BoogieTime wrote: RipPizzaGuy wrote:
I think it was not a Morey thing out of circumstance. He was able to transition from TMac/Yao to Harden. If a franchise player became available im sure McNair would pursue
I don’t personally agree with having random vets help us to the 10th pick instead of the 4th in the coming years if the rebuild is on. IMO that hurts more long term than not having any possible culture change
The Kings just laid off more personnel today, team is bleeding financially which could further lead to a rebuild though
In 2010 the Rockets won 43 games with Hayes/Scola/Battier/Martin/Lowry.
2011 2 games over .500 with no stars at all.
2012 is when they made the play for Harden and jumped up to 45 wins.
Harden wasn't always Harden though. I think Monte may look at that route, and try to find the next dump of a guy like Brogdan. Or how Indiana did the same thing by instead of moving George to tank, grabbing 2 guys with untapped potential.
I'm far more interested in trying to get some young guys with untapped (or slightly tapped) potential like Divincenzo, LeVert, White, Thybulle, than I am fire selling the entire team for a bunch of draft picks. The method has proven to be largely unsuccessful with some outliers. It will lead Sac to 5 more years of awful play, and further cementing our 20 years as the Browns of the NBA.
Like I said, i'm not tied to any player individually. I also have no faith in the draft lottery talent or that even if we sell we would be worse than teams like Charlotte, Cleveland, NY, Pistons, Bulls, Wolves, Hawks, etc... Basically the same teams who have been bad for awhile.
Like I said, i'm all on board the Toronto, Miami, Indiana, and Houston route. WE can make moves that help us win now, and improve us in the future. The stink has got to go.
I don’t think it would be that hard to have one of the top picks in the next two drafts. Carmichael Dave often touts the Kings have the worst roster in the West now. West will be competitive.
I still think typical non FA small markets build through the draft, as the league is about top tier talent and it’s not easy to trade for it IMO
I don’t mind taking chances on young players, but bringing in vets like Hayward with no timeline to win games I personally wouldn’t be down with, and I’ll be surprised if McNair goes that route. But maybe your intent was just a contract to get picks from Boston and move Barnes
Carmichael Dave... The West will be tough no doubt about it. People can say that all they want. Spurs are going down fast, Pelicans are relying on Zion who can't stay healthy and may trade Holiday away, PHX is the 2018-2019 Kings who everyone assumed was prime to make a jump and nothing is promised, no faith in the Wolves or KAT, Grizzlies again another team who did well to start the season and then fell off towards the end just like Sac in 2018-2019, Thunder will probably not retain Gallo and find a trade for CP3. And then we see teams get injured all the time.
This is not clear cut whatsoever. We aren't the Cavs with no serviceable NBA players.
I actually think its the opposite. Small market teams that try to continually build thru the draft never go anywhere. The benefit of a large market tanking is they can retain their guys, then trade for a superstar and retain them.
We got Fox, and hopefully Bagley stays healthy this year. We had some tradable pieces 2 years ago and never made our "splash move." Instead we got Barnes.
The idea of bringing in Hayward is that you can move long term salary, get Hayward, and get some assets. This likely makes us better in the short term and in the long term.
Something like Buddy/Holmes for Hayward/#26
Then if the reports Turner wants out are true... Barnes/Bjelica/#12 for Turner/McDermott/2021 Pacers 1st
Use 26 and #35 to move up to the teens and grab Saddiq Bey.
Next year we have the Pacers 1st and our 1st. While also having a much better team that can actually stay competitive. Collect assets while building a winning culture.