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1) Showcase Miller/Moore for the next month.
2) Turn Miller into Joakim Noah
3) Turn Salmons into an expiring/pick and/or prospect preferably Rasual Butler/Julian Wright and maybe another 1st?
4) Turn Moore into an expiring and the rights to Tiago Splitter

Kings new roster heading into the summer of 2010:

C: Spencer Hawes, Joakim Noah, 2010 pick
PF: Jason Thompson, Tiago Splitter
SF: Julian Wright, Donte Greene, 2009 Hou pick
SG: Kevin Martin, Francisco Garcia
PG: 2009 lotto draft pick, Beno Udrih

I can go forward with that roster in a couple year, I think it'd be a really REALLY good roster to have.

Smills91 wrote:1) Showcase Miller/Moore for the next month.
2) Turn Miller into Joakim Noah
3) Turn Salmons into an expiring/pick and/or prospect preferably Rasual Butler/Julian Wright and maybe another 1st?
4) Turn Moore into an expiring and the rights to Tiago Splitter

Kings new roster heading into the summer of 2010:

C: Spencer Hawes, Joakim Noah, 2010 pick
PF: Jason Thompson, Tiago Splitter
SF: Julian Wright, Donte Greene, 2009 Hou pick
SG: Kevin Martin, Francisco Garcia
PG: 2009 lotto draft pick, Beno Udrih

I can go forward with that roster in a couple year, I think it'd be a really REALLY good roster to have.

Woops, missed the realism train!

I'd also like to turn my Ford Focus into a brand new Ferrari Enzo, but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

Here's what I want to see:

1) Fire Reggie already. Just wasting time and creating an uncomfortable situation otherwise. Everyone knows it's just a matter of time, if it isn't then somebody besides the players come out and show some support for the man! Petrie! Maloofs! That means you.

2) Screw showcasing Mikki Moore, get him to a contender for an expiring or trade exception if possible. Unfortunately it's a numbers game and I don't see Hawes or Thompson on the move anytime soon.

3) Showcase Brad Miller and John Salmons for the next month or so. Don't need to really move either one, but put it out there that they're available if the price is right. If we think we have a shot at free agency next year and the value for a Miller/Salmons package isn't up to par go for expirings. If not? No biggie.

4) Possibly move Bobby Jackson at the deadline. He's another guy that doesn't need to be here that extra 2 months, if a trade works great, if not, cut him.

5) Get Shelden Williams some minutes, lets see if he has a future in Sac.

6) Scout, scout, scout. Prep for the draft.

7) Get your list of possible replacement coaches for next year ready.

Noah's definitely not just a defender/rebounder/hustler, btw, he's a skilled passer and handler for a big guy.

Smills91 wrote:4) Turn Moore into an expiring and the rights to Tiago Splitter

Doesn't matter that I go for the Spurs as well, but that one isn't realistic

Everything else I don't dispute

No way we will cut/trade Bobby Jackson...he'll most likely retire and end up as an assistant coach in Sacramento next year. MAYBE we could trade him (won't happen anyways), but no way would we disrespect him and cut him from the team.

I don't get this constant desire to trade Salmons. I for one am someone that would like to see us play our youth more, to a point. Both Hawes/Thompson deserve the minutes their getting - but Greene, not so much.

Salmons isn't so old as to be a Brad Miller get him-out-of-here-for-youths-sake type. He's got a very very good contract for his performance, is proabably our most productive defender and very good 3rd option when we find our star.

And I certainly don't think we should trade him for Julian Wright and the craptastic Hornets pick. Julian Wright is struggling for minutes on a team that loves SG/SF combos. He's shown little of those potentials we ravished on last year. If we're trading Salmons, I expect a much brighter looking youngster and preferably a better pick from a team not still in the legit top 5 in the league.

xx_skaterdude_xx wrote:No way we will cut/trade Bobby Jackson...he'll most likely retire and end up as an assistant coach in Sacramento next year. MAYBE we could trade him (won't happen anyways), but no way would we disrespect him and cut him from the team.

It's in no way meant to disrespect him, it's so he can go to a contender. He clearly still wants to play and even said at the beginning of the season he sees himself playing a few more years after this one. Cut him, let him go to Boston, or maybe even LA (I know, I know! ), but let the man go for a ring. Maybe if he gets it he'll decide to retire and then the Maloofs can hire him as an assistant. He doesn't look to be wanting to go out peacefully into the sunset, already complaining about minutes and such, and if the end of the Nuggets game wasn't a statement I don't know what is.

