Game 75: Kings (36-38) @ Pacers (43-31)

[codydaze]

Just getting home from work and flipping the game on after an early start today in Indiana. From what I heard on the radio on the drive home and have seen since I've been able to watch, the defensive intensity looks solid as we head into the half with a 6 point lead.

[LightTheBeam]

So glad we iced out keegan/sabonis/keon the entire 4th and let monk, lavine, deebo take turns in iso.

They found a way to lose.

[codydaze]

Please, please, please move on from Deebo and/or Lavine this summer. Optics keep you from benching them to close games but Keon needs to be on the floor.

[kevin44]

The Suns are done so the 10th spot is ours. Hard to believe this team was the 3 seed three years ago. I can't wait for this season to be over.

[OxAndFox]

This game is a perfect illustration of why DDR is the worst player to have on your team. Just the most selfish player I've seen.
People will look at the box score and go, Deebo had a good game. 31 points. BUT he completely takes teams and his teammates out of rhythm and then be an absolute turnstile defensively. I mean the effort on D is insane. It only gets worse when he's scoring too.

And I also put this on Doug. His offense is so disastrous. This whole playing in 3 thirds of the shot clock is just handing the ISO ball over to Deebo and Monk and they're taking advantage of it.
This is the MAIN reason DDR just hangs onto the ball. See's the clock tick down to around 10 and then decides it's too late, its basically the last 3rd of the shot clock and that means Doug wants an ISO play.

The biggest frustration is now the Suns and Blazers are completely out of the play in picture so you might as well try and get a home play in game. So Ws are now important again.

[OxAndFox]

So glad we iced out keegan/sabonis/keon the entire 4th and let monk, lavine, deebo take turns in iso.

They found a way to lose.

I actually think they froze out Lavine too. Just felt like they ignored him after he started hitting there for a while.

On a side note, when was the last time Sabonis didn't have an assist in a game?
I will help out. He wasn't a member of the Sacramento Kings.
It was December 13, 2021. Indiana Pacers v Golden State Warriors.

Just another fail of a strategy from the Kings.

** Now he did have 0 assists in the game he played 1 minute in earlier this year. But not going to count that.

[OxAndFox]

Pfft. Doug starts the press conference praising the first half and then saying we got a little stagnant in the offense in the 4th. You don't say Doug. It's your offense and your strategy that is doing it. Wake the F up.

When are we all going to realise DDR isn't that good of a closer. If any player gets the opportunity to do it game after game after game after game they will become "good" at it. Not many wouldn't TBH.

The only times his ISO game works is when he gets into it quickly and if you squint you can mesh it into some semblance of the offense.

[LightTheBeam]

So glad we iced out keegan/sabonis/keon the entire 4th and let monk, lavine, deebo take turns in iso.

They found a way to lose.

I actually think they froze out Lavine too. Just felt like they ignored him after he started hitting there for a while.

On a side note, when was the last time Sabonis didn't have an assist in a game?
I will help out. He wasn't a member of the Sacramento Kings.
It was December 13, 2021. Indiana Pacers v Golden State Warriors.

Just another fail of a strategy from the Kings.

** Now he did have 0 assists in the game he played 1 minute in earlier this year. But not going to count that.

Lavine doesnr get froze out, he pisses down his leg and disappears. Dude is the most anti-clutch player I've ever seen. He shows up vs bad teams only.

[BoogieTime]

Hopefully what we see down the stretch... compete but lose..

This team has been taken totally out of Domas' hands, and its coaching... How hard to bench DeRozan, get some movement, and get Zach some shots?

Monk..... man, he has been so bad post trade it shakes my belief in him... but ultimately I'd like to see him with a proven coach

Zach has been just been notably bad on defense, still, he was much better in Chi and has the tools to be better.. like a lot of the team at this point, like to see him and the team with a much clearer concept - system and coaching. doesn't appear to be playing for DC

[OxAndFox]

Hopefully what we see down the stretch... compete but lose..

This team has been taken totally out of Domas' hands, and its coaching... How hard to bench DeRozan, get some movement, and get Zach some shots?

