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benchmobbin02 wrote:In the Cory Joesph thread I wondered if we were done in the frontcout meaning we were secure in Giles and Swanigan as key contributors. This seemingly answers that. I wouldn't be surprised if it comes out later that Giles had a setback or something.

Like other have said he really fits how we want to play just like Dedmon and is a value signing. I think he'll get alot of minutes as an athletic big.

benchmobbin02 wrote:In the Cory Joesph thread I wondered if we were done in the frontcout meaning we were secure in Giles and Swanigan as key contributors. This seemingly answers that. I wouldn't be surprised if it comes out later that Giles had a setback or something.

Like other have said he really fits how we want to play just like Dedmon and is a value signing. I think he'll get alot of minutes as an athletic big.

codydaze wrote:I imagine Holmes will be a guy that gets minutes when our bigs get into foul trouble or we just need a energy boost/someone to bang with the Montrezl's and Randle's of the world. I still see Giles as the 4th big in the rotation.

bleeds_purple wrote:

codydaze wrote:I imagine Holmes will be a guy that gets minutes when our bigs get into foul trouble or we just need a energy boost/someone to bang with the Montrezl's and Randle's of the world. I still see Giles as the 4th big in the rotation.

Yeah. Plus you know Dedmon and Giles are gonna miss at least 20 games each. A good third string C is important.

becorz wrote:Any word on if the second year is guaranteed?

codydaze wrote:I imagine Holmes will be a guy that gets minutes when our bigs get into foul trouble or we just need a energy boost/someone to bang with the Montrezl's and Randle's of the world. I still see Giles as the 4th big in the rotation.

RipPizzaGuy wrote:

codydaze wrote:I imagine Holmes will be a guy that gets minutes when our bigs get into foul trouble or we just need a energy boost/someone to bang with the Montrezl's and Randle's of the world. I still see Giles as the 4th big in the rotation.

To be honest, I see Giles as the 3rd big in the rotation. I think he gets more burn this year than Bjelica. He fits really well next to either Dedmon or Bagley (who we've seen have a strong connection). I wouldn't mind Holmes getting some minutes over Bjelica as well.

codydaze wrote:

RipPizzaGuy wrote:

codydaze wrote:I imagine Holmes will be a guy that gets minutes when our bigs get into foul trouble or we just need a energy boost/someone to bang with the Montrezl's and Randle's of the world. I still see Giles as the 4th big in the rotation.

To be honest, I see Giles as the 3rd big in the rotation. I think he gets more burn this year than Bjelica. He fits really well next to either Dedmon or Bagley (who we've seen have a strong connection). I wouldn't mind Holmes getting some minutes over Bjelica as well.

The great thing about having all 5 of these guys is there is pretty much no mismatches for us. The rotation can be flexible and versatile enough to match up with any front court in the league.

RipPizzaGuy wrote:

codydaze wrote:

RipPizzaGuy wrote:
To be honest, I see Giles as the 3rd big in the rotation. I think he gets more burn this year than Bjelica. He fits really well next to either Dedmon or Bagley (who we've seen have a strong connection). I wouldn't mind Holmes getting some minutes over Bjelica as well.

The great thing about having all 5 of these guys is there is pretty much no mismatches for us. The rotation can be flexible and versatile enough to match up with any front court in the league.

Absolutely. I see this as Marvin, Bagley, & Giles are all safe. But there will be games where teams are head hunting Bjelica and he just can't stay on the court. In those situations, Holmes plays over him.

Either way, as of right now I'm very happy. I just want to be sure that Giles is getting his burn. IMO hes the 4th most important piece to our progress.

codydaze wrote:

becorz wrote:Any word on if the second year is guaranteed?

It's a room exception deal so I believe it is. Not sure whether or not you can add partial guarantees on those deals.

ROOM MID-LEVEL EXCEPTION -- This exception is available only to teams that drop far enough below the cap to use cap room, and therefore lose their Bi-Annual, Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level and Taxpayer Mid-Level exceptions (see question number 26). This exception cannot be used if the team already has used the Bi-Annual, Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level or Taxpayer Mid-Level exception. This exception becomes available once the team salary drops far enough that the team loses its other exceptions, and expires following the last day of the regular season. It allows a team to sign any free agent to a contract with a starting salary up to the following:

Season First-year salary
2017-18 $4.328 million
2018-19 $4.449 million
2019-20 $4.767 million
The Room Mid-Level exception amount for the 2017-18 season was negotiated into the agreement. For each subsequent season the exception amount is determined by applying the percentage change in the salary cap to the previous exception amount. For example, if the salary cap increases by 4% from 2017-18 to 2018-19, then the exception amount also will increase by 4% from 2017-18 to 2018-19.

This exception may be split and given to multiple players. It may be used for contracts up to two years in length, with raises up to 5% of the salary in the first year of the contract. Signing a player to a multi-year contract does not affect a team's ability to use this exception every year -- for example, a team can use this exception to sign a player to a two-year contract, and use it again the following year to sign another player. Also see question number 26 for more information on the availability and use of this exception.

Once a team has used this exception, it can no longer use the Bi-Annual, Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level or Taxpayer Mid-Level exception.