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Cory Joseph 3 years/$37 million

Posted: Mon Jul 1, 2019 7:32 am
by donkeylips
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Re: Cory Joseph 3 years/$37 million

Posted: Mon Jul 1, 2019 7:34 am
by KF10
Yep.

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Re: Cory Joseph 3 years/$37 million

Posted: Mon Jul 1, 2019 7:37 am
by SacKingZZZ
Man, that's an overpay. Upgraded over Yogi so it had to be done.

Re: Cory Joseph 3 years/$37 million

Posted: Mon Jul 1, 2019 7:38 am
by donkeylips
Third year isn’t fully guaranteed.

Re: Cory Joseph 3 years/$37 million

Posted: Mon Jul 1, 2019 7:52 am
by SactoKingsFan
That's seems more than a bit expensive for Joseph. I guess that's the price Kings have to pay for a decent backup.

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Re: Cory Joseph 3 years/$37 million

Posted: Mon Jul 1, 2019 8:08 am
by simonbampfield
Anything less than 4 years and I'm not concerned with what these guys are getting. Even better that the Joseph and Dedmon deals are partials in year 3 and Ariza is basically a 1 year deal.

Re: Cory Joseph 3 years/$37 million

Posted: Mon Jul 1, 2019 10:28 am
by jazanetti
Vlade, please, stop it!

Re: Cory Joseph 3 years/$37 million

Posted: Mon Jul 1, 2019 1:22 pm
by Call Me Geoff
It’s an overpay but I like it. We HAD to address the backup PG position and we did it with one of the best in the league. Joseph is quality. On a 2 yr deal with a partial 3rd yr I’m good. We’ve essentially written off next offseason and opened up 2021 for extending the youngsters. Well played Kings, playoffs are very real. Next year is going to be a good time.

Re: Cory Joseph 3 years/$37 million

Posted: Mon Jul 1, 2019 2:10 pm
by donkeylips
The free agency class isn’t that deep next offseason, so I’m really like what blade has done.

Re: Cory Joseph 3 years/$37 million

Posted: Mon Jul 1, 2019 2:10 pm
by donkeylips
The free agency class isn’t that deep next offseason, so I’m really like what vlade has done.

Re: Cory Joseph 3 years/$37 million

Posted: Mon Jul 1, 2019 2:28 pm
by jazanetti
You have Jogi Ferrel on one year 3 million deal, who gives you 5,9 pts (43-36-89%); 1,9 ast; 0,6 tov off the bench.
Ish Smith got 12/2 deal having 8,9 pts (42-32-75%); 3,6 ast; 1,1 tov last season.
This is the first day of FA market, tons of backup PG are still available, teams are trying to sign key/core players.
How much would you want to pay Cory Joseph (6,5 pts (41-32-70%); 3,9 ast; 1 tov last season)...? 37/3! OMG! Vlade is the worst GM in the league. And he proves it again.

Re: Cory Joseph 3 years/$37 million

Posted: Mon Jul 1, 2019 4:19 pm
by codydaze
This is a good move, really happy with it! Cory Joseph is a strong defender at the point guard position, he rounds out the bench real nicely. Extra props to getting that third partially guaranteed, future flexibility still intact.

Joseph/Bogdanovic/Ariza/Bjelica/Giles

Re: Cory Joseph 3 years/$37 million

Posted: Mon Jul 1, 2019 4:24 pm
by codydaze
jazanetti wrote:You have Jogi Ferrel on one year 3 million deal, who gives you 5,9 pts (43-36-89%); 1,9 ast; 0,6 tov off the bench.
Ish Smith got 12/2 deal having 8,9 pts (42-32-75%); 3,6 ast; 1,1 tov last season.
This is the first day of FA market, tons of backup PG are still available, teams are trying to sign key/core players.
How much would you want to pay Cory Joseph (6,5 pts (41-32-70%); 3,9 ast; 1 tov last season)...? 37/3! OMG! Vlade is the worst GM in the league. And he proves it again.


Cory Joseph:
DWS: 2.9
DBPM: 1.4
Stl/G: 1.1

Yogi Ferrell:
DWS: 0.6
DBPM: -1.8
Stl/G: 0.5

Ish Smith:
DWS: 1.1
DBPM: -1.1
Stl/G: 0.5

Cory Joseph is easily the best defender of the bunch, that's what we were looking for behind Fox. Yogi and Ish might be slightly better scorers but it doesn't matter when they are giving up more on defense than they provide on offense.

Re: Cory Joseph 3 years/$37 million

Posted: Mon Jul 1, 2019 5:11 pm
by bleeds_purple
A bit of an overpay but nothing crazy. He's a solid, middle-of-the-road backup and rounds out the roster.

Re: Cory Joseph 3 years/$37 million

Posted: Mon Jul 1, 2019 6:13 pm
by benchmobbin02
codydaze wrote:This is a good move, really happy with it! Cory Joseph is a strong defender at the point guard position, he rounds out the bench real nicely. Extra props to getting that third partially guaranteed, future flexibility still intact.

