ImageImageImageImageImage

Kings General Discussion 2019-2020

Moderators: codydaze, KF10, City of Trees

Silver Man
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,821
And1: 413
Joined: Jun 03, 2007
 

Re: Kings General Discussion 2019-2020 

Post#361 » by Silver Man » Fri Aug 21, 2020 4:57 pm

jazanetti wrote:
BoogieTime wrote:I’ve been on the starting Buddy/BOgi together train for years

If I had to pick one it would be Buddy. I don’t like Bogdan inconsistency.

But to me now, the answer is neither. It’s justin James/and or our draft picks or young FAs. We need to be rebuilding, not keeping treadmill players

Agree. If I have to choose, I'd prefer Buddy because he has elite skill. Bogi is better overall but not good enough in anything to use him as some one to build aroud. We are not at position to overpay role players.


Wait, Buddy is consistent?
BoogieTime
Analyst
Posts: 3,242
And1: 1,181
Joined: Feb 09, 2017
 

Re: Kings General Discussion 2019-2020 

Post#362 » by BoogieTime » Fri Aug 21, 2020 8:00 pm

Silver Man wrote:
jazanetti wrote:
BoogieTime wrote:I’ve been on the starting Buddy/BOgi together train for years

If I had to pick one it would be Buddy. I don’t like Bogdan inconsistency.

But to me now, the answer is neither. It’s justin James/and or our draft picks or young FAs. We need to be rebuilding, not keeping treadmill players

Agree. If I have to choose, I'd prefer Buddy because he has elite skill. Bogi is better overall but not good enough in anything to use him as some one to build aroud. We are not at position to overpay role players.


Wait, Buddy is consistent?


They are inconsistent for different reasons

With Bogdan I believe it’s motor

Buddy always plays hard but was put in different positions this year by Luke and was coming off Covid in the bubble
SacKingZZZ
RealGM
Posts: 23,992
And1: 1,013
Joined: Feb 19, 2005
Location: "Look at me, Dave, look. Come and touch it, Dave."

Re: Kings General Discussion 2019-2020 

Post#363 » by SacKingZZZ » Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:40 pm

BoogieTime wrote:
Silver Man wrote:
jazanetti wrote:Agree. If I have to choose, I'd prefer Buddy because he has elite skill. Bogi is better overall but not good enough in anything to use him as some one to build aroud. We are not at position to overpay role players.


Wait, Buddy is consistent?


They are inconsistent for different reasons

With Bogdan I believe it’s motor

Buddy always plays hard but was put in different positions this year by Luke and was coming off Covid in the bubble


Exactly. It's hard to be consistent when you are constantly yanked around the rotation and in respect to what you are asked to do. Running the offense from the bench was likely not Buddy's idea. Whoevers idea it was can go away. Problem solved.
User avatar
blind prophet
General Manager
Posts: 8,850
And1: 2,531
Joined: Dec 08, 2011
 

Re: Kings General Discussion 2019-2020 

Post#364 » by blind prophet » Thu Sep 3, 2020 1:00 am

Anyone heard anything with a new GM?
kalenclayton
Analyst
Posts: 3,423
And1: 1,064
Joined: Feb 13, 2014
   

Re: Kings General Discussion 2019-2020 

Post#365 » by kalenclayton » Thu Sep 3, 2020 5:07 pm

blind prophet wrote:Anyone heard anything with a new GM?

It’s been tight lipped. No rumors at all. If they’ve learned anything from Vlade, it’s that it’s good to keep things quiet. Just hopefully we don’t get a rumor that we had a good GM candidate two days ago.
BoogieTime
Analyst
Posts: 3,242
And1: 1,181
Joined: Feb 09, 2017
 

Re: Kings General Discussion 2019-2020 

Post#366 » by BoogieTime » Wed Oct 7, 2020 2:58 am

Alvin Gentry being hired as a assistant? Color me cautious. He's overqualified as an assistant and apparently had other suitors, meaning he might think he has a shot at being head coach here (and IMO he should have no shot at that)
KF10
Forum Mod - Kings
Forum Mod - Kings
Posts: 24,831
And1: 5,129
Joined: Jul 28, 2006
 

Re: Kings General Discussion 2019-2020 

Post#367 » by KF10 » Wed Oct 7, 2020 4:19 am

BoogieTime wrote:Alvin Gentry being hired as a assistant? Color me cautious. He's overqualified as an assistant and apparently had other suitors, meaning he might think he has a shot at being head coach here (and IMO he should have no shot at that)


I agree.

Gentry will be at the top of the list or near it if and when Walton gets fired. Gentry is a fine assistant but a terrible head coach.

One step forward, two steps back imo.
User avatar
codydaze
Forum Mod - Kings
Forum Mod - Kings
Posts: 4,117
And1: 2,893
Joined: Jul 06, 2013
Location: Sacramento, CA
     

Re: Kings General Discussion 2019-2020 

Post#368 » by codydaze » Wed Oct 7, 2020 4:31 pm

Luke and Gentry worked together in Golden State, I don't think there's really anything to look into here. People were saying the same thing about Igor when he got hired.
RipPizzaGuy
RealGM
Posts: 10,232
And1: 6,187
Joined: Sep 17, 2010
     

Re: Kings General Discussion 2019-2020 

Post#369 » by RipPizzaGuy » Wed Oct 7, 2020 8:00 pm

codydaze wrote:Luke and Gentry worked together in Golden State, I don't think there's really anything to look into here. People were saying the same thing about Igor when he got hired.


This. Strong minded move by Luke. Realizing he could use some help, and went out and got a guy hes worked with and had success with.

