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Post#61 » by BoogieTime » Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:03 pm

OhioKingsFan wrote:Give me Saddiq Bey at #12! I know draft twitter guys are low on him because of a perceived "low ceiling" and mediocre explosiveness, but I'd be thrilled to get a player at #12 that is very likely to be a long-term key rotation player. I see him as a Robert Covington type player: he's a 6'8 guy that hits 3's at an elite level and he's a smart and effective defender. He's not the sort of player that will be an engine of a team's offense, but darn it, I think he's the sort of player that every team wishes they had.

Smart cuts, smart off-ball movements with an emphasis on creating open 3's, smart defense (he's pretty good about rotations, making it hard for his man, etc.). He never looks lost on offense or defense, who cares if he's not going to blow by a defender and explode to the hoop? Fox and Bagley are supposed to play those roles, and a player like Saddiq seems like a great complimentary fit.

I hear a lot of people say that they they'd pass on Saddiq because they don't see him as being anything other than a role player. Every team needs the right role players.

Sign me up for the Saddiq Bey fit over the potential of Poku or Patrick Williams... both of those guys have way too much bust potential IMO. The "ceiling" might be higher, but the "floor" is so, so bad.


You can get role players in free agency or trade, though. You can acquire other players to fill 80% of their roles. Role players often lead to treadmills, and they are difficult to contract because solid ones get paid.

But that’s just personal opinion, I think a lot of fans feel like you do
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Post#62 » by KF10 » Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:10 pm

I'm in the state of mind you have to choose BPA with the #12. I don't think Bey is BPA at #12, imo.

At #12, you want a player that has NBA-ready now skills with decent amount of room for growth in the future.

The only time you look for potential > BPA is when the BPA player is a meh prospect and you roll the dice with the potential player instead. In this draft, we may see teams go in this route.

I hope McNair has his draft data and insight ready by the time the Kings draft.
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Post#63 » by Roddy B for 3 » Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:49 am

The King's are on the clock in the NBA draft forum. We'd really appreciate getting some Kings fans input. Thanks in advance.
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Post#64 » by City of Trees » Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:39 pm

Roddy B for 3 wrote:The King's are on the clock in the NBA draft forum. We'd really appreciate getting some Kings fans input. Thanks in advance.
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Post#65 » by codydaze » Thu Sep 24, 2020 6:43 pm

Poku is leading the poll in that thread now but I don't know about him. His frame is very narrow so you have to question how much upper body strength he can put on. His jumpshot also seems to start pretty low, it's not a push shot but the ball looks to start around chest level so I think that would need to get cleaned up at the next level. Looks like a huge project, could possibly be a good player down the line since it looks like he has some natural playmaking instincts and can pass the ball but I'm not taking him at 12.
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Post#66 » by KF10 » Thu Sep 24, 2020 6:52 pm

I chose Bey and Nesmith.

Poku would be a good choice if the Kings have another mid-1st.
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Post#67 » by SmellingColors » Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:04 pm

I chose Bey and would be okay with Nesmith, but I also think Poku is a risk I'd be willing to take based on interviews and his mindset. Is he a killer and hardworker? Or does he coast on his size and skill in a weaker league?

After missing on Doncic, I'm of the opinion that we need to take risks on potentially special players. Which is why I would look at Patrick Williams if he's there too. Especially with the success the Stockton staff has had with development of their players, we need to find someone nobody else has.

Still, at 12 that seems like a reach.
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Post#68 » by codydaze » Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:50 pm

SmellingColors wrote:I chose Bey and would be okay with Nesmith, but I also think Poku is a risk I'd be willing to take based on interviews and his mindset. Is he a killer and hardworker? Or does he coast on his size and skill in a weaker league?

After missing on Doncic, I'm of the opinion that we need to take risks on potentially special players. Which is why I would look at Patrick Williams if he's there too. Especially with the success the Stockton staff has had with development of their players, we need to find someone nobody else has.

Still, at 12 that seems like a reach.


Patrick Williams is the guy I'm hoping for the most. He's my #1 choice for us at 12.
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Post#70 » by SmellingColors » Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:40 pm

codydaze wrote:
SmellingColors wrote:I chose Bey and would be okay with Nesmith, but I also think Poku is a risk I'd be willing to take based on interviews and his mindset. Is he a killer and hardworker? Or does he coast on his size and skill in a weaker league?

After missing on Doncic, I'm of the opinion that we need to take risks on potentially special players. Which is why I would look at Patrick Williams if he's there too. Especially with the success the Stockton staff has had with development of their players, we need to find someone nobody else has.

Still, at 12 that seems like a reach.


Patrick Williams is the guy I'm hoping for the most. He's my #1 choice for us at 12.


Me too. The Real GM draft board had him gone at 11 to the Spurs. I could see him even rising even a little further than that just based on his upside and size (though don't know who to - ATL, NYK, PHX?), but if he falls he's definitely my pick too.
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Post#71 » by nolang1 » Thu Oct 1, 2020 9:38 pm

codydaze wrote:Poku is leading the poll in that thread now but I don't know about him. His frame is very narrow so you have to question how much upper body strength he can put on. His jumpshot also seems to start pretty low, it's not a push shot but the ball looks to start around chest level so I think that would need to get cleaned up at the next level. Looks like a huge project, could possibly be a good player down the line since it looks like he has some natural playmaking instincts and can pass the ball but I'm not taking him at 12.


I'd be totally fine with Pokusevski at 12. I think if we were to look back on quite a lot of NBA players at age 17 (which is how old he was in most of the footage of him) we'd do a double-take at how much skinnier they were back then. He really doesn't need to gain that much weight when you consider how well he blocks shots and rebounds already; like sure NBA players are stronger on average but that's not as big as the difference between a 17-year-old and a 25-year-old Pokusevski.
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Post#72 » by codydaze » Fri Oct 2, 2020 4:03 pm

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codydaze wrote:Poku is leading the poll in that thread now but I don't know about him. His frame is very narrow so you have to question how much upper body strength he can put on. His jumpshot also seems to start pretty low, it's not a push shot but the ball looks to start around chest level so I think that would need to get cleaned up at the next level. Looks like a huge project, could possibly be a good player down the line since it looks like he has some natural playmaking instincts and can pass the ball but I'm not taking him at 12.


I'd be totally fine with Pokusevski at 12. I think if we were to look back on quite a lot of NBA players at age 17 (which is how old he was in most of the footage of him) we'd do a double-take at how much skinnier they were back then. He really doesn't need to gain that much weight when you consider how well he blocks shots and rebounds already; like sure NBA players are stronger on average but that's not as big as the difference between a 17-year-old and a 25-year-old Pokusevski.


I don't know, I just don't personally see it with him. I would take a flyer on him late in the first round, for sure in the early second but I wouldn't take him in the lottery.
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Post#73 » by BoogieTime » Fri Oct 2, 2020 9:21 pm

IMO he’s going to be a mid first round pick or higher because he has one of the highest ceilings in the draft IMO. CBS recent mock has us taking him at 12. Not only is his floor game (handling/vision) freakish for his height/age, but he’s shown defensive disruption in Europe with his length/instincts. He’s just an usual specimen

I understand those who want a higher floor though at 12, certainly. Id give Poku among others some thought as I’ve become more “process” oriented where I look at potential more than others as the league revolves around top tier talent. But I also like a few other players in our vicinity that have a higher floor than Poku and also have appreciable upside, who I might choose over Poku

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