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Letting it sink in.

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 11:46 pm
by mobiuseinz
I have no problem that we drafted Jason Thompson, but in my mind I feel as if we picked a little to soon. Regardless, I think that Thompson is a genuinely hard working kid, and ultimately will work out better than Arthur or Randolph. Randolph didn't wanna play for us anyways, and since we were looking at someone who is versatile and can handle the ball, Thompson was the only choice. Arthur while a great rebounder, is not as versatile as Randolph and Thompson.

Randolph may have more upside, but never underestimate hard work and determination. Thompson has both of those, plus he seems very mature, so right there the pick makes sense. Like I said, I'd rather have someone play for us who wants to play for us (Jason Thompson). Thompson also has great length, and playing alongside a legit 7 footer in Hawes could provide the Kings with a nice twin-tower set.

Moving on to Patrick Ewing Jr. and Sean Singletary. I really like the Singletary pick because, as short as he is, he has a large wingspan (6'5") and is a great on-ball defender. Ewing Jr. is someone who is a real team player and will contribute to the Kings down the road by being a decent defender coming of the bench.

All 3 players are seniors, which means that they should be ready for the league, and they will prove so come July 12th (Summer league starts)

At first I was little disappointed with our picks, but now I'm totally excited.

Re: Letting it sink in.

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 11:49 pm
by rpa
Randolph has BUST stamped on his forehead. Tell me again when it's a good idea to draft a player whose 3 biggest pros can be summed up as:
1) Young
2) Tall
3) Athletic

Couple that with what already looks like a not so great attitude and a bad work ethic and, well, el busto.

Re: Letting it sink in.

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 12:04 am
by mobiuseinz
rpa wrote:Randolph has BUST stamped on his forehead. Tell me again when it's a good idea to draft a player whose 3 biggest pros can be summed up as:
1) Young
2) Tall
3) Athletic

Couple that with what already looks like a not so great attitude and a bad work ethic and, well, el busto.


yeah, after I read that he doesn't wanna play for us, then I said f**k him. He may have upside, but that doesn't translate into heart and determination, which I feel the 3 players we drafted have. All 3 are happy to be in this position, and all 3 will give it their all. 2-4 years from now, we can be in a contending position.

G 2009 Draft/Singletary
G Martin/Salmons
F Artest?/Garcia
F Thompson/Williams
C Hawes/Miller/Moore

I mean, the core of Martin, Thompson, and Hawes is a really good one. Hawes will turn 20, Thompson will turn 22, and Martin will be 25, and if they continue to develop great, then we have a decent team.

Re: Letting it sink in.

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 12:24 am
by Smills91
I kinda feel the same way Mobi....however, I STILL woulda rather have taken a flyer on Bill Walker than Pat Ewing(who I think could have been picked up in FA).

Re: Letting it sink in.

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 12:36 am
by SacTown Kings
I am much more excited now than I was on draft day. I am hoping that Sheldon gets motivated and gets in shape now that we just drafted Thompson. I am still not giving up on Sheldon yet. He was great in college, no reason for him not to be a solid contributor at this level. Both Sheldon and Qunicy need to get it together or it's bye bye.

Re: Letting it sink in.

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 12:39 am
by Ballings7
I don't know like, anything about Singletary other than he's a scoring guard and small, so that is nice to know about his defense.

There is no reason why Shelden shouldn't lose some weight, and of course work on his game. I'll be disappointed if he doesn't do the former.

All about oppurtunity for Quincy. Hasn't been able to get a fair one yet for one reason or another.

I also have felt better and better about the draft after it was over (same goes for the Spurs, too).

Re: Letting it sink in.

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 1:12 am
by KF10
Im calling it now, Thompson will get ROY considerations/honorables. Assuming that Thompson plays significant minutes, of course. I feel that Thompson is that guy that we need in the post with Hawes.

Re: Letting it sink in.

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 6:22 am
by SacKingZZZ
I am really starting to come around on the Ewing Jr. selection, but I just hope measures are taken to open up time for these guys to actually hit the floor.

Re: Letting it sink in.

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 6:44 am
by RIPskaterdude
SacTown Kings wrote:I am much more excited now than I was on draft day. I am hoping that Sheldon gets motivated and gets in shape now that we just drafted Thompson. I am still not giving up on Sheldon yet. He was great in college, no reason for him not to be a solid contributor at this level. Both Sheldon and Qunicy need to get it together or it's bye bye.


