THE Off-Season Thread 2022-23

LightTheBeam · Post #1 » by **LightTheBeam** » Tue Mar 1, 2022 9:58 pm

Fox/Barnes/Sabonis feel established as 3 of the teams starters. Team needs Mitchell/DDV to be a strength as the backup guards. They should be outplaying opposing benches. Holiday/Lyles/Jones rounding out the bench. Meaning we need to add 2 starters this offseason using Holmes/expirings/#6/MLE. That may end up being MLE + #6. Or it could be a few trades.

Biggest needs - Defense, Shooting, 1 more guy who can create for himself

I keep going back to Covington using the MLE. Small sample size (9 games), but outside Portland hes raised his shooting percentage from 38 ---> 46%. Hes always been a good defender which is something we desperately need. I know Kyle Anderson is another option here.

I would mortgage the future for Donovan Mitchell, but I can't imagine Utah ends up moving him. I would absolutely love to find a way to grab Josh Hart from Portland, hes surely not worth our 1st or a future 1st. Also not sure Portland won't just keep him as hes averaging 19-5-4 since arriving there.

What do you guys want to see this summer?

jeffjtk1234 · Post #2 » by **jeffjtk1234** » Thu Mar 3, 2022 2:45 am

It’s not too early the season is over

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blind prophet · Post #3 » by **blind prophet** » Thu Mar 3, 2022 4:37 am

I think it is a given we should move Holmes. Not sure if that's on draft night or in FA however. You know we will win meaningless games and end up picking like 8-9 by the end of the year.

I guess the best direction to go would be to move Holmes first. Get a good rotation SF or PF. Could be a 3&D SF or a stretch 4. Doesn't matter which one if we are keeping Barnes and expect to resign him eventually.

Only move the pick if we get back something really good, otherwise hopefully we draft well. By good they have to be an above average starter on a reasonable contract.

Depending on who that is would be time to see if Covington should come on board.

LightTheBeam · Post #4 » by **LightTheBeam** » Thu Mar 3, 2022 4:56 pm

blind prophet wrote:I think it is a given we should move Holmes. Not sure if that's on draft night or in FA however. You know we will win meaningless games and end up picking like 8-9 by the end of the year.

I guess the best direction to go would be to move Holmes first. Get a good rotation SF or PF. Could be a 3&D SF or a stretch 4. Doesn't matter which one if we are keeping Barnes and expect to resign him eventually.

Only move the pick if we get back something really good, otherwise hopefully we draft well. By good they have to be an above average starter on a reasonable contract.

Depending on who that is would be time to see if Covington should come on board.

I'm not so sure about those meaningless games to be honest. The Wizards and Spurs aren't tanking, so I think its going to be hard for them to catch us. Portland/NY are tanking so they would be the closest to catch us but we are 4 losses ahead of each of them.

We have 18 games left. Mavs, Denver, Utah, Chicago, Boston, Milwaukee, PHX (2), Heat, GS, LAC - These should all be losses. 2 of those games are vs SA and the Pelicans who are going to be competing for the play-in. 2 of the games are back to backs against Houston, and we never win back to backs against the same team. Indiana isn't a gimme either. Now we could win a few of those losses, but knowing the Kings they will equally blow some of the games they should win.

I wouldn't be surprised to see this team finish 5-13 or 6-12 at best. Meaning it would take an absolute meltdown by NY or Portland (literally like 1-2 wins) to close out the season. Looking at the Blazers schedule, I'm hopeful they win more than that.

Now about the pick, I agree. Unless we can get someone like Siakam/Donovan Mitchell, id prefer we keep it. If we trade it for someone like Collins or Grant, I'm going to be very disappointed.

LightTheBeam · Post #5 » by **LightTheBeam** » Thu Mar 3, 2022 5:04 pm

Wonder if using MLE + Holmes + 2nds we could get Covington + KCP. Then use #6 on the best available player (ideally a forward).

Sabonis/Jones
Covington/#6/Lyles
Barnes/Holiday
KCP/DDV/Davis
Fox/Mitchell

This adds veteran shooting and defense to the starting lineup. Within a few months #6 moves into the starting lineup, and Covington goes to the bench.

rpa · Post #6 » by **rpa** » Fri Mar 4, 2022 1:53 am

I feel like I say this almost every year, but I really hope the Kings move up in the lottery because this draft looks exceedingly top heavy.

