People were interested in these podcasts
ImageImageImageImageImage

Game 51: Kings (25-25) @ Blazers (22-29)

Moderators: KF10, codydaze

User avatar
codydaze
Forum Mod - Kings
Forum Mod - Kings
Posts: 6,469
And1: 5,024
Joined: Jul 06, 2013
Location: Sacramento, CA
     

Game 51: Kings (25-25) @ Blazers (22-29) 

Post#1 » by codydaze » Fri Feb 7, 2025 2:59 am

I'm still in the trenches with this newborn but the game threads are back, thanks for hanging in there with me :lol:

Kings head up to Portland on the second night of a B2B against a hot Blazers team and the trade deadline now in the rear view. Valanciunas is available today and should come in handy against the stable of big bodies Portland has.
BoogieTime
General Manager
Posts: 8,353
And1: 3,048
Joined: Feb 09, 2017
 

Re: Game 51: Kings (25-25) @ Blazers (22-29) 

Post#2 » by BoogieTime » Fri Feb 7, 2025 3:42 am

I’m here for it Jonas

I was a Len fan back before he broke down, but we see the difference in a true backup big
The Beam King
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,744
And1: 773
Joined: Mar 01, 2006
Location: Sacramento, CA
 

Re: Game 51: Kings (25-25) @ Blazers (22-29) 

Post#3 » by The Beam King » Fri Feb 7, 2025 4:16 am

We gotta close out on their shooters.
User avatar
City of Trees
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 15,851
And1: 5,511
Joined: Dec 23, 2009
Location: Roseville, CA
   

Re: Game 51: Kings (25-25) @ Blazers (22-29) 

Post#4 » by City of Trees » Fri Feb 7, 2025 4:24 am

Yeah I'm on board to start Keon with DeRozan embracing the 6th man role.


Edit: who can play Small Forward lol?
User avatar
City of Trees
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 15,851
And1: 5,511
Joined: Dec 23, 2009
Location: Roseville, CA
   

Re: Game 51: Kings (25-25) @ Blazers (22-29) 

Post#5 » by City of Trees » Fri Feb 7, 2025 4:42 am

What...Is Monk trying to earn my trust as our starting PG?
BoogieTime
General Manager
Posts: 8,353
And1: 3,048
Joined: Feb 09, 2017
 

Re: Game 51: Kings (25-25) @ Blazers (22-29) 

Post#6 » by BoogieTime » Fri Feb 7, 2025 4:51 am

Terrible end to the third which may have given blazers game

Start Keon
User avatar
City of Trees
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 15,851
And1: 5,511
Joined: Dec 23, 2009
Location: Roseville, CA
   

Re: Game 51: Kings (25-25) @ Blazers (22-29) 

Post#7 » by City of Trees » Fri Feb 7, 2025 5:17 am

Late game collapse. Clearly the players aren't on the same page- which is expected.
LightTheBeam
RealGM
Posts: 18,849
And1: 11,987
Joined: Sep 17, 2010
     

Re: Game 51: Kings (25-25) @ Blazers (22-29) 

Post#8 » by LightTheBeam » Fri Feb 7, 2025 5:20 am

I hate to be a downer but I'm ready to blow this team up.

I just don't see how you can reasonably fix it.

We have no forwards, we play no defense, and we have no point guard.

This is going to be a really ugly last 30 games
User avatar
codydaze
Forum Mod - Kings
Forum Mod - Kings
Posts: 6,469
And1: 5,024
Joined: Jul 06, 2013
Location: Sacramento, CA
     

Re: Game 51: Kings (25-25) @ Blazers (22-29) 

Post#9 » by codydaze » Fri Feb 7, 2025 5:27 am

Image

Pre Deadline Kings vs Post Deadline Kings

The roster is as flawed as ever and expecting Jonas Valanciunas and Jake LaRavia to fix those flaws is just not reasonable. I was always against Monk as a starting PG, I just don't see it, there's more to being a point guard than being able to run the pick and roll. The trio of Monk/Lavine/Demar are going to continue to take turns on offense and not get Keegan involved. I don't care how they figure it out, but Keon has got to be more featured and should be playing in closing lineups.
LightTheBeam
RealGM
Posts: 18,849
And1: 11,987
Joined: Sep 17, 2010
     

Re: Game 51: Kings (25-25) @ Blazers (22-29) 

Post#10 » by LightTheBeam » Fri Feb 7, 2025 5:36 am

codydaze wrote:Image

Pre Deadline Kings vs Post Deadline Kings

The roster is as flawed as ever and expecting Jonas Valanciunas and Jake LaRavia to fix those flaws is just not reasonable. I was always against Monk as a starting PG, I just don't see it, there's more to being a point guard than being able to run the pick and roll. The trio of Monk/Lavine/Demar are going to continue to take turns on offense and not get Keegan involved. I don't care how they figure it out, but Keon has got to be more featured and should be playing in closing lineups.