Joseph/Bogdanovic/Ariza/Bjelica/Giles


Yeah, nice balance for the second unit with defense Joseph and Ariza, playmaking with Bogi and Giles and shooting with Bogi, Ariza and Bjel. If we are gonna surprise and over achieve again we'll need Giles to come in healthy and ready to be 20min guy with a positive +/- and WS%. No wonder they kept him out of summer league. I wonder how Swanigan is looking?

Re: Cory Joseph 3 years/$37 million

Posted: Mon Jul 1, 2019 7:07 pm
by jazanetti
codydaze wrote:
jazanetti wrote:You have Jogi Ferrel on one year 3 million deal, who gives you 5,9 pts (43-36-89%); 1,9 ast; 0,6 tov off the bench.
Ish Smith got 12/2 deal having 8,9 pts (42-32-75%); 3,6 ast; 1,1 tov last season.
This is the first day of FA market, tons of backup PG are still available, teams are trying to sign key/core players.
How much would you want to pay Cory Joseph (6,5 pts (41-32-70%); 3,9 ast; 1 tov last season)...? 37/3! OMG! Vlade is the worst GM in the league. And he proves it again.


Cory Joseph:
DWS: 2.9
DBPM: 1.4
Stl/G: 1.1

Yogi Ferrell:
DWS: 0.6
DBPM: -1.8
Stl/G: 0.5

Ish Smith:
DWS: 1.1
DBPM: -1.1
Stl/G: 0.5

Cory Joseph is easily the best defender of the bunch, that's what we were looking for behind Fox. Yogi and Ish might be slightly better scorers but it doesn't matter when they are giving up more on defense than they provide on offense.

Cory played in the team with the slowest pace. Don't overrate his defensive numbers.

Re: Cory Joseph 3 years/$37 million

Posted: Mon Jul 1, 2019 7:33 pm
by OGSactownballer
jazanetti wrote:
codydaze wrote:
jazanetti wrote:You have Jogi Ferrel on one year 3 million deal, who gives you 5,9 pts (43-36-89%); 1,9 ast; 0,6 tov off the bench.
Ish Smith got 12/2 deal having 8,9 pts (42-32-75%); 3,6 ast; 1,1 tov last season.
This is the first day of FA market, tons of backup PG are still available, teams are trying to sign key/core players.
How much would you want to pay Cory Joseph (6,5 pts (41-32-70%); 3,9 ast; 1 tov last season)...? 37/3! OMG! Vlade is the worst GM in the league. And he proves it again.


Cory Joseph:
DWS: 2.9
DBPM: 1.4
Stl/G: 1.1

Yogi Ferrell:
DWS: 0.6
DBPM: -1.8
Stl/G: 0.5

Ish Smith:
DWS: 1.1
DBPM: -1.1
Stl/G: 0.5

Cory Joseph is easily the best defender of the bunch, that's what we were looking for behind Fox. Yogi and Ish might be slightly better scorers but it doesn't matter when they are giving up more on defense than they provide on offense.

Cory played in the team with the slowest pace. Don't overrate his defensive numbers.


What guys like you never get is thatnits not all about the raw numbers for everything.

The intangibles are usually far more important when you are trying to fit in an appropriate role player with your stars. And that’s what he is here for.
How is this guy’s attitude? Where did he “grow up” in the NBA? How does he handle playing a role? Can he spot start if needed? Is he a good locker room guy? Does he have playoff/title team experience and pedigree?

CJ grew up with the Spurs and Pacers two of the NBA’s classiest and constantly premiere organizations. He fills the need of a decent size defensive b/u veteran PG who can run the second team and free up Bogie and Ariza to be scorers.

Re: Cory Joseph 3 years/$37 million

Posted: Mon Jul 1, 2019 7:46 pm
by codydaze
jazanetti wrote:
codydaze wrote:
jazanetti wrote:You have Jogi Ferrel on one year 3 million deal, who gives you 5,9 pts (43-36-89%); 1,9 ast; 0,6 tov off the bench.
Ish Smith got 12/2 deal having 8,9 pts (42-32-75%); 3,6 ast; 1,1 tov last season.
This is the first day of FA market, tons of backup PG are still available, teams are trying to sign key/core players.
How much would you want to pay Cory Joseph (6,5 pts (41-32-70%); 3,9 ast; 1 tov last season)...? 37/3! OMG! Vlade is the worst GM in the league. And he proves it again.


Cory Joseph:
DWS: 2.9
DBPM: 1.4
Stl/G: 1.1

Yogi Ferrell:
DWS: 0.6
DBPM: -1.8
Stl/G: 0.5

Ish Smith:
DWS: 1.1
DBPM: -1.1
Stl/G: 0.5

Cory Joseph is easily the best defender of the bunch, that's what we were looking for behind Fox. Yogi and Ish might be slightly better scorers but it doesn't matter when they are giving up more on defense than they provide on offense.

Cory played in the team with the slowest pace. Don't overrate his defensive numbers.


None of those numbers really have anything to do with pace. If anything, higher pace = more possessions = more opportunities for steals so having more steals in a lower pace would be a good thing.