Chet would look amazing on this team and cover so many holes.
Jabari would could turn this team into an offensive juggernaut.

after that I think it's pretty questionable.

- Ivey doesn't fit well on this team and his 3pt shooting (from earlier in the season) looks like it was a mirage.
- Paolo scares the absolute **** out of me if I'm being honest. Like... he looks OK, but I don't see anything that really stands out to me as being clear allstar level. Also feel like the fact that his primary attribute is "shot creator" doesn't mesh too well on this team.

After that it's a bunch of guards mostly. Griffin, Sharpe (probably), Davis, Mathurin, etc.

I kind of like Eason. Little old, but looks like he can be a solid, high end role player: good shooter, lots of stocks and rebounds.

Either way, not a great draft fit wise for the Kings. Very few SFs (again) and not a lot of attractive bigs either (for this team at least).

LightTheBeam · Post #7 » by **LightTheBeam** » Fri Mar 4, 2022 2:51 am

rpa wrote:I feel like I say this almost every year, but I really hope the Kings move up in the lottery because this draft looks exceedingly top heavy.

Chet would look amazing on this team and cover so many holes.
Jabari would could turn this team into an offensive juggernaut.

after that I think it's pretty questionable.

- Ivey doesn't fit well on this team and his 3pt shooting (from earlier in the season) looks like it was a mirage.
- Paolo scares the absolute **** out of me if I'm being honest. Like... he looks OK, but I don't see anything that really stands out to me as being clear allstar level. Also feel like the fact that his primary attribute is "shot creator" doesn't mesh too well on this team.

After that it's a bunch of guards mostly. Griffin, Sharpe (probably), Davis, Mathurin, etc.

I kind of like Eason. Little old, but looks like he can be a solid, high end role player: good shooter, lots of stocks and rebounds.

Either way, not a great draft fit wise for the Kings. Very few SFs (again) and not a lot of attractive bigs either (for this team at least).

From what I read, Chet would be an insane fit next to Sabonis. Willing passer, elite shotblocker, good 3pt shooter. They went to the same school?? Can you create a better fit. Please NBA bless us this once.

LightTheBeam · Post #8 » by **LightTheBeam** » Tue Mar 8, 2022 5:00 am

Dipo came back tonight. Nice history of him and Sabonis. He hasnt really been healthy in 4 years but there was a time he was talked about as a top 5 shooting guard.

Id consider a short contract with him as a nice high risk/high reward. Maybe someone will pay him more or he will continue to ring chase, but we could offer him a massive role when healthy.

blind prophet · Post #9 » by **blind prophet** » Sun Apr 3, 2022 12:47 am

RipPizzaGuy wrote:
blind prophet wrote:I think it is a given we should move Holmes. Not sure if that's on draft night or in FA however. You know we will win meaningless games and end up picking like 8-9 by the end of the year.

I guess the best direction to go would be to move Holmes first. Get a good rotation SF or PF. Could be a 3&D SF or a stretch 4. Doesn't matter which one if we are keeping Barnes and expect to resign him eventually.

Only move the pick if we get back something really good, otherwise hopefully we draft well. By good they have to be an above average starter on a reasonable contract.

Depending on who that is would be time to see if Covington should come on board.

I'm not so sure about those meaningless games to be honest. The Wizards and Spurs aren't tanking, so I think its going to be hard for them to catch us. Portland/NY are tanking so they would be the closest to catch us but we are 4 losses ahead of each of them.

We have 18 games left. Mavs, Denver, Utah, Chicago, Boston, Milwaukee, PHX (2), Heat, GS, LAC - These should all be losses. 2 of those games are vs SA and the Pelicans who are going to be competing for the play-in. 2 of the games are back to backs against Houston, and we never win back to backs against the same team. Indiana isn't a gimme either. Now we could win a few of those losses, but knowing the Kings they will equally blow some of the games they should win.

I wouldn't be surprised to see this team finish 5-13 or 6-12 at best. Meaning it would take an absolute meltdown by NY or Portland (literally like 1-2 wins) to close out the season. Looking at the Blazers schedule, I'm hopeful they win more than that.