To be fair to Sheldon, he's only had 1/2 a season with us (and hardly ANY playing time), it's hard to really give up on him after hardly seeing what he can do. Douby, on the other hand..... :evil:

Re: Letting it sink in.

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:17 am
by pillwenney
xx_skaterdude_xx wrote:
SacTown Kings wrote:I am much more excited now than I was on draft day. I am hoping that Sheldon gets motivated and gets in shape now that we just drafted Thompson. I am still not giving up on Sheldon yet. He was great in college, no reason for him not to be a solid contributor at this level. Both Sheldon and Qunicy need to get it together or it's bye bye.


To be fair to Sheldon, he's only had 1/2 a season with us (and hardly ANY playing time), it's hard to really give up on him after hardly seeing what he can do. Douby, on the other hand..... :evil:



Yup. Shelden hasn't impressed so far, but he hasn't had a fair shot. How he looks in training camp will be very telling. I think this season could really kind of maker or break his career, in some respects.

And with Quincy, it boils down the fact that he's just not a PG at all, and he's not going to find minutes at SG. Tough break, I guess. But we drafted him in the hopes that he would develop into a PG and he hasn't really. But maybe he turns that around this year. Otherwise, we should probably look to trade him or keep him if time will be opened up for him (but in order for that to happen, two of Salmons/Martin/Ron/Cisco need to go IMO).

Re: Letting it sink in.

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:20 am
by SactownHrtBrks8
You guys are tough on Quincy. Its only his third year. Its his make or break season but he showed flashes of being a big time scorer

As for Shelden he better come in in shape and ready to go, enough said, if he is not, he will not get any run and its his own damn fault

Re: Letting it sink in.

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:23 am
by KF10
Yeah, I give Douby another season or so to show himself that he could be a nice scorer in the NBA. IMO he could. He just need consistent PT and more opportunities.

Re: Letting it sink in.

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:28 am
by Ballings7
I think when he gets a couple seasons of consistent oppurtunity under him, that'll determine his fate in the NBA. Whether it's with us, or not.

Re: Letting it sink in.

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:07 am
by BMiller52
Ballings7 wrote:I don't know like, anything about Singletary other than he's a scoring guard and small, so that is nice to know about his defense.

There is no reason why Shelden shouldn't lose some weight, and of course work on his game. I'll be disappointed if he doesn't do the former.

All about oppurtunity for Quincy. Hasn't been able to get a fair one yet for one reason or another.

I also have felt better and better about the draft after it was over (same goes for the Spurs, too).



I know you wanted Chalmers man, and a lot of people love Chalmers and not Singletary, but to be honest Sean is probably a better player. And this is coming from a jayhawks fan. They both play good D, have long arms, and shoot 3s well. But Singletary's a better ball handler, he's a clutch player just like Chalmers, he's probably a little stronger(had 18 bench press reps at the combine), he's a better passer, he's quicker, and he's a better slasher. Mario's a bit bigger, and a bit better leaper.

I'm not sure why some writers are saying Singletary wasn't on other team's draft boards. He had really good numbers against tough competition, had to carry his team, and he has a lot of skills. He can score in a number of ways, getting to the rim, using floaters, he has a nice mid range J, he has NBA 3 range, and he plays good D because of a decent wingspan and nice strength. He's a pick I really liked.

Re: Letting it sink in.

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:12 pm
by VeeJay24
BMiller52 wrote:
Ballings7 wrote:I don't know like, anything about Singletary other than he's a scoring guard and small, so that is nice to know about his defense.

There is no reason why Shelden shouldn't lose some weight, and of course work on his game. I'll be disappointed if he doesn't do the former.

All about oppurtunity for Quincy. Hasn't been able to get a fair one yet for one reason or another.

I also have felt better and better about the draft after it was over (same goes for the Spurs, too).



I know you wanted Chalmers man, and a lot of people love Chalmers and not Singletary, but to be honest Sean is probably a better player. And this is coming from a jayhawks fan. They both play good D, have long arms, and shoot 3s well. But Singletary's a better ball handler, he's a clutch player just like Chalmers, he's probably a little stronger(had 18 bench press reps at the combine), he's a better passer, he's quicker, and he's a better slasher. Mario's a bit bigger, and a bit better leaper.

I'm not sure why some writers are saying Singletary wasn't on other team's draft boards. He had really good numbers against tough competition, had to carry his team, and he has a lot of skills. He can score in a number of ways, getting to the rim, using floaters, he has a nice mid range J, he has NBA 3 range, and he plays good D because of a decent wingspan and nice strength. He's a pick I really liked.


