Free agent money?

sacking101 · Post #1 » by **sacking101** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 11:19 pm

I'm not sure about the rules money wise. With Anthony johnson, lorenzen wright, and beno's contracts up after the season and add in the mid level exeption does that give us money this offseason to go for a guy like Brand?

Post #2 » by **pillwenney** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 11:25 pm

Not even close. We'll have to use the MLE to re-sign Beno because we won't have his bird rights, and we'll still be over the cap.

Besides, it appears that Brand won't opt out of his contract this year.

sacking101 · Post #3 » by **sacking101** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 11:41 pm

So basically the only way we acquire new players are through the draft and trade?

Post #4 » by **pillwenney** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 11:48 pm

Probably--unless we draft a PG, and decide to let Beno go. Then we could use the MLE on someone. But given how close we're going to be to the luxury tax, I don't even know if we'll use it on Beno. We'll see though.

sacking101 · Post #5 » by **sacking101** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 12:24 am

Ok not to reassuring but hopefully petrie pulls something off.

deNIEd · Post #6 » by **deNIEd** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 2:06 am

Unless we luck out and win the lotto and draft either Rose or Bayless, Beno will 100% be a king next year with the MLE, leaving the only options for the kings to obtain any new players being draft, trade, or stuff like LLE, our tiny TE, or vet min (little stuff that no one gets excited about)

Post #7 » by **pillwenney** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 2:24 am

deNIEd wrote:Unless we luck out and win the lotto and draft either Rose or Bayless, Beno will 100% be a king next year with the MLE, leaving the only options for the kings to obtain any new players being draft, trade, or stuff like LLE, our tiny TE, or vet min (little stuff that no one gets excited about)

Not if we draft Collison or Augustin.

deNIEd · Post #8 » by **deNIEd** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 3:36 am

mitchweber wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Not if we draft Collison or Augustin.

Collison or Augustin are not good enough to come in and start.
Its clear the organization wants to win, (or at least try to), DJ or Collison as a starting rookie pg = 20 win team.

KM44 · Post #9 » by **KM44** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 4:36 am

really, rose would be the only player worth getting, the others would be solid starters in the NBA at best, possibly one all-star or two. Rose is a full-fledged superstar coming in, CP3 kind of talent, so drafting a PG would be a waste, cause Beno would be better in the next 5 years when those guys would be developing. We need a Kevin Love or big PF kind of guy. I know Love goes down as a Center, but he will Play PF in the NBA. so talk crap all you want, he plays like a four.

Back to my point, we need a big, preferably a four. Case closed. (Rose excluded)

SacKingZZZ · Post #10 » by **SacKingZZZ** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 4:42 am

mitchweber wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Not if we draft Collison or Augustin.

I really hope we just take a chance on re-signing Beno and not focus on taking either of these guys.

UKF · Post #11 » by **UKF** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 5:40 am

deNIEd wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Collison or Augustin are not good enough to come in and start.Its clear the organization wants to win, (or at least try to), DJ or Collison as a starting rookie pg = 20 win team.

I dont know if Darren can come in and start but I strongly believe that DJ can and will be a good PG in the NBA. I think he will have an impact on this team like Deron Williams had an impact in Utah. He like Deron has great leadership skills and has a very similar game to Deron. I would be surprised if he was still available when it is the Kings turn to draft at around 11th or 12th this year, and I would love to be surprised!

BMiller52 · Post #12 » by **BMiller52** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 6:19 am

UKF wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I dont know if Darren can come in and start but I strongly believe that DJ can and will be a good PG in the NBA. I think he will have an impact on this team like Deron Williams had an impact in Utah. He like Deron has great leadership skills and has a very similar game to Deron. I would be surprised if he was still available when it is the Kings turn to draft at around 11th or 12th this year, and I would love to be surprised!

Deron Williams is like 4 inches taller than DJ... he reminds me of a poor man's CP3 more actually.

RoyalCourtJestr · Post #13 » by **RoyalCourtJestr** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 6:26 am

UKF wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I dont know if Darren can come in and start but I strongly believe that DJ can and will be a good PG in the NBA. I think he will have an impact on this team like Deron Williams had an impact in Utah. He like Deron has great leadership skills and has a very similar game to Deron. I would be surprised if he was still available when it is the Kings turn to draft at around 11th or 12th this year, and I would love to be surprised!

Word.

I'm of the opinion that the best thing in the draft that the Kings can legitimently get (besides getting lucky and perhaps DeAndre Jordan

) is to draft Agustine. BUT that does not mean I'm opposed to keeping Beno for a year or two. I do not think he is the PG of the future for us which is why I think getting a floor general like Agustine is vital, but having Beno for two years at MLE would be a great thing for Agustine to learn under before he takes the reigns.

BMiller52 · Post #14 » by **BMiller52** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 6:52 am

Lightning Strike wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Word.

I'm of the opinion that the best thing in the draft that the Kings can legitimently get (besides getting lucky and perhaps DeAndre Jordan ) is to draft Agustine. BUT that does not mean I'm opposed to keeping Beno for a year or two. I do not think he is the PG of the future for us which is why I think getting a floor general like Agustine is vital, but having Beno for two years at MLE would be a great thing for Agustine to learn under before he takes the reigns.

No...

We must take:

GMcapable · Post #15 » by **GMcapable** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 3:38 pm

Man I agree we need a big. I really like Dorsey, as a Senior he is NBA ready and I just like his game. I havent seen where he is projected in mock drafts but it seems more realistic he would be available at 10-12 than any of the guards discussed. I mean with a .7 chance of getting into the top 2 I think its a waste of time to discuss DJ, Rose, etc. Also I hear Love is going to stay 1 more year and go for the title.

RoyalCourtJestr · Post #16 » by **RoyalCourtJestr** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 5:32 pm

BMiller52 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

No...

We must take:

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If we go PF/C he's at the top of my list and always has been :wink:

chriswebb86 · Post #17 » by **chriswebb86** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 6:42 pm

I would love for the team to get either McGee, Jordan, or Aurthur.

deNIEd · Post #18 » by **deNIEd** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 7:20 pm

well, i've only seen a few texas games and wasn't tremendously impressed with DJ, but i'm sure i don't have enough information to speak about him...
however, if he really is as good as everyone is saying, there is no way he slips to the kings.

but regardless, i'd bet anything, kings use their mle on beno and not anyone else

RoyalCourtJestr · Post #19 » by **RoyalCourtJestr** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 8:14 pm

Agustine trounced my school back in December. I've kept my eye on him sense then. He's really got the potential to be a floor general.

BMiller52 · Post #20 » by **BMiller52** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 8:23 pm

GMcapable wrote:Man I agree we need a big. I really like Dorsey, as a Senior he is NBA ready and I just like his game. I havent seen where he is projected in mock drafts but it seems more realistic he would be available at 10-12 than any of the guards discussed. I mean with a .7 chance of getting into the top 2 I think its a waste of time to discuss DJ, Rose, etc. Also I hear Love is going to stay 1 more year and go for the title.

Maybe with our second rounder.