I said the same man. Everyone was talking about how Monk was the one getting everyone involved and was a better facilitator than Fox. Monk makes sabonis tick, but outside of that he's out of control. He is a 6th man. We paid him to be that.

I'm looking around the league, and I don't see a savior at pg
LightTheBeam
RealGM
Posts: 18,849
And1: 11,987
Joined: Sep 17, 2010
     

Re: Game 51: Kings (25-25) @ Blazers (22-29) 

Post#11 » by LightTheBeam » Fri Feb 7, 2025 5:44 am

City of Trees wrote:Yeah I'm on board to start Keon with DeRozan embracing the 6th man role.


Edit: who can play Small Forward lol?


Bench them both man. Start LaRavia and Keon. IDC. This a new team, Doug needs to forget about egos and contract. Play guys who actually want to play defense.

Monk - Keon - LaRavia - Keegan - Sabonis

Lets develop keon and keegan. this is a lost season
BoogieTime
General Manager
Posts: 8,353
And1: 3,048
Joined: Feb 09, 2017
 

Re: Game 51: Kings (25-25) @ Blazers (22-29) 

Post#12 » by BoogieTime » Fri Feb 7, 2025 5:52 am

Better than the first one, for sure.

Only about 5 teams probably were going to mess with Portland on a back to back tonight with how they have been

Zach and Jonas have been off. I’d bench Lyles and make DeMar 6th man. Keon needs to start
BoogieTime
General Manager
Posts: 8,353
And1: 3,048
Joined: Feb 09, 2017
 

Re: Game 51: Kings (25-25) @ Blazers (22-29) 

Post#13 » by BoogieTime » Fri Feb 7, 2025 6:29 am

Having LaRavia over a non nba Lyles may have even been the difference tonight with the starters largely plus against a hot team

It will be nice to just play a 9 man rotation of nba quality starting from now
User avatar
codydaze
Forum Mod - Kings
Forum Mod - Kings
Posts: 6,469
And1: 5,024
Joined: Jul 06, 2013
Location: Sacramento, CA
     

Re: Game 51: Kings (25-25) @ Blazers (22-29) 

Post#14 » by codydaze » Fri Feb 7, 2025 7:21 am

Again, if our season hinges on Jake LaRavia then we are simply not a very good team. And I like LaRavia a lot but expecting him to be the difference isn't a reasonable expectation to put on him.
OxAndFox
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,546
And1: 3,098
Joined: May 17, 2022
Contact:

Re: Game 51: Kings (25-25) @ Blazers (22-29) 

Post#15 » by OxAndFox » Fri Feb 7, 2025 7:25 am

City of Trees wrote:Yeah I'm on board to start Keon with DeRozan embracing the 6th man role.


Edit: who can play Small Forward lol?


Keegan
OxAndFox
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,546
And1: 3,098
Joined: May 17, 2022
Contact:

Re: Game 51: Kings (25-25) @ Blazers (22-29) 

Post#16 » by OxAndFox » Fri Feb 7, 2025 7:41 am

Well. Welcome to the new Sacramento Kings. Where defense is optional. It used to be preached about, but then okay if you didn't. Now it's just blatant that you don't need to. And if you do play D you will get shut out of the offense, ala Keegan and Keon.

WTF is happening with this franchise? Fox said it after his Spurs debut. It's obvious now his meetings with the front office prior to the season were about getting defenders in here. They refused to do it and he lost patience. Good for him. Hope he dominates in San Antonio, and he will. Next up Keegan Murray. After that. Keon Ellis.

Honestly, this is like watching Semi Pro, only worse.
Don't take anything these guys say in a press conference, or any talk about ball period, seriously. They don't play D, they don't want to play D and they KNOW it won't make a difference to their playing time if they don't.

Now I'm pointing the finger at Doug. Monte put this team together, fair enough, but if Doug wants to be the coach moving forward he needs to stamp his authority on the Kings. Bench the lot of them. Put guys in that will try on D.
As Kayte said on the broadcast (one of the few things she got right actually) is that teams grow into the coaches personality. That is happening with the Blazers. It WILL NOT do the same with the Sacramento Kings though.
None of them except Keegan and Keon show anything to be a decent defender. Zero. None. Nada.