Now about the pick, I agree. Unless we can get someone like Siakam/Donovan Mitchell, id prefer we keep it. If we trade it for someone like Collins or Grant, I'm going to be very disappointed.

Watch us get the 8th pick now. Probably get jumped in the lotto as well. End up picking 9th.

:banghead:

LightTheBeam · Post #10 » by **LightTheBeam** » Sun Apr 3, 2022 1:15 am

blind prophet wrote:
RipPizzaGuy wrote:
blind prophet wrote:I think it is a given we should move Holmes. Not sure if that's on draft night or in FA however. You know we will win meaningless games and end up picking like 8-9 by the end of the year.

I guess the best direction to go would be to move Holmes first. Get a good rotation SF or PF. Could be a 3&D SF or a stretch 4. Doesn't matter which one if we are keeping Barnes and expect to resign him eventually.

Only move the pick if we get back something really good, otherwise hopefully we draft well. By good they have to be an above average starter on a reasonable contract.

Depending on who that is would be time to see if Covington should come on board.

I'm not so sure about those meaningless games to be honest. The Wizards and Spurs aren't tanking, so I think its going to be hard for them to catch us. Portland/NY are tanking so they would be the closest to catch us but we are 4 losses ahead of each of them.

We have 18 games left. Mavs, Denver, Utah, Chicago, Boston, Milwaukee, PHX (2), Heat, GS, LAC - These should all be losses. 2 of those games are vs SA and the Pelicans who are going to be competing for the play-in. 2 of the games are back to backs against Houston, and we never win back to backs against the same team. Indiana isn't a gimme either. Now we could win a few of those losses, but knowing the Kings they will equally blow some of the games they should win.

I wouldn't be surprised to see this team finish 5-13 or 6-12 at best. Meaning it would take an absolute meltdown by NY or Portland (literally like 1-2 wins) to close out the season. Looking at the Blazers schedule, I'm hopeful they win more than that.

Now about the pick, I agree. Unless we can get someone like Siakam/Donovan Mitchell, id prefer we keep it. If we trade it for someone like Collins or Grant, I'm going to be very disappointed.

Watch us get the 8th pick now. Probably get jumped in the lotto as well. End up picking 9th.

I think we're pretty locked into 7 (at least I hope).

Only risk are the Lakers. But our closeout schedule is rough thankfully. Warriors, pelicans, clippers, suns. Hopefully 4 losses.

If we stay at 7 I'm praying griffin falls to us. I've seen him projected 5-8 so it's not out of the question

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Post #11 » by **City of Trees** » Tue Apr 5, 2022 5:52 am

Jabari Smith is my #1 prospect in the draft and just so happens to fit perfectly with Sabonis. *Fingers crossed*

LightTheBeam · Post #12 » by **LightTheBeam** » Wed Apr 6, 2022 3:30 pm

City of Trees wrote:Jabari Smith is my #1 prospect in the draft and just so happens to fit perfectly with Sabonis. *Fingers crossed*

I didn't watch enough of him. Uncle watches a ton of college, compared him to a younger Wiggins with more size.

So far I've been on the Chet train if we jump, and Griffin if we don't.

blind prophet · Post #13 » by **blind prophet** » Sat Apr 9, 2022 5:21 pm

With he Lakers loss looks like we are locked in at 7 pre lotto now.

Post #14 » by **codydaze** » Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:22 pm

RipPizzaGuy wrote:
City of Trees wrote:Jabari Smith is my #1 prospect in the draft and just so happens to fit perfectly with Sabonis. *Fingers crossed*

I didn't watch enough of him. Uncle watches a ton of college, compared him to a younger Wiggins with more size.

So far I've been on the Chet train if we jump, and Griffin if we don't.

Jabari is a much better shooter and a lot more versatile than Wiggins. Rashard Lewis is pretty much the comp for him I think with lots of potential though.

LightTheBeam · Post #15 » by **LightTheBeam** » Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:11 pm

codydaze wrote:
RipPizzaGuy wrote:
City of Trees wrote:Jabari Smith is my #1 prospect in the draft and just so happens to fit perfectly with Sabonis. *Fingers crossed*

I didn't watch enough of him. Uncle watches a ton of college, compared him to a younger Wiggins with more size.