Gentry should help the Kings have some semblance of a working offense.
SmellingColors
Senior
Posts: 610
And1: 96
Joined: Dec 14, 2010

Re: Kings General Discussion 2019-2020 

Post#370 » by SmellingColors » Wed Oct 7, 2020 9:53 pm

This move does nothing for me either way at this point. I think it ultimately comes down to intentions and execution. If Gentry was hired as Luke's guy as Carmichael Dave is suggesting, then I don't think the intention is to set up a coup.

However, if they do end up firing Luke after this season, then how they execute the following hire could be in jeopardy by hiring someone like Gentry since it will open up the possibility of taking the easy way out (financially) and naming him head coach. That, I'm nervous for.

But there's no way to know either or those yet so, at this point, the only thing I'm focused on is what McNair does with moves/picks.
KF10
Forum Mod - Kings
Forum Mod - Kings
Posts: 24,831
And1: 5,129
Joined: Jul 28, 2006
 

Re: Kings General Discussion 2019-2020 

Post#371 » by KF10 » Wed Oct 7, 2020 10:08 pm

codydaze wrote:Luke and Gentry worked together in Golden State, I don't think there's really anything to look into here. People were saying the same thing about Igor when he got hired.


Both things can be true.

Adding Gentry to the mix will increase synergy between the offensive and defensive schemes of the team. So, in theory, we should see a better system in place next year.

If Walton fails to meet expectations, I see Gentry at the top of the list to manage the Kings.
BoogieTime
Analyst
Posts: 3,242
And1: 1,181
Joined: Feb 09, 2017
 

Re: Kings General Discussion 2019-2020 

Post#372 » by BoogieTime » Wed Oct 7, 2020 11:43 pm

Even if he is Luke’s guy, I’d still think Gentry could believe in his own mind that this is the path to easiest become head coach again
User avatar
blind prophet
General Manager
Posts: 8,850
And1: 2,531
Joined: Dec 08, 2011
 

Re: Kings General Discussion 2019-2020 

Post#373 » by blind prophet » Mon Nov 16, 2020 2:12 am

People are talking about it a little over at Kingsfans.

Read on Twitter
BoogieTime
Analyst
Posts: 3,242
And1: 1,181
Joined: Feb 09, 2017
 

Re: Kings General Discussion 2019-2020 

Post#374 » by BoogieTime » Mon Nov 16, 2020 2:28 am

blind prophet wrote:People are talking about it a little over at Kingsfans.

Read on Twitter


Giles probably won’t be here (which I personally don’t mind).

Is there something wrong with Len?
User avatar
blind prophet
General Manager
Posts: 8,850
And1: 2,531
Joined: Dec 08, 2011
 

Re: Kings General Discussion 2019-2020 

Post#375 » by blind prophet » Mon Nov 16, 2020 2:34 am

BoogieTime wrote:
blind prophet wrote:People are talking about it a little over at Kingsfans.

Read on Twitter


Giles probably won’t be here (which I personally don’t mind).

Is there something wrong with Len?


Nothing I've heard.

I took a look at some of the FA centers, Meyers Leonard can space the floor some, Kosta is rumored to want to come back to the NBA. Otherwise no other thoughts.
User avatar
codydaze
Forum Mod - Kings
Forum Mod - Kings
Posts: 4,117
And1: 2,893
Joined: Jul 06, 2013
Location: Sacramento, CA
     

Re: Kings General Discussion 2019-2020 

Post#376 » by codydaze » Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:24 pm

I'm putting my money on Giles being in a Celtics uniform next season. He's great friends with Tatum and I think he would thrive in Brad Stevens offensive system playing out of the high post.
RipPizzaGuy
RealGM
Posts: 10,232
And1: 6,187
Joined: Sep 17, 2010
     

Re: Kings General Discussion 2019-2020 

Post#377 » by RipPizzaGuy » Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:13 pm

codydaze wrote:I'm putting my money on Giles being in a Celtics uniform next season. He's great friends with Tatum and I think he would thrive in Brad Stevens offensive system playing out of the high post.


Not a bad bet. It would make sense also, the Celtics ran that 3 center platoon last season as well.

Theis - 24mpg
Williams - 13.5mpg
Kanter - 17mpg

That probably goes well with his health. He could probably take Kanters minutes and potentially provide an upgrade.
jazanetti
Junior
Posts: 282
And1: 43
Joined: Apr 13, 2017
     

Re: Kings General Discussion 2019-2020 

Post#378 » by jazanetti » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:33 pm

codydaze wrote:I'm putting my money on Giles being in a Celtics uniform next season. He's great friends with Tatum and I think he would thrive in Brad Stevens offensive system playing out of the high post.

His defence doesn't fit Celtics. Harry is awful rim protector and can't play against wings as well.
He needs a lot of time to learn and become bigger and stronger. Celtics are not at the situation to wait and develop him carefully.
User avatar
codydaze
Forum Mod - Kings
Forum Mod - Kings
Posts: 4,117
And1: 2,893
Joined: Jul 06, 2013
Location: Sacramento, CA
     

Re: Kings General Discussion 2019-2020 

Post#379 » by codydaze » Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:37 pm

jazanetti wrote:
codydaze wrote:I'm putting my money on Giles being in a Celtics uniform next season. He's great friends with Tatum and I think he would thrive in Brad Stevens offensive system playing out of the high post.

His defence doesn't fit Celtics. Harry is awful rim protector and can't play against wings as well.
He needs a lot of time to learn and become bigger and stronger. Celtics are not at the situation to wait and develop him carefully.


He's not any worse than Kanter on defense. I've been seeing they might bring Baynes back too so they'd have a 4 big rotation of Baynes, Theis, Wiliams and Giles to throw out there depending on the situation.

Return to Sacramento Kings