But now you have peanuts complaining about Trey Freaking Lyles causing a Kings loss because he plays 13 minutes. Not the guys that were out there getting blown by time and time again. Not the guys that refused to close out on 3pt shots. Nah, it's the guy that came off the bench and played 13 minutes. GTFOH.
BoogieTime
General Manager
Posts: 8,353
And1: 3,048
Joined: Feb 09, 2017
 

Re: Game 51: Kings (25-25) @ Blazers (22-29) 

Post#17 » by BoogieTime » Fri Feb 7, 2025 8:39 am

OxAndFox wrote:Well. Welcome to the new Sacramento Kings. Where defense is optional. It used to be preached about, but then okay if you didn't. Now it's just blatant that you don't need to. And if you do play D you will get shut out of the offense, ala Keegan and Keon.

WTF is happening with this franchise? Fox said it after his Spurs debut. It's obvious now his meetings with the front office prior to the season were about getting defenders in here. They refused to do it and he lost patience. Good for him. Hope he dominates in San Antonio, and he will. Next up Keegan Murray. After that. Keon Ellis.

Honestly, this is like watching Semi Pro, only worse.
Don't take anything these guys say in a press conference, or any talk about ball period, seriously. They don't play D, they don't want to play D and they KNOW it won't make a difference to their playing time if they don't.

Now I'm pointing the finger at Doug. Monte put this team together, fair enough, but if Doug wants to be the coach moving forward he needs to stamp his authority on the Kings. Bench the lot of them. Put guys in that will try on D.
As Kayte said on the broadcast (one of the few things she got right actually) is that teams grow into the coaches personality. That is happening with the Blazers. It WILL NOT do the same with the Sacramento Kings though.
None of them except Keegan and Keon show anything to be a decent defender. Zero. None. Nada.

But now you have peanuts complaining about Trey Freaking Lyles causing a Kings loss because he plays 13 minutes. Not the guys that were out there getting blown by time and time again. Not the guys that refused to close out on 3pt shots. Nah, it's the guy that came off the bench and played 13 minutes. GTFOH.



Team lost by a little

Lyle’s isn’t an nba player

LaRavia in bench punch could’ve been the difference tonight
LightTheBeam
RealGM
Posts: 18,849
And1: 11,987
Joined: Sep 17, 2010
     

Re: Game 51: Kings (25-25) @ Blazers (22-29) 

Post#18 » by LightTheBeam » Fri Feb 7, 2025 8:51 am

OxAndFox wrote:Well. Welcome to the new Sacramento Kings. Where defense is optional. It used to be preached about, but then okay if you didn't. Now it's just blatant that you don't need to. And if you do play D you will get shut out of the offense, ala Keegan and Keon.

WTF is happening with this franchise? Fox said it after his Spurs debut. It's obvious now his meetings with the front office prior to the season were about getting defenders in here. They refused to do it and he lost patience. Good for him. Hope he dominates in San Antonio, and he will. Next up Keegan Murray. After that. Keon Ellis.

Honestly, this is like watching Semi Pro, only worse.
Don't take anything these guys say in a press conference, or any talk about ball period, seriously. They don't play D, they don't want to play D and they KNOW it won't make a difference to their playing time if they don't.

Now I'm pointing the finger at Doug. Monte put this team together, fair enough, but if Doug wants to be the coach moving forward he needs to stamp his authority on the Kings. Bench the lot of them. Put guys in that will try on D.
As Kayte said on the broadcast (one of the few things she got right actually) is that teams grow into the coaches personality. That is happening with the Blazers. It WILL NOT do the same with the Sacramento Kings though.
None of them except Keegan and Keon show anything to be a decent defender. Zero. None. Nada.

But now you have peanuts complaining about Trey Freaking Lyles causing a Kings loss because he plays 13 minutes. Not the guys that were out there getting blown by time and time again. Not the guys that refused to close out on 3pt shots. Nah, it's the guy that came off the bench and played 13 minutes. GTFOH.


One play stood out to me. 2nd half, Blazers have ball bottom corner. They blow by lavine with his half ass reach, blow by demar with same half ass reach, easy bucket at the basket. At that moment I called game. Cant win with these guys + no rim defense.