So far I've been on the Chet train if we jump, and Griffin if we don't.

Jabari is a much better shooter and a lot more versatile than Wiggins. Rashard Lewis is pretty much the comp for him I think with lots of potential though.

Makes sense. How is his defense?

I think obviously a 6'10 shooter who can create for himself would be huge for this team.

I'm planning unfortunately like we will be picking 7-9, so I doubt its realistic. But honestly I've sold myself a bit on Mathurin, Murray, or Griffin all being good fits.

Knowing our luck we get kicked down to 8, those 3 go 5-7 and we are drafting another PG in TyTy

Post #16 » by **codydaze** » Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:26 pm

RipPizzaGuy wrote:
codydaze wrote:
RipPizzaGuy wrote:
I didn't watch enough of him. Uncle watches a ton of college, compared him to a younger Wiggins with more size.

So far I've been on the Chet train if we jump, and Griffin if we don't.

Jabari is a much better shooter and a lot more versatile than Wiggins. Rashard Lewis is pretty much the comp for him I think with lots of potential though.

Makes sense. How is his defense?

I think obviously a 6'10 shooter who can create for himself would be huge for this team.

I'm planning unfortunately like we will be picking 7-9, so I doubt its realistic. But honestly I've sold myself a bit on Mathurin, Murray, or Griffin all being good fits.

Knowing our luck we get kicked down to 8, those 3 go 5-7 and we are drafting another PG in TyTy

He's not elite on that end but he's a good defender and switchable so he's perfect for the modern game. I think he's the perfect fit for us but we'd need the lotto gods on our side again. In that 7-9 range I like AJ Griffin or Tari Eason. Eason is a bit polarizing and still raw but he would be a great wing defender for us.

LightTheBeam · Post #17 » by **LightTheBeam** » Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:53 pm

codydaze wrote:
RipPizzaGuy wrote:
codydaze wrote:
Jabari is a much better shooter and a lot more versatile than Wiggins. Rashard Lewis is pretty much the comp for him I think with lots of potential though.

Makes sense. How is his defense?

I think obviously a 6'10 shooter who can create for himself would be huge for this team.

I'm planning unfortunately like we will be picking 7-9, so I doubt its realistic. But honestly I've sold myself a bit on Mathurin, Murray, or Griffin all being good fits.

Knowing our luck we get kicked down to 8, those 3 go 5-7 and we are drafting another PG in TyTy

He's not elite on that end but he's a good defender and switchable so he's perfect for the modern game. I think he's the perfect fit for us but we'd need the lotto gods on our side again. In that 7-9 range I like AJ Griffin or Tari Eason. Eason is a bit polarizing and still raw but he would be a great wing defender for us.

Ya Eason is a name i've been hearing more and more of lately. I never saw him play but read up on him a bit. Sounds like he would be a great fit also. Tall, long, athletic, fast, plays defense, draws fouls, improved shooter.

In a world where we have Mitchell, Fox, Sabonis still on the team, a guy who plays great off ball will be really nice to have. If he can be a 3&D while also being able to cut off those Sabonis screens that would be fantastic.

TylersLakers · Post #18 » by **TylersLakers** » Sun Apr 24, 2022 2:28 pm

Has there been any rumours involving Harrison Barnes and what his market is like? Do you guys even trade him?

blind prophet · Post #19 » by **blind prophet** » Sun Apr 24, 2022 11:56 pm

TylersLakers wrote:Has there been any rumours involving Harrison Barnes and what his market is like? Do you guys even trade him?

I'd think we'd only move him if we got someone a bit younger who is really good. He fits need at two positions and is young enough still to sign to a long term contract.

TylersLakers · Post #20 » by **TylersLakers** » Wed Apr 27, 2022 10:38 pm

blind prophet wrote:
TylersLakers wrote:Has there been any rumours involving Harrison Barnes and what his market is like? Do you guys even trade him?

I'd think we'd only move him if we got someone a bit younger who is really good. He fits need at two positions and is young enough still to sign to a long term contract.

I guess THT, Kendrick Nunn and a 2029 Lakers 1st probably won't get the deal done. :lol: