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Portland Outgoing: Martell Webster, Diogu, James Jones
Incoming: Shane Battier

Sacramento Outgoing: (signed)Ron Artest
Incoming: Martell Webster, Diogu, Luther Head, Aaron Brooks

Houston Outgoing: Shane Battier, Luther Head, Aaron Brooks
Incoming: Ron Artest, James Jones

What do you guys think?

I'm not trading with Portland.

3 of those guys are guards and brooks is the only one who knows how to play pg but is more of a scoring gurad as well,meaning we will have another logjam and we also have no room for roster spots as well.

This trade is on the trade board or one similar to it. You can see my response there. In short, Kings pass, not even close.

SacTown Kings wrote:This trade is on the trade board or one similar to it. You can see my response there. In short, Kings pass, not even close.

I thought this trade should be at least considered IMO. It is no means of "not even close". We get young prospects which is ideal. Or maybe just I'm high on Webster. Which I am.

kingsfan10 wrote:

SacTown Kings wrote:This trade is on the trade board or one similar to it. You can see my response there. In short, Kings pass, not even close.

I thought this trade should be at least considered IMO. It is no means of "not even close". We get young prospects which is ideal. Or maybe just I'm high on Webster. Which I am.

I just don't think any of those "prospect" are or will be any good, except for Webster. However, we don't need Webster he will not be starting over Martin or Salmons or Garcia so what's the point. Why not use one of our best treading chips (Ron) to get us something we need like a pg not named Brooks. Plus we trade 1 person for 4, where are we going to have room for all these players? I think we would have like 16 or 17 people not even including Beno. I liked Diogu before he came into the league and even though his time has been limited he hasn't impressed me at all like he did in college.

Take out Brooks and Head and replace them with Sergio and find a way for someone to take KT or SAR and then I would think about it. As it is right now I don't think it is close.

SacTown Kings wrote:

kingsfan10 wrote:

SacTown Kings wrote:This trade is on the trade board or one similar to it. You can see my response there. In short, Kings pass, not even close.

I thought this trade should be at least considered IMO. It is no means of "not even close". We get young prospects which is ideal. Or maybe just I'm high on Webster. Which I am.

I just don't think any of those "prospect" are or will be any good, except for Webster. However, we don't need Webster he will not be starting over Martin or Salmons or Garcia so what's the point. Why not use one of our best treading chips (Ron) to get us something we need like a pg not named Brooks. Plus we trade 1 person for 4, where are we going to have room for all these players? I think we would have like 16 or 17 people not even including Beno. I liked Diogu before he came into the league and even though his time has been limited he hasn't impressed me at all like he did in college.

Take out Brooks and Head and replace them with Sergio and find a way for someone to take KT or SAR and then I would think about it. As it is right now I don't think it is close.

Yeah, you are probably right. As you mention it, if we trade our best trading chip, Artest, we should at least get a capable PG or PF. Yeah, I see your perspective. I think I was too caught up of the rebuilding/youth movement. But that package is actually decent for a rebuilding move assuming that other deals are made. Ship Miller and etc...And we would have a shot to get a high lotto. Wow, I'm talking like deNIEd...

There is no use for this trade to even be listed here it should be blocked after portland dealt with the pacers to steal bayless from use i would not trade with either portland or indiana unless we can rob them blind !

You are the weakest link BOO BYE !

NO DEAL !

bdgking wrote:There is no use for this trade to even be listed here it should be blocked after portland dealt with the pacers to steal bayless from use i would not trade with either portland or indiana unless we can rob them blind !

You are the weakest link BOO BYE !

NO DEAL !

I've heard in many instances that the kings management is very very high on Brooks. A rumor was circulating during the trade deadline that the rockets and the kings were discussing the possibility of a brook/artest trade. And i've heard that the kings contemplated on drafting brooks at #10 last year. I dont know if those rumors are true or not but i'm almost positive that the Kings value Brooks very highly.

If the Rockets take out Luther Head and Portland sweeten the pot a little bit like including a 2009 lottery protected first round pick would u guys do it?(not that i think Blazers would do it but i'm just curious)

Guy986 wrote:I've heard in many instances that the kings management is very very high on Brooks. A rumor was circulating during the trade deadline that the rockets and the kings were discussing the possibility of a brook/artest trade. And i've heard that the kings contemplated on drafting brooks at #10 last year. I dont know if those rumors are true or not but i'm almost positive that the Kings value Brooks very highly.

If the Rockets take out Luther Head and Portland sweeten the pot a little bit like including a 2009 lottery protected first round pick would u guys do it?(not that i think Blazers would do it but i'm just curious)

I'd do the deal straight up with Houston but I wouldn't trade with Portland no matter what. After Pritchard stole Bayless from us he can rot in hell and eat a dick for all I care.

I think this deal is OK for the Kings. I could easily see them doing this. They already tried to trade for Brooks once so I think Petrie does this without hesitation.

Diogu is crap and Head is repetitive, but over all, I think Geoff considers.

