a steal he and Yogi have been.

I'm convinced Randolph, hill and Vince were all favors to joerger. Something like okay let's try this your way and when it doesnt work we do it my way.. joerger deserves some credit for actually switching his coaching style and letting the team push pace.

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dckingsfan wrote:

BoogieTime wrote:Did I read that first sentence right? HIeld has been fine

You read it right

I wanted to see a bigger jump from both of them. But there is time...

Hield has been scoring pretty damn efficiently this year. It's clear hes made a leap in every aspect but his ball handling play making. I'll wait till bogdan comes back to truly judge, we knew that wasnt his strength but hes being forced into it at times. Hell last night coach and he and shump playing 1/2 for a stretch.

Jackson wasnt great last night but for the first time in his career I saw something I hadn't seen before. He played terrible the first 3 quarters and then had a pretty damn good 4th. Made some defensive plays, hit a nice 3. Usually if he starts bad he disappears, so hes trending in the right direction.

Maybe I am being too critical. The parts of his game that I haven't liked so far are:
Scoring efficiency and especially scoring around the hoop - you are right about this one. 3 point percentage has stayed high which is terrific.

What I don't like so far:
Too many TOs and not an increase in assists. Basically, he should have been working on his ball handling during the summer but it doesn't look like that happened. And his "judgement" around moving the ball hasn't increased.

Look at the jump that Fox has taken. That is the type of jump we need Hield to take.

And, his D really hasn't improved (I think it has taken a step backward).

BUT..... it is early in the season. They are playing with pace and that is an adjustment, so you give it time.

What I don't agree with is that Bogs will have a huge effect because of passing. I think he will have a bigger affect because the wings can play in shorter bursts (which they need with this type of pace).

Either way - they are really fun to watch and DEFINITELY trending in the right direction

dckingsfan wrote:Look at the jump that Fox has taken. That is the type of jump we need Hield to take.

You're just expecting too much.

He will either end up as a decent bench player or if he pans out all the way then he's a 4th/5th starter. For him to truly succeed he's going to have to change his game a little. Less dribbling. More off-ball movement. If he plays like JJ Reddick he will have a long and productive career.

bleeds_purple wrote:

dckingsfan wrote:Look at the jump that Fox has taken. That is the type of jump we need Hield to take.

You're just expecting too much.

He will either end up as a decent bench player or if he pans out all the way then he's a 4th/5th starter. For him to truly succeed he's going to have to change his game a little. Less dribbling. More off-ball movement. If he plays like JJ Reddick he will have a long and productive career.

I would totally take a Redick comparison. Catch and shoot... Redick takes more than 1/2 his shots behind the 3 point line as should Hield. And Redick in his 20s was a much better defender.

Hield is taking 1/3 of his shots behind the line - way too many long 2s and 2s not at the hoop 441%. And his D has definitely taken a step back.

But this could be coaching on both ends. First, let him know that you don't want those long 2s. Second, take him out when he is winded and can't defend.

If Buddy Hield plays 36 mpg instead of 29 then you're probably looking at someone getting you 20-21 and 6 from the SG spot every night on 50% shooting and 42% from 3. Much more of a jump than that and you're talking near MVP discussion productivity.

dckingsfan wrote:

bleeds_purple wrote:

dckingsfan wrote:Look at the jump that Fox has taken. That is the type of jump we need Hield to take.

You're just expecting too much.

He will either end up as a decent bench player or if he pans out all the way then he's a 4th/5th starter. For him to truly succeed he's going to have to change his game a little. Less dribbling. More off-ball movement. If he plays like JJ Reddick he will have a long and productive career.

I would totally take a Redick comparison. Catch and shoot... Redick takes more than 1/2 his shots behind the 3 point line as should Hield. And Redick in his 20s was a much better defender.

Hield is taking 1/3 of his shots behind the line - way too many long 2s. And his D has definitely taken a step back. But this could be coaching on both ends. First, let him know that you don't want those long 2s. Second, take him out when he is winded and can't defend.

I can't even begin to ascertain what anyone of the team is defensively yet. I haven't seen much consistency from a strategic level but I have seen spurts from almost everyone that they can D up.

I think Buddy should be taking more 3's as well but so should the whole team really. Redick and Buddy are similar in that they are catch and shoot types but Buddy's attack game is miles ahead of Redicks at the same age and Buddy will get you near Bonzi Wells rebounding numbers. I think Buddy would have a better shot than Redick at surviving in the league 10 years ago and with rules changes and style changes you've seen how someone like Redick has become more and more valuable. It's almost like Nash prior to the defensive rule changes. He was a good all star level player, but then after he was a multiple time MVP. Players like Redick and Buddy who probably fit the game now similarly are much more valuable today. That said I do think Buddy will be a better player and has more one on one possibilities than Redick.

You may be right... I took your suggesting to look. I kind of cherry picked - I put in 175 minutes (Buddy has played 183). I put in 6'5 or under.

If he shot 1/2 his shots from 3 and if he upped his D he would be in the Beal to Redick conversion

This is a coaching issue and he can get there... but he hasn't taken the jump yet.

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