Yeah, I got to see both Singletary and Ewing a lot living in DC. Hell, I work for G-town so I know everything about Ewing. Singletary could be a steal, he is a very talented offensive player which is why I suspect Petrie got him. He can go for 40 on any given night and has scored against some big time guards in the ACC. So, no one should sell him short. To be honest, I just love Pat Jr. Many of us that work ag G-town often said how Pat Jr. was the backbone to the team and loved the way he developed. He will not be outworked by anybody. He developed his offensive game, it's not lights our or anything but it's miles better than when he arrived. He's ferocious defender and one his highlites is the last second block he made against WV I believe on the road. You have to see it. It was an amazing play. I keep hearing people say the KIngs could've got him as a fA, that's just not true. Trust me, he would've had many offers. Mostly because of his play, but his dad would've been a factor too. So I don't think he would've came on board with us as a FA. Me & the guys at work didn't know if he would get drafted but he definitely thought that he would make a team as a fA. That's why I think the KIngs need to move either Salmons or Artest or both. Make room for him!!!!

I was one of the first to jump on board with picking Jason Thomsson, if the Kings handle him right I think he could be the steal of the lottery. I keep hearing people say well they could've gotten him in the 20s. No hey couldn't, GS was ready to grab him at 14, the Wizards went after McGee so they damn sure would've considered Thompson. Most of the guys on the board were evenly rated so those teams were picking who they liked the most. The KIngs liked Thomson so they got him. They had their plan set, if one of the PGs dropped they would get them, if not they'd go after Thompson case closed.

Now, they just have to get creative and get a PG......do they go after one of the young ones in the league now or wait until next draft?

Re: Letting it sink in.

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:53 pm
by _SRV_
I suspected Petrie had his eye set on a PG and didn't want to steer from his plan, this draft was a big mess, like every 2nd or 3rd pick had some trade behind it, and it was weird watching opportunities slip one by one, the only explanation was that he wanted Singltary from the beginning and didn't care for what went on.
I think he didn't like anyone from the rest of the big men, and went for Ewing maybe to lure his father to come and help with coaching here, or he simply likes his defensive potential.

Re: Letting it sink in.

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 5:48 pm
by mobiuseinz
A lot of you will be surprised by Singletary. People say that he is a scoring PG, but he can pass and is creative. The only knock on him is that he did average a large amount of turnovers, but that was because he was basically the only guy on the team doing everything, yet he managed to involve his teammates, which says a lot (6.1 apg in the ACC).

Ewing Jr. will be a glue guy like Williamson or Divac was to the Kings. He seems like the type of person who is really friendly with the whole team and will bring them together once he becomes a veteran.

Thompson once again is really exciting me... the more I think about the possibilities with him and Hawes the more I think the future is not that bad. Hawes, while 19 will develop into a big post presence, and Thompson with his work ethic and determination could end up being a top 10 PF.

Re: Letting it sink in.

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 5:49 pm
by Ballings7
BMiller52 wrote:I know you wanted Chalmers man, and a lot of people love Chalmers and not Singletary, but to be honest Sean is probably a better player. And this is coming from a jayhawks fan. They both play good D, have long arms, and shoot 3s well. But Singletary's a better ball handler, he's a clutch player just like Chalmers, he's probably a little stronger(had 18 bench press reps at the combine), he's a better passer, he's quicker, and he's a better slasher. Mario's a bit bigger, and a bit better leaper.


Well, actually, I didn't necessarily want Chalmers for us because I didn't think we'd be able to get him. Unless we got a higher 2nd round pick, or late 1st rounder, it just wasn't a realistic situation.

I'm not disappointed we didn't get Chalmers, because it wasn't a credible expectation with how things were. What I've said is that I love the guys game, and like him the most of any of the relevant guards in the discussion.

I have to see more of Singletary, and didn't bother to read up on him at all before the draft. But I doubt I'll ever like Singletary more than Chalmers, because I've been a fan of the guy since 2006 (as well as a JayHawks fan).

Re: Letting it sink in.

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 6:21 pm
by mobiuseinz

Re: Letting it sink in.

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:30 pm
by _SRV_
mobiuseinz wrote:check out the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vEwcuo43UM


Great video, he had some lightning quick spin moves in there in some plays, great footwork in one play, and lethal jumper off the dribble.