SacKingZZZ wrote:I think this deal is OK for the Kings. I could easily see them doing this. They already tried to trade for Brooks once so I think Petrie does this without hesitation.

I'm a Blazers fan but was wondering how the guy you drafted and Spencer Hawes could play
together on the same front line for I'd think you would be awfully slow.

I think you guys should have drafted Brandon Rush and did a deal with Indiana to get
Bayless if that's the guy you wanted. Don't blame Portland and KP for out hustling you for
a player for you had to know Portland wanted him as well.

Norm2953 wrote:

SacKingZZZ wrote:I think this deal is OK for the Kings. I could easily see them doing this. They already tried to trade for Brooks once so I think Petrie does this without hesitation.

I'm a Blazers fan but was wondering how the guy you drafted and Spencer Hawes could play
together on the same front line for I'd think you would be awfully slow.

I think you guys should have drafted Brandon Rush and did a deal with Indiana to get
Bayless if that's the guy you wanted. Don't blame Portland and KP for out hustling you for
a player for you had to know Portland wanted him as well.

Actually our recent lotto, Jason Thompson, is actually one of the quicker PFs in the entire draft. He has great foot speed for his side actually.

Spencer is decent for his size nor quick or slow. He is just decent. He is perceived as slow but that was overblown.

IMO I think the deal was pre-arrange to some extent that it was already a done deal between IND/POR.

Norm2953 wrote:

SacKingZZZ wrote:I think this deal is OK for the Kings. I could easily see them doing this. They already tried to trade for Brooks once so I think Petrie does this without hesitation.

I'm a Blazers fan but was wondering how the guy you drafted and Spencer Hawes could play
together on the same front line for I'd think you would be awfully slow.

I think you guys should have drafted Brandon Rush and did a deal with Indiana to get
Bayless if that's the guy you wanted. Don't blame Portland and KP for out hustling you for
a player for you had to know Portland wanted him as well.

You think Thompson is slow? Look up his youtube highlights. He is a good athlete. Hell he is a better athlete than a lot of the guys that were available to us. He's not slow at all...

Maybe we should've drafted Rush to **** up your deal but we didn't, but I think Petrie would've taken Bayless if he was there at 12. Then again maybe GP liked Thompson better than him as well considering Bayless has t-rex arms and that probably won't help him defensively.

Or maybe we didn't know Indy wanted Rush. Who knows.

Why go to all the trouble. Basically it's Battier and something for Artest,and Jones is a FA so he could be signed as is-except he's looking for an MLE type deal.
In any case the Rockets are too thin in the wings and too close to lux tax to do a Battier for Artest deal.

We talked about moving up, but looking at the circumstances, I think the basic assumption is that Geoff would rather have Thompson and Cisco than just Bayless. That's my guess anyway.

BMiller52 wrote:

Norm2953 wrote:

SacKingZZZ wrote:I think this deal is OK for the Kings. I could easily see them doing this. They already tried to trade for Brooks once so I think Petrie does this without hesitation.

I'm a Blazers fan but was wondering how the guy you drafted and Spencer Hawes could play
together on the same front line for I'd think you would be awfully slow.

I think you guys should have drafted Brandon Rush and did a deal with Indiana to get
Bayless if that's the guy you wanted. Don't blame Portland and KP for out hustling you for
a player for you had to know Portland wanted him as well.

You think Thompson is slow? Look up his youtube highlights. He is a good athlete. Hell he is a better athlete than a lot of the guys that were available to us. He's not slow at all...

Maybe we should've drafted Rush to **** up your deal but we didn't, but I think Petrie would've taken Bayless if he was there at 12. Then again maybe GP liked Thompson better than him as well considering Bayless has t-rex arms and that probably won't help him defensively.

Or maybe we didn't know Indy wanted Rush. Who knows.

It's not so much that Thompson is slow but I know Spencer Hawes has to play center
which means Thompson has to play PF. He'd better be fast to matchup with the
really quick PF's in the Western Conference. Most of the draft pundits thought
there were better players left on the board for he was still raw defensively after
playing four years in college and was the biggest reach in the first round.

I'm not here to criticize for I hope he works out for you guys for I've got some
friends who live near Sacramento. I just think you guys should have nabbed
Rush at 12 who was the BPA or someone like JJ Hickson who might be really
good in a couple of years.

^^^

3 problems about that post.

1) "he was still raw defensively after playing four years in college" Umm, Thompson was MAAC Defensive Player of The Year twice IIRC. That shows that he is a good defender. And I read/saw some games about him. So, your statement is untrue.

2) " I just think you guys should have nabbed Rush at 12" Umm, why would we? Rush plays in the position that we are deep on. He wont play ahead Martin, Artest, Salmons, or Garcia. So, really he will have limited minutes or if any.

3) "JJ Hickson who might be really good in a couple of years." You are suggesting to draft Hickson at #12? That's even MORE of a reach than Thompson, who is one of the most NBA ready players that fits in Petrie's preference. A highly skilled bigman with passing/shooting attributes. Which Hickson doesn't have.