Monk..... man, he has been so bad post trade it shakes my belief in him... but ultimately I'd like to see him with a proven coach

Zach has been just been notably bad on defense, still, he was much better in Chi and has the tools to be better.. like a lot of the team at this point, like to see him and the team with a much clearer concept - system and coaching. doesn't appear to be playing for DC

Look man. We know you don't watch ball. God damn. Zac hasn't been THAT bad on D. I'm measuring him to DDR so against the worst. But he was shocking in Chicago. Stop trying to push this insane thing that Lavine was someone he simply isn't. First thing its he's Curry or Klay. Now he is meant to be who on the defensive end? It's just the way he's built. He's not going to change because of metrics. He is NEVER going to be a plus defender. Let's leave it at that.
He can be a neutral on the D end and he has shown, occasionally, a willingness to do it. Not great D, but decent enough. Doug has bought that out of him, what if another coach, your coach, doesn't? It's just a never ending circle of blame with you.

[BoogieTime]

Hopefully what we see down the stretch... compete but lose..

This team has been taken totally out of Domas' hands, and its coaching... How hard to bench DeRozan, get some movement, and get Zach some shots?

Monk..... man, he has been so bad post trade it shakes my belief in him... but ultimately I'd like to see him with a proven coach

Zach has been just been notably bad on defense, still, he was much better in Chi and has the tools to be better.. like a lot of the team at this point, like to see him and the team with a much clearer concept - system and coaching. doesn't appear to be playing for DC

Look man. We know you don't watch ball. God damn. Zac hasn't been THAT bad on D. I'm measuring him to DDR so against the worst. But he was shocking in Chicago. Stop trying to push this insane thing that Lavine was someone he simply isn't. First thing its he's Curry or Klay. Now he is meant to be who on the defensive end? It's just the way he's built. He's not going to change because of metrics. He is NEVER going to be a plus defender. Let's leave it at that.
He can be a neutral on the D end and he has shown, occasionally, a willingness to do it. Not great D, but decent enough. Doug has bought that out of him, what if another coach, your coach, doesn't? It's just a never ending circle of blame with you.

I know you don't know basketball, and I don't respect you or your views, so not sure why you keep on replying to me except to deliberately annoy people. I ignore your inane posts, but when you reply to me I know your saying something dumb

He's been worse in Sacramento, and he was a better overall player in Chicago, despite my fandom. His worse metrics here are just the tip of the iceberg. His defense has been embarrassing my views of him recently. I'm one who thinks he has the tools to be fine

And the entire team doesn't appear to be playing for Doug, but certainly Zach

With a new coach you could see an energized team with a better system. It would be hard for Vivek to torpedo this team with an interim coach. I said at the time of the trade, the coach will come before we know what we have

[OxAndFox]

Hopefully what we see down the stretch... compete but lose..

This team has been taken totally out of Domas' hands, and its coaching... How hard to bench DeRozan, get some movement, and get Zach some shots?

Monk..... man, he has been so bad post trade it shakes my belief in him... but ultimately I'd like to see him with a proven coach

Zach has been just been notably bad on defense, still, he was much better in Chi and has the tools to be better.. like a lot of the team at this point, like to see him and the team with a much clearer concept - system and coaching. doesn't appear to be playing for DC

Look man. We know you don't watch ball. God damn. Zac hasn't been THAT bad on D. I'm measuring him to DDR so against the worst. But he was shocking in Chicago. Stop trying to push this insane thing that Lavine was someone he simply isn't. First thing its he's Curry or Klay. Now he is meant to be who on the defensive end? It's just the way he's built. He's not going to change because of metrics. He is NEVER going to be a plus defender. Let's leave it at that.
He can be a neutral on the D end and he has shown, occasionally, a willingness to do it. Not great D, but decent enough. Doug has bought that out of him, what if another coach, your coach, doesn't? It's just a never ending circle of blame with you.

I know you don't know basketball, and I don't respect you or your views, so not sure why you keep on replying to me except to deliberately annoy people. I ignore your inane posts, but when you reply to me I know your saying something dumb

He's been worse in Sacramento, and he was a better overall player in Chicago, despite my fandom. His worse metrics here are just the tip of the iceberg. His defense has been embarrassing my views of him recently. I'm one who thinks he has the tools to be fine

And the entire team doesn't appear to be playing for Doug, but certainly Zach

With a new coach you could see an energized team with a better system. It would be hard for Vivek to torpedo this team with an interim coach. I said at the time of the trade, the coach will come before we know what we have

No one here is trying, nor will they ever, have a p#%ing contest with you PeanutTime.

Of course his D is embarrassing. Because that's him. He wasn't "much better" in Chicago.

Actually I tell you what, tell us all in detail on exactly why his D was much better in Chicago? I bet you won't even go there, and that will be telling.

