It's even worse than I expected.

KF10 wrote:Pretty much confirms my suspicions about how bad of a blunder this was. Like I needed any more confirmation tho lol
But one thing I disagree with Dave was his continued lip service to Bagley. He keeps saying “it’s not Bagley’s fault…” why defend Bagley at all?
Bagley looks completely the same player since his rookie season but sprinkle in some slight improvements here and there. I have zero sympathy for this guy at this point.
Lost in LA wrote:KF10 wrote:Pretty much confirms my suspicions about how bad of a blunder this was. Like I needed any more confirmation tho lol
But one thing I disagree with Dave was his continued lip service to Bagley. He keeps saying “it’s not Bagley’s fault…” why defend Bagley at all?
Bagley looks completely the same player since his rookie season but sprinkle in some slight improvements here and there. I have zero sympathy for this guy at this point.
That does not excuse the original decision though, which was mind numbingly stupid. Doncic was NBA ready in a way that even Fox wasn't.
ICMTM wrote:Carmichael Dave has flip flopped on both Doncic and Bagley enough on air to throw a middle finger at his brodcast.
His sidekick J-Marz is a troll.
If you watch all 82 games as a fan (like most RealGM people did when I posted the most) you really know that Carmichael Dave isn't keepin' it real like he was when he got canned the 1st time.
Lucky for the few of you reading I have literally told Carmichael Dave the Kings need to off 2 of the 3 of Buddy, Bogi, Barnes. We are not complete here. Since we have retooled if the Kings bring back Harkless and Davis either of them can get the stepping. Otherwise bringing back Davis is within the Orgs control so Buddy gets to walk the plank.
Luka Doncic has had two 1st round exits on a team that looks no closer to championship aspirations than the Kings. His team is 3-10 against the same rebuilding Kings for his career.
Again Middle Finger to Carmichael Dave! The idea is to build a title contender not a "ooops you could have built a 1st round exit team" if we go back on the picks.
Listen to better media.
blind prophet wrote:https://overcast.fm/+H8ke6LDsQ/21:58
It's even worse than I expected.
ICMTM wrote:I am not mad we passed on Luka Doncic
BoogieTime wrote:ICMTM wrote:I am not mad we passed on Luka Doncic
reason being?
ICMTM wrote:BoogieTime wrote:ICMTM wrote:I am not mad we passed on Luka Doncic
reason being?
Reason I am not mad? Simple. He hasn't won anything of real significance. It seems like when the Clips decide to play against the Mavs they win.
We have had a ROY here before. It didn't lead to much.
It's been a long time, but we were 2-2 against the Spurs and lost that series in the 1st round. That series really pointed out we weren't an elite team anymore. I don't aspire to be a 1st round and exit player.
Ayton - Got to a final. He wasn't the guy, but he's been there.
Young - Got to a conference final.
Mitchell, Antetokoumpo...guys we also passed on who are very good! They have had more team success as well (yes in the league longer).
So if we are crying about who we missed as a function of making the team better (vs who you are a fan of) his resume says he isn't yet that guy.
I also feel a healthy run with an adequate bench for the current core will get us in the post season.
ICMTM wrote:BoogieTime wrote:ICMTM wrote:I am not mad we passed on Luka Doncic
reason being?
Reason I am not mad? Simple. He hasn't won anything of real significance. It seems like when the Clips decide to play against the Mavs they win.
We have had a ROY here before. It didn't lead to much.
It's been a long time, but we were 2-2 against the Spurs and lost that series in the 1st round. That series really pointed out we weren't an elite team anymore. I don't aspire to be a 1st round and exit player.
Ayton - Got to a final. He wasn't the guy, but he's been there.
Young - Got to a conference final.
Mitchell, Antetokoumpo...guys we also passed on who are very good! They have had more team success as well (yes in the league longer).
So if we are crying about who we missed as a function of making the team better (vs who you are a fan of) his resume says he isn't yet that guy.
I also feel a healthy run with an adequate bench for the current core will get us in the post season.
OGSactownballer wrote:I know that this will not be a popular opinion.
The book is not even close to being written in Bahleybyet either.
Marvin is a textbook wxamplenofnwhyninrhink it is incredibly stupid to draft bigs under 21/22 years old.
Men are not close to maturing and filling out until they are 24 - 26 years old and their metabolism phases into maturity.
Marvin’s injuries - as I have pointed out to agreement in both local radio shows - are all based in impacts. Ultimately what this tells me is he is simply being played out of position as a Center because he has not yet matured enough and filled out to handle playing against Men who are heavier, stronger and more mature than he is physically.
JJJ in Memphis and Richaun right here have similar issues with their injuries. They are being asked to play in positions that their bodies are not built to handle. The centers in the West are huge. In little wonder that these guys cannot stay clear of impact injuries.
If the fences can be mended here there is a better than equal chance - given his natural talent - that Marvin can still become a high quality POWER FORWARD for us and the positive of his rough career start (he’s not the first of his type by far) might reward our patience by getting him much cheaper than if he had shown a great deal of potential over a larger and healthier game sample.