Lightning Strike wrote:I don't get this constant desire to trade Salmons. I for one am someone that would like to see us play our youth more, to a point. Both Hawes/Thompson deserve the minutes their getting - but Greene, not so much.

Salmons isn't so old as to be a Brad Miller get him-out-of-here-for-youths-sake type. He's got a very very good contract for his performance, is proabably our most productive defender and very good 3rd option when we find our star.

And I certainly don't think we should trade him for Julian Wright and the craptastic Hornets pick. Julian Wright is struggling for minutes on a team that loves SG/SF combos. He's shown little of those potentials we ravished on last year. If we're trading Salmons, I expect a much brighter looking youngster and preferably a better pick from a team not still in the legit top 5 in the league.

True, but I still think that we need more of a spot shooting, legit and consistent 3 point threat at the 3. That and maybe a bit more rebounding. His trade value and it's possibilities to strengthen us in other areas is probably more beneficial to us than keeping him as a centerpiece.

Actually, more than anything, I think that our future SF will depend on our future PG. John may be a great fit, but I think we need to know who the PG will be first.

SacKingZZZ wrote:

Lightning Strike wrote:I don't get this constant desire to trade Salmons. I for one am someone that would like to see us play our youth more, to a point. Both Hawes/Thompson deserve the minutes their getting - but Greene, not so much.

Salmons isn't so old as to be a Brad Miller get him-out-of-here-for-youths-sake type. He's got a very very good contract for his performance, is proabably our most productive defender and very good 3rd option when we find our star.

And I certainly don't think we should trade him for Julian Wright and the craptastic Hornets pick. Julian Wright is struggling for minutes on a team that loves SG/SF combos. He's shown little of those potentials we ravished on last year. If we're trading Salmons, I expect a much brighter looking youngster and preferably a better pick from a team not still in the legit top 5 in the league.

True, but I still think that we need more of a spot shooting, legit and consistent 3 point threat at the 3. That and maybe a bit more rebounding. His trade value and it's possibilities to strengthen us in other areas is probably more beneficial to us than keeping him as a centerpiece.

Sounds like you are talking about Fransisco Garcia Certainly not talking about julian Wright XD

Rebuilding DOESN'T mean we have to ditch all our veterians. Teams that have rebuilded sucessfully don't trade EVERY person with 5 or more years in the league for 22-23 year olds with "a glimmer of potential" (because thats all Wright has now, honestly.) I get trading Salmons IF the right young peice is offered, but considering what I've seen Kings fans proposing... just because they are young doesn't mean it makes sense.

We can rebuild while keeping a 28 year old on the team, especially one with a great contract like John. If the right deal comes along, great, but everyone seems so eager to turn him in for youth and get it over with. He's not like Brad with Spencer ready to take his spot, so we shouldn't be so eager.

I think we need to trade or plan to draft a Mike Bibby or Chauncey Billups like assassin guard. Beno is solid, but I don't see him killing teams. If we had Kobe or Duncan, Beno would be a legit starter, but with no killer instinct on this squad it is really frustrating. Maybe JT will develop into a killer but he is not getting clutch time, he did get a couple game winners in summer league but has not gotten crunch minutes since Miller came back. A go to guy PG would be the only thing I would trade Salmons/Miller for. So it would be a gamble whether that person would work, Jason Williams did not work out as a clutch guy so we traded him for Bibby. Since the Griz had Michael Dickerson starting at SG and I guess they thought Dickerson and Bibby couldn't play together. This was another great Petrie trade. We need a killer.

cdt3 wrote: I think we need to trade or plan to draft a Mike Bibby or Chauncey Billups like assassin guard. Beno is solid, but I don't see him killing teams. If we had Kobe or Duncan, Beno would be a legit starter, but with no killer instinct on this squad it is really frustrating. Maybe JT will develop into a killer but he is not getting clutch time, he did get a couple game winners in summer league but has not gotten crunch minutes since Miller came back. A go to guy PG would be the only thing I would trade Salmons/Miller for. So it would be a gamble whether that person would work, Jason Williams did not work out as a clutch guy so we traded him for Bibby. Since the Griz had Michael Dickerson starting at SG and I guess they thought Dickerson and Bibby couldn't play together. This was another great Petrie trade. We need a killer.

