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Post#1 » by BMiller52 » Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:50 am

From Sacramento and Miami and every surreal place in between comes the reality that the Kings and representatives of Jason Williams, if not Williams himself, will probably be talking within a few days to explore the possibility of his return to the Kings as a free agent.

The Kings are prohibited from contact with free agents and any public comments until the market opens tonight at 9 Pacific time. Aware that Williams is an exposed nerve of a topic around Sacramento, and that it could send the wrong message to Beno Udrih, the Kings are hesitant to discuss the scenario even off-the-record.

But it has a chance of happening. Not a great chance, for a few reasons that have nothing to do with the past, but an actual chance. It's real.

As always with J-Will and his first NBA home, there will be strong reaction from outside the organization on why it would be an exciting reunion and why it would be the worst of all possible moves for a team that just doesn't need the hassles. Take the emotion out of it and this is what you've got.


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Interesting IMO. He would be a decent PG for a year or however long we need him to be. Exciting, and he can pass and run the uptempo team Reggie supposedly wants to have. If we can't get a guy like Louis Williams, Lowry, Crittenton, Aaron Brooks, etc. He could also be a good mentor for a guy like Lowry or Brooks. He would certainly do a better job of getting Martin the ball than Beno did(did anyone else notice how Beno constantly missed Kev on the break, or when he was making a back-cut, or when he was ready to recieve an alley oop pass?).

Definitely not a long term solution, but I think his age lets you know he wouldn't be expected to be. Still I like the idea and it has to be a possibility.
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Post#2 » by pillwenney » Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:08 am

Yeah, he would definitely be a stopgap solution, and probably a cheap one. Something like a 2 year $5million deal could make some sense. My biggest problem would be his health. I'm fine with going with a "backup by committee" approach, but not if our starter is going to get injured easily.

My biggest problem with it would be having to listen to all of the annoying, dumb casual fans that would be like "all right! J-Will's back! Time to return to the good ol' days!"
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Post#3 » by BMiller52 » Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:09 am

mitchweber wrote:Yeah, he would definitely be a stopgap solution, and probably a cheap one. Something like a 2 year $5million deal could make some sense. My biggest problem would be his health. I'm fine with going with a "backup by committee" approach, but not if our starter is going to get injured easily.

My biggest problem with it would be having to listen to all of the annoying, dumb casual fans that would be like "all right! J-Will's back! Time to return to the good ol' days!"


LOL All those people would definitely wind up dissapointed :oops: . But yeah, the injuries could kinda mess us up.
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Post#4 » by _SRV_ » Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:45 am

I thought it was the other J-Will you were talking about, but yeah, he is the guy you want for a team in the Kings' situation, cheap, veteran, won't demand a lot of minutes (30 would be plenty with his physical status), if only he's less injury risky.
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Post#5 » by UKF » Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:41 pm

I read the same thing this morning.

I would love to bring him back, he was one of my favorite Kings. I think it would be a great fit. He is a veteran PG that still can play. My favorite part of his game was how he passed, that is probably by him but I know it would bring more people into Arco and I know the Maloofs would be a fan of that. He could show Sean or another PG that we bring in in next years draft. We do need a PG and J-Will would be a great guy to get.
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Post#6 » by Dustin5566 » Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:12 pm

something tells me if he comes back he would unleash some of his old tricks.
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Post#7 » by SacTown Kings » Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:19 pm

^^ Hopefully becasuse he became really boring to watch in Miami. It didn't even look like he was having fun or wanted to be there half the time.
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Post#8 » by UKF » Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:20 pm

Dustin5566 wrote:something tells me if he comes back he would unleash some of his old tricks.


Sounds good to me.
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Post#9 » by Ballings7 » Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:27 pm

STK wrote:^^ Hopefully becasuse he became really boring to watch in Miami. It didn't even look like he was having fun or wanted to be there half the time.


I didn't think he was that boring, but rightfully so his game was more controlled. I liked seeing him succeed in the role he played with Miami.

He was a (key) role-player on a half-court oriented contending team... all about sacrifice, and he picked his spots and made his contributions. Obviously he had to tone his game down because of who else was on the team, what kind of style the team played, and what was at stake.

He played on a very good team, and won a ring - I'd say he was happy more of the time than not, and ultimately loved his experience in Miami.
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Post#10 » by sacking101 » Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:05 pm

A cheap JWill would be perfect. Beno and his agent sort of piss me off saying that it would be a bargain to get him for the full MLE. So really JWill would mean instead of Beno right?
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Post#11 » by Cruel_Ruin » Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:28 pm

You have to be kidding me. Of all the cheap young PGs we could take, we go after the 32 year old guy with shot knees?
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Post#12 » by pillwenney » Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:34 pm

Cruel_Ruin wrote:You have to be kidding me. Of all the cheap young PGs we could take, we go after the 32 year old guy with shot knees?