[BoogieTime]

Look man. We know you don't watch ball. God damn. Zac hasn't been THAT bad on D. I'm measuring him to DDR so against the worst. But he was shocking in Chicago. Stop trying to push this insane thing that Lavine was someone he simply isn't. First thing its he's Curry or Klay. Now he is meant to be who on the defensive end? It's just the way he's built. He's not going to change because of metrics. He is NEVER going to be a plus defender. Let's leave it at that.
He can be a neutral on the D end and he has shown, occasionally, a willingness to do it. Not great D, but decent enough. Doug has bought that out of him, what if another coach, your coach, doesn't? It's just a never ending circle of blame with you.

I know you don't know basketball, and I don't respect you or your views, so not sure why you keep on replying to me except to deliberately annoy people. I ignore your inane posts, but when you reply to me I know your saying something dumb

He's been worse in Sacramento, and he was a better overall player in Chicago, despite my fandom. His worse metrics here are just the tip of the iceberg. His defense has been embarrassing my views of him recently. I'm one who thinks he has the tools to be fine

And the entire team doesn't appear to be playing for Doug, but certainly Zach

With a new coach you could see an energized team with a better system. It would be hard for Vivek to torpedo this team with an interim coach. I said at the time of the trade, the coach will come before we know what we have

No one here is trying, nor will they ever, have a p#%ing contest with you PeanutTime.

Of course his D is embarrassing. Because that's him. He wasn't "much better" in Chicago.

Actually I tell you what, tell us all in detail on exactly why his D was much better in Chicago? I bet you won't even go there, and that will be telling.

I already did incoherent numb

[OxAndFox]

I know you don't know basketball, and I don't respect you or your views, so not sure why you keep on replying to me except to deliberately annoy people. I ignore your inane posts, but when you reply to me I know your saying something dumb

He's been worse in Sacramento, and he was a better overall player in Chicago, despite my fandom. His worse metrics here are just the tip of the iceberg. His defense has been embarrassing my views of him recently. I'm one who thinks he has the tools to be fine

And the entire team doesn't appear to be playing for Doug, but certainly Zach

With a new coach you could see an energized team with a better system. It would be hard for Vivek to torpedo this team with an interim coach. I said at the time of the trade, the coach will come before we know what we have

No one here is trying, nor will they ever, have a p#%ing contest with you PeanutTime.

Of course his D is embarrassing. Because that's him. He wasn't "much better" in Chicago.

Actually I tell you what, tell us all in detail on exactly why his D was much better in Chicago? I bet you won't even go there, and that will be telling.

I already did incoherent numb

This is exactly why you're PeanutTime. You have NEVER explained anything in detail with actual basketball schematics, planning or team disciplines.
In Detail. Let's hear it. In Detail. Why was Lavine "much better" defensively in Chicago?
It's your Time Peanut. Pardon the pun. Your just showing us all that you can't.

Again. Very telling.

[BoogieTime]

No one here is trying, nor will they ever, have a p#%ing contest with you PeanutTime.

Of course his D is embarrassing. Because that's him. He wasn't "much better" in Chicago.

Actually I tell you what, tell us all in detail on exactly why his D was much better in Chicago? I bet you won't even go there, and that will be telling.

I already did incoherent numb

This is exactly why you're PeanutTime. You have NEVER explained anything in detail with actual basketball schematics, planning or team disciplines.
In Detail. Let's hear it. In Detail. Why was Lavine "much better" defensively in Chicago?
It's your Time Peanut. Pardon the pun. Your just showing us all that you can't.

Again. Very telling.

Listen trolll, I don’t want to explain anything to you

I don’t want you in my world

Your posts are ignored, but I see your barely English low level BBIQ tailing me, I will respond to every post you make , happily

[OxAndFox]

I already did incoherent numb

This is exactly why you're PeanutTime. You have NEVER explained anything in detail with actual basketball schematics, planning or team disciplines.
In Detail. Let's hear it. In Detail. Why was Lavine "much better" defensively in Chicago?
It's your Time Peanut. Pardon the pun. Your just showing us all that you can't.

Again. Very telling.

Listen trolll, I don’t want to explain anything to you

I don’t want you in my world

Your posts are ignored, but I see your barely English low level BBIQ tailing me, I will respond to every post you make , happily

I don't want to explain anything to you because I can't.

My low BBIQ that has played/coached/administered basketball and been extremely successful, along with other sports as well, I would imagine, at much higher levels than you (I would bet you don't or haven't played organised ball), is just asking to be educated by someone of your intellect.

So again, I ask, in detail, explain to someone with low BBIQ, why was Lavine "much better" defensively in Chicago?

[codydaze]

Shutting this one down and we can try another time. Enough with the personal attacks and name calling.