If I'm Doug I'd have pulled them both immediately. **** your contract. Put Crawford in and let's see what he's got. I'm gonna scream to start keon and laravia.
BoogieTime
General Manager
Posts: 8,353
And1: 3,048
Joined: Feb 09, 2017
 

Re: Game 51: Kings (25-25) @ Blazers (22-29) 

Post#19 » by BoogieTime » Fri Feb 7, 2025 9:21 am

BoogieTime wrote:
OxAndFox wrote:Well. Welcome to the new Sacramento Kings. Where defense is optional. It used to be preached about, but then okay if you didn't. Now it's just blatant that you don't need to. And if you do play D you will get shut out of the offense, ala Keegan and Keon.

WTF is happening with this franchise? Fox said it after his Spurs debut. It's obvious now his meetings with the front office prior to the season were about getting defenders in here. They refused to do it and he lost patience. Good for him. Hope he dominates in San Antonio, and he will. Next up Keegan Murray. After that. Keon Ellis.

Honestly, this is like watching Semi Pro, only worse.
Don't take anything these guys say in a press conference, or any talk about ball period, seriously. They don't play D, they don't want to play D and they KNOW it won't make a difference to their playing time if they don't.

Now I'm pointing the finger at Doug. Monte put this team together, fair enough, but if Doug wants to be the coach moving forward he needs to stamp his authority on the Kings. Bench the lot of them. Put guys in that will try on D.
As Kayte said on the broadcast (one of the few things she got right actually) is that teams grow into the coaches personality. That is happening with the Blazers. It WILL NOT do the same with the Sacramento Kings though.
None of them except Keegan and Keon show anything to be a decent defender. Zero. None. Nada.

But now you have peanuts complaining about Trey Freaking Lyles causing a Kings loss because he plays 13 minutes. Not the guys that were out there getting blown by time and time again. Not the guys that refused to close out on 3pt shots. Nah, it's the guy that came off the bench and played 13 minutes. GTFOH.


I would say what I want to say but your not worth a strike

Team lost by a little

Lyle’s isn’t an nba player

LaRavia in bench punch could’ve been the difference tonight


And I don’t care if he played 13 minutes

The starters were a plus despite how “bad” they looked

We lost because of the scrub bench, yet again as all season

When LaRavia comes I don’t want to see Trey in this rotation
OxAndFox
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,546
And1: 3,098
Joined: May 17, 2022
Contact:

Re: Game 51: Kings (25-25) @ Blazers (22-29) 

Post#20 » by OxAndFox » Fri Feb 7, 2025 9:28 am

LightTheBeam wrote:
OxAndFox wrote:Well. Welcome to the new Sacramento Kings. Where defense is optional. It used to be preached about, but then okay if you didn't. Now it's just blatant that you don't need to. And if you do play D you will get shut out of the offense, ala Keegan and Keon.

WTF is happening with this franchise? Fox said it after his Spurs debut. It's obvious now his meetings with the front office prior to the season were about getting defenders in here. They refused to do it and he lost patience. Good for him. Hope he dominates in San Antonio, and he will. Next up Keegan Murray. After that. Keon Ellis.

Honestly, this is like watching Semi Pro, only worse.
Don't take anything these guys say in a press conference, or any talk about ball period, seriously. They don't play D, they don't want to play D and they KNOW it won't make a difference to their playing time if they don't.

Now I'm pointing the finger at Doug. Monte put this team together, fair enough, but if Doug wants to be the coach moving forward he needs to stamp his authority on the Kings. Bench the lot of them. Put guys in that will try on D.
As Kayte said on the broadcast (one of the few things she got right actually) is that teams grow into the coaches personality. That is happening with the Blazers. It WILL NOT do the same with the Sacramento Kings though.
None of them except Keegan and Keon show anything to be a decent defender. Zero. None. Nada.

But now you have peanuts complaining about Trey Freaking Lyles causing a Kings loss because he plays 13 minutes. Not the guys that were out there getting blown by time and time again. Not the guys that refused to close out on 3pt shots. Nah, it's the guy that came off the bench and played 13 minutes. GTFOH.


One play stood out to me. 2nd half, Blazers have ball bottom corner. They blow by lavine with his half ass reach, blow by demar with same half ass reach, easy bucket at the basket. At that moment I called game. Cant win with these guys + no rim defense.

If I'm Doug I'd have pulled them both immediately. **** your contract. Put Crawford in and let's see what he's got. I'm gonna scream to start keon and laravia.


Correct. But peanut brain will just keep making excuses. It's right there, plain as day and still, excuse after excuse. At some point it's got to sink in, but hey, at least they can give maximum effort on the offensive end. Great strategy peanut.

Return to Sacramento Kings