Who cares? If none of the young guys are going to be our solution for the future, then why not take a guy who will fill in as a veteran, knowing how to run a team? Especially since we wouldn't have to sign him to a long-term deal.
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Post#13 » by Wolfay » Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:36 pm

I wouldn't mind bringing him back, the dude made some INSANE passes in his early years and the time he made John Stockton look silly is still an awesome memory fresh in my mind. He's not so flashy anymore, but Kevin Martin could benefit from his passing, especially in the fast break or making a cut to the basket without the ball.
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Post#14 » by Cruel_Ruin » Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:59 pm

mitchweber wrote:
Cruel_Ruin wrote:You have to be kidding me. Of all the cheap young PGs we could take, we go after the 32 year old guy with shot knees?



Who cares? If none of the young guys are going to be our solution for the future, then why not take a guy who will fill in as a veteran, knowing how to run a team? Especially since we wouldn't have to sign him to a long-term deal.


I can name 5 young PGs out on the open market off the top of my head that I'd rather sign than Jason Williams. He has no future with the team, guarunteed. If we're truly looking for a stopgap for the position, the smart thing to do would be to take a flier on a young guy that we MIGHT be able to use in the future.
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Post#15 » by Cruel_Ruin » Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:00 pm

Wolfay wrote:I wouldn't mind bringing him back, the dude made some INSANE passes in his early years and the time he made John Stockton look silly is still an awesome memory fresh in my mind. He's not so flashy anymore, but Kevin Martin could benefit from his passing, especially in the fast break or making a cut to the basket without the ball.


That Jason Williams is gone, he was killed by Hubie Brown.
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Post#16 » by KingInExile » Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:07 pm

Cruel_Ruin wrote:
mitchweber wrote:
Cruel_Ruin wrote:You have to be kidding me. Of all the cheap young PGs we could take, we go after the 32 year old guy with shot knees?



Who cares? If none of the young guys are going to be our solution for the future, then why not take a guy who will fill in as a veteran, knowing how to run a team? Especially since we wouldn't have to sign him to a long-term deal.


I can name 5 young PGs out on the open market off the top of my head that I'd rather sign than Jason Williams. He has no future with the team, guarunteed. If we're truly looking for a stopgap for the position, the smart thing to do would be to take a flier on a young guy that we MIGHT be able to use in the future.

The thing J-Will has that those young rookies don't is experience that he can pass on to Singletary and Douby. If the move is a stopgap measure, then it is clearly better to go with an experienced guy who can pass on his knowledge over inexperienced rentals.
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Post#17 » by KF10 » Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:13 pm

Yeah, like Ballings said, JW was more stable in his style of game due to situation he was in. Which was winning a title during Miami's run. But yeah, I would welcome JW with open arms. He is a veteran that knows how to run a team properly. Better than our emergency PGs (Garcia,Salmons,Douby,Singletary). He is a good stop gap fix until we get out young long term PG. JW, obviously, have history with us. He was our exciting PG that mirages to Pistol Pete at one time. His erractic/unstable (Well, to some extent) style of game, brought the crowd off its seat MANY times. His behind the back passes, no looks, flips, underhand, overhead, and etc passes were a great pleasure to see. I will not be surprise if he ends his career at Sacramento. Again, I would welcome JW with open arms. :D
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Post#18 » by Cruel_Ruin » Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:17 pm

KingInExile wrote:The thing J-Will has that those young rookies don't is experience that he can pass on to Singletary and Douby. If the move is a stopgap measure, then it is clearly better to go with an experienced guy who can pass on his knowledge over inexperienced rentals.


The PG position isn't taught, it's learned through trial and error. Its something you get with experience. Not to mention that JWill's knees are completely shaky, meaning it could be money down the drain. There are much, much better stopgap options elsewhere.
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Post#19 » by pillwenney » Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:37 pm

Cruel_Ruin wrote:
mitchweber wrote:
Cruel_Ruin wrote:You have to be kidding me. Of all the cheap young PGs we could take, we go after the 32 year old guy with shot knees?



Who cares? If none of the young guys are going to be our solution for the future, then why not take a guy who will fill in as a veteran, knowing how to run a team? Especially since we wouldn't have to sign him to a long-term deal.


I can name 5 young PGs out on the open market off the top of my head that I'd rather sign than Jason Williams. He has no future with the team, guarunteed. If we're truly looking for a stopgap for the position, the smart thing to do would be to take a flier on a young guy that we MIGHT be able to use in the future.



Of course he has no future--that's not what this is about. This is about getting somebody that can play the position now that will help keep this team's head above water. I'll trust J-Will with that over guys like Livingston or Telfair.
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Post#20 » by Ballings7 » Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:00 pm

I'd prefer to go after others (Hinrich, Duhon, Crittenton, Lowry, Watson) - but wouldn't mind Williams back.
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