That's right. We need to move BRAD/BENO or BRAD/JOHN quickly, and get a"killer" or a "lil killer"

1. Trade Miller at the deadline for expirings/pick/whatever. I love the guy and would love to see him finish his career with a contending team.
2. Trade Moore for whatever you can get....maybe even a third round pick. hahaha. For sure stop playing him. Play Jason Thompson more!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The guy has an awesome future.....but he will never develop from the bench.
3. Try as hard as possible to sign Boozer in offseason. If we cant get Boozer, hope that we get the #1 pick and get Blake Griffin. But if we do get Boozer then........
4. Use our lottery pick to get Ty Lawson. Trade Beno if we can get Lawson. Otherwise keep him and hope he turns into something more consistent.

C-Hawes
PF-Boozer
SF-Salmons
SG-Martin
PG-Lawson

BN-Thompson
BN-Garcia
BN-Bobby Brown
BN-Greene

OR.......

C-Hawes
PF-Griffin
SF-Salmons
SG-Martin
PG-Beno

BN-Thompson
BN-Garcia
BN-Bobby Brown
BN-Greene

Sheldon, Quincy, Moore, Thomas, need to all be let go, traded, whatever. fill the roster with some street ballers or maybe bring in some Monarchs. hahaha that is funny...but I am almost serious.

5. Oh, and fire Reggie Theus. We could be over .500 right now if the guy knew how to put the right players on the floor, which in my opnion is the coaches biggest responsibility.

king125 wrote:5. Oh, and fire Reggie Theus. We could be over .500 right now if the guy knew how to put the right players on the floor, which in my opnion is the coaches biggest responsibility.

No offense intended, but if Red Auerbach was coaching this team the Kings would not be over .500

Now I do believe that if Beno had been healthly for training camp, If Cisco had not got injured, if KMart had not got injured and if Brad had not been suspended for the first 5 games for smoking hippie lettuce the Kings record would be much better, maybe close to .500.

KB

Lightning Strike wrote:

Sounds like you are talking about Fransisco Garcia Certainly not talking about julian Wright XD

Rebuilding DOESN'T mean we have to ditch all our veterians. Teams that have rebuilded sucessfully don't trade EVERY person with 5 or more years in the league for 22-23 year olds with "a glimmer of potential" (because thats all Wright has now, honestly.) I get trading Salmons IF the right young peice is offered, but considering what I've seen Kings fans proposing... just because they are young doesn't mean it makes sense.

No they don't, but they trade the ones that have a high value while they can. The truth is John probably isn't going to be the player they put next to Kevin long term. Maybe he could be our SG long term, move Kevin maybe? I don't know, the only thing is if we change things up and John isn't playing, or given the same role a year from now you lose out on being able to move him for as valuable a package. John isn't the type of player I see the Kings picturing as a piece they'll build around for the next 5 years.

John being traded shouldn't be a priority however. If a good package comes along take it. If not it isn't the end of the world.

We can rebuild while keeping a 28 year old on the team, especially one with a great contract like John. If the right deal comes along, great, but everyone seems so eager to turn him in for youth and get it over with. He's not like Brad with Spencer ready to take his spot, so we shouldn't be so eager.[/quote]

Smills91 wrote:1) Showcase Miller/Moore for the next month.
2) Turn Miller into Joakim Noah
3) Turn Salmons into an expiring/pick and/or prospect preferably Rasual Butler/Julian Wright and maybe another 1st?
4) Turn Moore into an expiring and the rights to Tiago Splitter

Kings new roster heading into the summer of 2010:

C: Spencer Hawes, Joakim Noah, 2010 pick
PF: Jason Thompson, Tiago Splitter
SF: Julian Wright, Donte Greene, 2009 Hou pick
SG: Kevin Martin, Francisco Garcia
PG: 2009 lotto draft pick, Beno Udrih

I can go forward with that roster in a couple year, I think it'd be a really REALLY good roster to have.

I doubt the Bull's do 2.
I doubt the Spurs do 4
The Kings should not do 3.

I would like Noah on the Kings, along with Splitter. But I don't think trading Miller and Moore can bring them here:(

If I was Petrie I would try to trade Moore and Douby for any guy that could consistently hit a spot up 3 in a game. A Jon Barry type player would be great on this team.

I would try to trade Miller and ? for Noah, Splitter or Luis Scola.

Gosh, please don't trade Salmons!!! Without Salmons the Kings might be 1 and 20

Seriously, Salmons is the Kings best defender and the second best offensive threat. Top offensive threat with Martin out.

KB