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Hedo for Artest
Posted: Wed Feb 6, 2008 8:59 pm
by MostValuableGM
Change in Team Outlook: +1.1 ppg, +0.7 rpg, and +0.5 apg.
Incoming Player
Hedo Turkoglu
6-8 SF / SG from Turkey (Foreign)
19.5 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 4.5 apg in 38.0 minutes
Outgoing Player
Ron Artest
6-7 SF from St. John's
18.4 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 4.0 apg in 38.2 minutes
would you do it?
Posted: Wed Feb 6, 2008 9:07 pm
by rpa
No
a) Artest is a far superior player
b) The Kings don't need another longterm salaried player
c) The Kings do not need another wing player (Hedo is NOT a PF)
Posted: Wed Feb 6, 2008 9:10 pm
by Ballings7
Otis Smith made it clear last year he doesn't want to take on any questionable character guys (Ron's being questionable generally). Plus Hedo is already such a fit and valuable player in Orlando.
I'd do it/be okay with it, Kings would do it. But the Magic wouldn't.
Posted: Wed Feb 6, 2008 9:44 pm
by a-rod
NO
Posted: Wed Feb 6, 2008 9:59 pm
by ICMTM
With Rashard Lewis in town IMO Turk is expandable. He's playing great this season as well so I can understand shopping him.
I don't like the deal however. Doesn't Francisco Garcia remind you a little bit of a young Hedo?
Posted: Wed Feb 6, 2008 10:19 pm
by E-DUBB
i would do it in a heartbeat.
Posted: Wed Feb 6, 2008 10:22 pm
by Smills91
HELLLL NO...Hedo's had a great year, but that doesn't mean I trade a player that has CONSISTENTLY been far superior than him in Hedo's UP year. We're very familiar with Hedo's player, he's great, but he's not Ron Artest great.
Posted: Thu Feb 7, 2008 12:58 am
by Mr. Savage
if you really think Artest is better than Turk then you don't how Basketball works.
Turk is actually a playmaker, who can create his own shot as well as create scoring opportunities for his teammates. You can actually run your offense through Turk.
That alone makes him better than Artest, who is definitely not that type of player.
Posted: Thu Feb 7, 2008 1:00 am
by pillwenney
Mr. Savage wrote:if you really think Artest is better than Turk then you don't how Basketball works.
Turk is actually a playmaker, who can create his own shot as well as create scoring opportunities for his teammates. You can actually run your offense through Turk.
That alone makes him better than Artest, who is definitely not that type of player.
Yyyyes he is. The Kings have run their offense through Ron successfully several times this year.
Posted: Thu Feb 7, 2008 1:03 am
by ICMTM
Mr. Savage wrote:if you really think Artest is better than Turk then you don't how Basketball works.
Turk is actually a playmaker, who can create his own shot as well as create scoring opportunities for his teammates. You can actually run your offense through Turk.
That alone makes him better than Artest, who is definitely not that type of player.
I think someone is forgetting Turkaglo was once a King?
Posted: Thu Feb 7, 2008 1:05 am
by Danimal1730
if you really think Artest is better than Turk then you don't how Basketball works.
Turk is actually a playmaker, who can create his own shot as well as create scoring opportunities for his teammates. You can actually run your offense through Turk.
That alone makes him better than Artest, who is definitely not that type of player.
The problem with this kind of argument is that we have had both, and know their tendencies. We had Hedo first. He is a good player, but if you think he has the same playmaking ability as Artest than you are just not watching the games. Hedo can not carry a team, ever. Artest has, and has consistently before (Spring 2006).
Posted: Thu Feb 7, 2008 2:09 am
by Rugged Ron Ron
Ballings7 wrote:
I'd do it/be okay with it, Kings would do it. But the Magic wouldn't.
Posted: Thu Feb 7, 2008 2:31 am
by Wolfay
What's the incentive for the Kings to do this?
Posted: Thu Feb 7, 2008 6:50 am
by Smills91
Mr. Savage wrote:if you really think Artest is better than Turk then you don't how Basketball works.Turk is actually a playmaker, who can create his own shot as well as create scoring opportunities for his teammates. You can actually run your offense through Turk.
That alone makes him better than Artest, who is definitely not that type of player.
Are you freaking kidding me? We drafted Hedo, WE KNOW AND LOVE HIS GAME. And he's had a GREAT season. But there is noway in hell that Hedo could even hold Artest's jock on the basketball court, this is like comparing Ricky Davis to Paul Pierce. It's just not even close.
RON >>> Hedo
Posted: Sat Feb 9, 2008 12:54 am
by Nuggetsfanduh98
If I said the Nugs traded JR Smith+Najera+1st round pick for Artest what would ya'lls reaction be...(They have not completed this trade I was just wanting to see your reaction on if you like it or not) thx.
Posted: Sat Feb 9, 2008 1:11 am
by RIPskaterdude
Nuggetsfanduh98 wrote:If I said the Nugs traded JR Smith+Najera+1st round pick for Artest what would ya'lls reaction be...(They have not completed this trade I was just wanting to see your reaction on if you like it or not) thx.
I wouldn't HATE it, but if that trade happened, it would be pretty apparent that the Kings didn't have alot offers on the table for Artest...and that no one wanted KT, even if it meant getting Artest for "free".
EDIT: The real reason why I wouldn't like it is because we have plenty of wing players and have no need for Smith or Najera...but at least we get a 1st out of it. Like I said, if that's the best thing on the table...
Posted: Sat Feb 9, 2008 1:25 am
by SadKingsFan
Nuggetsfanduh98 wrote:If I said the Nugs traded JR Smith+Najera+1st round pick for Artest what would ya'lls reaction be...(They have not completed this trade I was just wanting to see your reaction on if you like it or not) thx.
I wouldnt cut myself but i would love to know the other offers that were on the table after the fact so i would know for sure that Smith and Najera along with a pick, was the best deal available.
EDIT: lol skaterdude just said the same exact thing anyway.
Posted: Sat Feb 9, 2008 1:42 am
by pillwenney
More than anything, I would like for us to wait until the deadline to take that deal.
Posted: Sat Feb 9, 2008 1:43 am
by BMiller52
